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Big Dale August 31st, 2004 09:54 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 

Just for fun I dug out a large (#10) parachute Adams that I had tied
up more-or-less as a joke after having such good luck with #16 para
Adams on my trip to Canuckistan.

On the second drift I got a hit from a small sunfish, and I
continued getting action on almost every cast (well, on every good
drift, anyway) for the next 15-20 minutes. The fly took sunfish and
small Guadalupe bass.

I still can't figure out what they took the Adams for. The only
bugs in the air were some dragon and damselflies, but they were off in
color and size, and the fish weren't rising to them that I could see. I
don't know if the Adams might resemble an emerger or if it just looked
like some sort of generic food to them. Whatever it was, it saved me
from a fishless day on the water.

So has anyone else had luck with the Adams on both warm and
coldwater species?


Chuck Vance (who is wondering if a #2/0 Adams would work for
sal****er fish ;-)



I had a good friend who fished the Perch-Off at the Austin Angler for many
years and was damn near disqualified AGAIN a few years ago when he hit a hex
hatch out near the school on Town Lake and he caught one of those trash fish
(largemouth bass) on a size 4 adams. It was close to a perfect match for the
bugs on the water. This was at about daybreak that morning.

Big Dale

Wayne Harrison August 31st, 2004 11:03 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 

"Conan the Librarian" wrote

I still can't figure out what they took the Adams for. The only
bugs in the air were some dragon and damselflies, but they were off in
color and size, and the fish weren't rising to them that I could see. I
don't know if the Adams might resemble an emerger or if it just looked
like some sort of generic food to them. Whatever it was, it saved me
from a fishless day on the water.

So has anyone else had luck with the Adams on both warm and
coldwater species?


well, this is not a precise response to your query, but it evidences a
similar phenomenon. i went up to brevard, nc, in the blue ridge, to pick up
my son a couple years ago, where he was visiting a family friend. he had
found a little pond, and had been spin fishing it for bass. he had caught a
few 10-14 inchers during his stay. it was like mid-august, and hot. he
wanted to go fishing one more time before we returned home, so i grabbed the
only gear i had in the jeep--a 4wt with a 16 light cahill on a 5x
tippet--figuring to just keep him company, or maybe grab a bream or two.
so i'm standing on a dock, tossing a few perfunctory casts in a half
circle, and the damn cahill disappears in what appeared to be the surface
disturbance one might expect from the entry of a five pound piece of granite
into the pond. about a three pound largemouth. fooled around with him for
about ten minutes. the cahill looked ludicrous in his lips.
no bugs of any sort in the air. no possible way there had ever been a
mayfly hatch in that water.
anthony, my boy, wandered up as i released the bass; he just shook his
head and said, with an air of resignation, "random, dad".

yfitons
wayno



Wayne Harrison August 31st, 2004 11:03 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 

"Conan the Librarian" wrote

I still can't figure out what they took the Adams for. The only
bugs in the air were some dragon and damselflies, but they were off in
color and size, and the fish weren't rising to them that I could see. I
don't know if the Adams might resemble an emerger or if it just looked
like some sort of generic food to them. Whatever it was, it saved me
from a fishless day on the water.

So has anyone else had luck with the Adams on both warm and
coldwater species?


well, this is not a precise response to your query, but it evidences a
similar phenomenon. i went up to brevard, nc, in the blue ridge, to pick up
my son a couple years ago, where he was visiting a family friend. he had
found a little pond, and had been spin fishing it for bass. he had caught a
few 10-14 inchers during his stay. it was like mid-august, and hot. he
wanted to go fishing one more time before we returned home, so i grabbed the
only gear i had in the jeep--a 4wt with a 16 light cahill on a 5x
tippet--figuring to just keep him company, or maybe grab a bream or two.
so i'm standing on a dock, tossing a few perfunctory casts in a half
circle, and the damn cahill disappears in what appeared to be the surface
disturbance one might expect from the entry of a five pound piece of granite
into the pond. about a three pound largemouth. fooled around with him for
about ten minutes. the cahill looked ludicrous in his lips.
no bugs of any sort in the air. no possible way there had ever been a
mayfly hatch in that water.
anthony, my boy, wandered up as i released the bass; he just shook his
head and said, with an air of resignation, "random, dad".

yfitons
wayno



Conan The Librarian September 1st, 2004 03:25 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
ospam (Big Dale) wrote in message ...

I had a good friend who fished the Perch-Off at the Austin Angler for many
years and was damn near disqualified AGAIN a few years ago when he hit a hex
hatch out near the school on Town Lake and he caught one of those trash fish
(largemouth bass) on a size 4 adams. It was close to a perfect match for the
bugs on the water. This was at about daybreak that morning.


Heh. Don't you *hate* when that happens. :-)

I think I know the area you're talking about on Town Lake. I used
to fish off one of the points just past the school parking lot. If
the water level was down, I could walk right out to a nice dropoff and
usually pick up a few decent bass.

