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[email protected] January 15th, 2008 12:02 AM

The other adult beverage.....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:49:25 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

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wrote:

a lot of Viet restaurants and the interesting part is that IME, they
exclusively use Creole coffee and chicory (typically CDM/Cafe Du Monde -
the brand of the primary beignet place in the French Quarter) in their
iced coffees.

presumably the same influence - French - but in their case spreading
eastwards, rather than westwards?


I think the primary New Orleans influences are European and African, but
IAC, I think the Viet use of Creole-style coffee is more a simple matter
of taste preference. Chicory coffee (Creole-style) is common down here
and many cultures drink it, so the fact that they found it is hardly
special. What I find interesting is that they took to it almost
completely - in fact, I've never had iced coffee in a Viet establishment
or home anywhere from Texas to Florida that wasn't made with
Creole-style chicory coffee, yet Viet coffee (IOW, coffee from and/or
sold in Viet Nam) isn't really blended with chicory or much like the
Creole coffee.

TC,
R

Lazarus


Lazarus Cooke January 15th, 2008 12:22 AM

The other adult beverage.....
 
In article ,
wrote:

s.

presumably the same influence - French - but in their case spreading
eastwards, rather than westwards?


I think the primary New Orleans influences are European and African, but
IAC, I think the Viet use of Creole-style coffee is more a simple matter
of taste preference. Chicory coffee (Creole-style) is common down here
and many cultures drink it, so the fact that they found it is hardly
special. What I find interesting is that they took to it almost
completely - in fact, I've never had iced coffee in a Viet establishment
or home anywhere from Texas to Florida that wasn't made with
Creole-style chicory coffee, yet Viet coffee (IOW, coffee from and/or
sold in Viet Nam) isn't really blended with chicory or much like the
Creole coffee.


Hmm, I' m afraid you're almost certainly right.

But I did like the notion of French coffee, mixed with chicory,
spreading westwards through Senagal and the slave states and then
across the Atlantic, and also spreading eastwards, with the foreign
legion to Indo-china, and finally meeting itself in the opposite
direction, right around the globe, through a series of bizarre
accidents, in New Orleans.........

Hey ho

Lazarus

[email protected] January 15th, 2008 12:58 AM

The other adult beverage.....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:22:23 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

s.

presumably the same influence - French - but in their case spreading
eastwards, rather than westwards?


I think the primary New Orleans influences are European and African, but
IAC, I think the Viet use of Creole-style coffee is more a simple matter
of taste preference. Chicory coffee (Creole-style) is common down here
and many cultures drink it, so the fact that they found it is hardly
special. What I find interesting is that they took to it almost
completely - in fact, I've never had iced coffee in a Viet establishment
or home anywhere from Texas to Florida that wasn't made with
Creole-style chicory coffee, yet Viet coffee (IOW, coffee from and/or
sold in Viet Nam) isn't really blended with chicory or much like the
Creole coffee.


Hmm, I' m afraid you're almost certainly right.

But I did like the notion of French coffee, mixed with chicory,
spreading westwards through Senagal and the slave states and then
across the Atlantic, and also spreading eastwards, with the foreign
legion to Indo-china, and finally meeting itself in the opposite
direction, right around the globe, through a series of bizarre
accidents, in New Orleans.........


Well, if it makes you feel better (and restores your sense of romantic
Kiplingesque culinary adventures), they did bring their interpretation
of "French bread" with them, and it is remarkably similar to New
Orleans-style "French bread" - a _really_ airy, lightweight (a 3-foot/1
meter loaf is about 8 oz.), crispy-crust baguette-shaped type of thing.
TC,
R

Hey ho

Lazarus


Janice January 15th, 2008 09:57 PM

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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Hm.....

Would that be "authentic" "Real Creole®" coffee made by a mythical person
modifying a "recipe" found on the side of a condensed milk can?

Wolfgang
who, if so, would like his served with a slice of "Real Creole®" "authentic"
cheesecake. :)


Idiot

Janice January 15th, 2008 09:58 PM

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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:


"BJ Conner" wrote in message
...
On Jan 14, 8:53 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Hm.....

Would that be "authentic" "Real Creole®" coffee made by a mythical person
modifying a "recipe" found on the side of a condensed milk can?

Wolfgang
who, if so, would like his served with a slice of "Real Creole®"
"authentic"
cheesecake. :)- Hide quoted text -

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You need to get this book -it's obvious you don't know **** from wild
honey about cooking or food.

True, true. However, I'm about 20 pages from finishing "Robbing the Bees: A
Biography of Honey--The Sweet Liquid Gold that Seduced the World" by Holley
Bishop, so I'm pretty much up to speed on the domestic stuff. :)

http://www.amazon.com/Bull-Authentic...s/dp/088001390
7

The creols didn't invent cheesecake the Belgians did.

Probably, it was Leopold himself. Used all the hands he had cut off the
Congolese instead of cream cheese, would be my guess. Well, that would
explain dicklet's devotion, anyway.

In fact they invented everything.

They could well have stopped before they got around to the Irish. Would
have saved the whole world a lot of embarassment.

All German, French, Creole and other reciepies
are just *******ations of original Belgian recipies.

Creoles, unlike the rest of the world (if we are to give credence to an
unimpeachable authority.....um......excuse me, "THE" unimpeachable
authority), don't use recipes to cook the few simple things that they have
cooked every day of their lives, mirabile dictu!

I don't have my copy handy but I'll bet it has the real scoop on
roasting coffee as well

Herter's untimely death is generally viewed as a great blow to humanity.
Big deal, sez I, we got Usenet.....and dicklet!

Wolfgang
anybody got a good recipe for authentic "Real Creole®" gefilte fish?


Asswipe

Janice January 15th, 2008 10:03 PM

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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:


You are fast acquiring a reputation here. Something to bask in at long
last, eh? :)

Wolfgang


Sort of like your reputation for insulting people with terse one word
insults like "idiot"? Too bad your pea brain cant see the similarity.
I wish I had a wolfgang bot that could spew your very own insults back
to you that infests this group

Janice January 15th, 2008 10:04 PM

The other adult beverage.....
 
In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Fagboy


I think that if you had any clear idea of how this is affecting me, you'd
stop. :(

Wolfgang


That is funny, jackhole. Given how you have treated thousands of people
with your one word insults for years we all know it not to be true.

Janice January 15th, 2008 10:13 PM

The other adult beverage.....
 
In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Wolfgang


Idiot.


What, you think I should do my roasting elsewhere? Where would you suggest?

Wolfgang


I think you should have the above pea sized brain to see my childish
insults are a waste, and realize you do the same thing. So yes, you
should STOP your roasting of OTHERS.

Janice January 15th, 2008 10:15 PM

The other adult beverage.....
 
In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Well, there now, you've spent an entire day or two boning up on your writing
skills. Don't you feel better for having expended the time and effort in a
worthy and beneficial pursuit?

Wolfgang


Does it make you feel better with your one line posts calling people
"idiots"? Get a mirror.

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] January 15th, 2008 10:46 PM

The other adult beverage.....
 
Janice wrote:
I think you should have the above pea sized brain to see my childish
insults are a waste, and realize you do the same thing. So yes, you
should STOP your roasting of OTHERS.


At least Little Wolfie has the stones to post his nastiness
under his own name. So long as you post anonymously you will
never, nor should you ever, be taken seriously. Besides which
Little Wolfie is easily ignored and ignoring him is far better
than emulating him, especially when you attempt to emulate him
anonymously.

In short, **** off and die you anonymous piece of ****.

--
Ken Fortenberry - we really need a new bouncer around here


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