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Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning
deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not
remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime
I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the
guy in the back.

*Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file.


Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher
(professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder
reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite
dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same
extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he
folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to
drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe..
Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the
surface.

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Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning
deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not
remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime
I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the
guy in the back.

*Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file.


Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher
(professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder
reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite
dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same
extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he
folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to
drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe..
Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the
surface.

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http://pedsccm.wustl.edu/all-net/eng...tect/nr-dn.htm

In human adults and animals, immersion in icy water results in involuntary
reflex hyperventilation and a decreased breath holding ability to less than
10 seconds

http://www.telmedpak.com/homes.asp?a=first_aid&b=nd
Drowning can happen in many ways, but all deaths from drowning are due to
lack of oxygen (asphyxiation). It is not important whether or not the lungs
fill up with water, or whether there is salt water or fresh water. What
matters, is that how much oxygen continues to reach the victim's brain.

http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak/nck_safety_p4.htm

Cold water can kill in three ways. The canoeist probably suffered cold shock
resulting in ineffective breathing, rapid onset of panic, confusion, and
inneffective swimming, struggling briefly at the surface and then sinking.
The marines may have managed the initial cold shock, but the cold water
rendered their extremities neuromuscularly dysfunctional within several
minutes, causing death by drowning. The fishermen were a more classic case
of severe hypothermia, with body chemistry dysfunction causing
cardiovascular collapse and death.

*** Seems to me that lack of oxygen, coupled with muscle fatigue is the
leading causes... not ingesting water. Of course, after you're under water,
I guess you will ingest "many litres"... but by then, it's already too late.


"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most
drowning
deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not
remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime
I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with
the
guy in the back.

*Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file.


Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher
(professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a
shudder
reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite
dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the
same
extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he
folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to
drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe..
Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the
surface.

floater coat
 

http://pedsccm.wustl.edu/all-net/eng...tect/nr-dn.htm

In human adults and animals, immersion in icy water results in involuntary
reflex hyperventilation and a decreased breath holding ability to less than
10 seconds

http://www.telmedpak.com/homes.asp?a=first_aid&b=nd
Drowning can happen in many ways, but all deaths from drowning are due to
lack of oxygen (asphyxiation). It is not important whether or not the lungs
fill up with water, or whether there is salt water or fresh water. What
matters, is that how much oxygen continues to reach the victim's brain.

http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak/nck_safety_p4.htm

Cold water can kill in three ways. The canoeist probably suffered cold shock
resulting in ineffective breathing, rapid onset of panic, confusion, and
inneffective swimming, struggling briefly at the surface and then sinking.
The marines may have managed the initial cold shock, but the cold water
rendered their extremities neuromuscularly dysfunctional within several
minutes, causing death by drowning. The fishermen were a more classic case
of severe hypothermia, with body chemistry dysfunction causing
cardiovascular collapse and death.

*** Seems to me that lack of oxygen, coupled with muscle fatigue is the
leading causes... not ingesting water. Of course, after you're under water,
I guess you will ingest "many litres"... but by then, it's already too late.


"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most
drowning
deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not
remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime
I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with
the
guy in the back.

*Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file.


Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher
(professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a
shudder
reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite
dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the
same
extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he
folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to
drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe..
Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the
surface.

floater coat
 

Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I
other words you are a goner so wear a pfd.

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Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I
other words you are a goner so wear a pfd.

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How much water is in your stomach (Ingesting) has nothing to do with it. In
other words, you are a goober no matter what you're wearing.

BTW: I received an e-mail the other day that I should have thought about
earlier. There was some pretty good quotes, and my favorite was...
"Never argue with an idiot. It's hard for the people watching to figure out
which one is the idiot".

Needless to say... plonk!


"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a
dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a
given. I
other words you are a goner so wear a pfd.

floater coat
 

How much water is in your stomach (Ingesting) has nothing to do with it. In
other words, you are a goober no matter what you're wearing.

BTW: I received an e-mail the other day that I should have thought about
earlier. There was some pretty good quotes, and my favorite was...
"Never argue with an idiot. It's hard for the people watching to figure out
which one is the idiot".

Needless to say... plonk!


"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a
dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a
given. I
other words you are a goner so wear a pfd.

floater coat
 

The purpose of my posting was to get people to wear their pfd's. This is
especially so when the water is cold. Maybe in TN the water isn't that cold .
Here on some days it is too cold to swim and it is still summertime..

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The purpose of my posting was to get people to wear their pfd's. This is
especially so when the water is cold. Maybe in TN the water isn't that cold .
Here on some days it is too cold to swim and it is still summertime..