As for the fly -- I was thinking about that very thing (Hex hatch)
when I was doing some tying on Monday night. That is one of the
hatches we get that is likely to get the interest of larger fish. I
tied 'em as #6, so I might need to go back to the vise again.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian September 1st, 2004 03:25 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
ospam (Big Dale) wrote in message ...

I had a good friend who fished the Perch-Off at the Austin Angler for many
years and was damn near disqualified AGAIN a few years ago when he hit a hex
hatch out near the school on Town Lake and he caught one of those trash fish
(largemouth bass) on a size 4 adams. It was close to a perfect match for the
bugs on the water. This was at about daybreak that morning.


Heh. Don't you *hate* when that happens. :-)

I think I know the area you're talking about on Town Lake. I used
to fish off one of the points just past the school parking lot. If
the water level was down, I could walk right out to a nice dropoff and
usually pick up a few decent bass.

As for the fly -- I was thinking about that very thing (Hex hatch)
when I was doing some tying on Monday night. That is one of the
hatches we get that is likely to get the interest of larger fish. I
tied 'em as #6, so I might need to go back to the vise again.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian September 1st, 2004 03:32 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message om...

well, this is not a precise response to your query, but it evidences a
similar phenomenon. i went up to brevard, nc, in the blue ridge, to pick up
my son a couple years ago, where he was visiting a family friend. he had
found a little pond, and had been spin fishing it for bass. he had caught a
few 10-14 inchers during his stay. it was like mid-august, and hot. he
wanted to go fishing one more time before we returned home, so i grabbed the
only gear i had in the jeep--a 4wt with a 16 light cahill on a 5x
tippet--figuring to just keep him company, or maybe grab a bream or two.
so i'm standing on a dock, tossing a few perfunctory casts in a half
circle, and the damn cahill disappears in what appeared to be the surface
disturbance one might expect from the entry of a five pound piece of granite
into the pond. about a three pound largemouth. fooled around with him for
about ten minutes. the cahill looked ludicrous in his lips.
no bugs of any sort in the air. no possible way there had ever been a
mayfly hatch in that water.
anthony, my boy, wandered up as i released the bass; he just shook his
head and said, with an air of resignation, "random, dad".


Kids these days. :-) I wonder if that might have been a case of
there being so little in the way of forage in that pond that the fish
just went after anything that moved. I know that the area I was
fishing is not exactly teeming with forage fish, and isn't really that
nutrient-rich in general.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian September 1st, 2004 03:32 PM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message om...

well, this is not a precise response to your query, but it evidences a
similar phenomenon. i went up to brevard, nc, in the blue ridge, to pick up
my son a couple years ago, where he was visiting a family friend. he had
found a little pond, and had been spin fishing it for bass. he had caught a
few 10-14 inchers during his stay. it was like mid-august, and hot. he
wanted to go fishing one more time before we returned home, so i grabbed the
only gear i had in the jeep--a 4wt with a 16 light cahill on a 5x
tippet--figuring to just keep him company, or maybe grab a bream or two.
so i'm standing on a dock, tossing a few perfunctory casts in a half
circle, and the damn cahill disappears in what appeared to be the surface
disturbance one might expect from the entry of a five pound piece of granite
into the pond. about a three pound largemouth. fooled around with him for
about ten minutes. the cahill looked ludicrous in his lips.
no bugs of any sort in the air. no possible way there had ever been a
mayfly hatch in that water.
anthony, my boy, wandered up as i released the bass; he just shook his
head and said, with an air of resignation, "random, dad".


Kids these days. :-) I wonder if that might have been a case of
there being so little in the way of forage in that pond that the fish
just went after anything that moved. I know that the area I was
fishing is not exactly teeming with forage fish, and isn't really that
nutrient-rich in general.


Chuck Vance

rw September 2nd, 2004 02:19 AM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
bruiser wrote:
"Tim J." wrote

The Adams is one of those indespensible patterns that
imitates nothing,



I think a parachute adams is super representative of a mayfly dun. Not an
attractor at all. But maybe I've been missing something. ;-)


Agreed. It's an excellent baetis imitation, and it's close enough to
many other species to pass. The important thing is to have a full
variety of sizes. If there is one indespensible mayfly pattern, it's the
parachute adams.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw September 2nd, 2004 02:19 AM

A meaningless observation and a question
 
bruiser wrote:
"Tim J." wrote

The Adams is one of those indespensible patterns that
imitates nothing,



I think a parachute adams is super representative of a mayfly dun. Not an
attractor at all. But maybe I've been missing something. ;-)


Agreed. It's an excellent baetis imitation, and it's close enough to
many other species to pass. The important thing is to have a full
variety of sizes. If there is one indespensible mayfly pattern, it's the
parachute adams.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

bruiser September 2nd, 2004 02:47 AM

A meaningless observation and a question
 

"Tim J." wrote

The Adams is one of those indespensible patterns that
imitates nothing,


I think a parachute adams is super representative of a mayfly dun. Not an
attractor at all. But maybe I've been missing something. ;-)

bruce h




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