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daytripper October 4th, 2004 11:33 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222
:

Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast --
for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers.


I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever
going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6
wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations
that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80%
of the time you can fish with it.


I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot
more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-)

/daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-)

Scott Seidman October 4th, 2004 11:36 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
daytripper wrote in
:

On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
news:s118d.2222 :

Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast --
for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2
streamers.


I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without
ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a
3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There
are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll
have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it.


I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing
a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom
sets in ;-)

/daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-)


Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt?

Scott

Paul Lester October 4th, 2004 11:40 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that the
higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know
what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a
lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm
really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all
6 weight.

Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that I saw
yesterday.

Paul

"daytripper" wrote in message
...
On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222
:

Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast --
for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers.


I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever
going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a
6
wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations
that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80%
of the time you can fish with it.


I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a
lot
more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in
;-)

/daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-)




Scott Seidman October 4th, 2004 11:58 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
"Paul Lester" wrote in
:

Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that the
higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't
know what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess
that with a lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast
very far. I'm really excited to try it. I saw some combos at
Wal-mart, but they were all 6 weight.

Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that
I saw yesterday.

Paul


I would recommend the Orvis Flyfishing Guide by Tom Rosenbauer. You can
get it online at Orvis (follow the trail to flyfishing accessories/books
and videos) at any Orvis shop, or many flyfishing shops. It's a great
beginners guide, and about the same price as any "Dummies" book.

Scott

Willi & Sue October 5th, 2004 12:06 AM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
Scott Seidman wrote:



Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt?

Scott


I think it depends more on the rod/line combo and the person using it. I
took a guy out to my home river last year who was new to fly fishing.
When we got to the river, I
found that he couldn't cast well enough to be able to catch a fish. I
worked with him a bit with the 6 weight outfit he brought with and
didn't make much
progress. I decided to let him try the 4 weight (I know it's not a 3
weight) I was going to use and in short order he was casting, not well
but good
enough to catch a couple fish.

Willi



daytripper October 5th, 2004 01:24 AM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
On 4 Oct 2004 22:36:17 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote:

daytripper wrote in
:

On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
news:s118d.2222 :

Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast --
for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2
streamers.

I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without
ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a
3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There
are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll
have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it.


I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing
a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom
sets in ;-)

/daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-)


Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt?


I would think that would only be the case if one was dealing with wind. That's
the wild card.

All else equal (rod action, for instance) and with a leader appropriate for
the line and lure, with any properly mated rod and line the casting stroke
should be essentially the same regardless of weight.

/daytripper (that's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-)

Big Dale October 5th, 2004 11:26 AM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
Paul wrote:Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that
the
higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know
what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a
lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm
really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all
6 weight.

Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that I saw
yesterday.

Paul


Please go to WWW.FFF.org amd seek out the nearest fly fishing club and seek
help there. Most offer classes where you will learn the basics and join them on
one of their outings where you will have a chance to learn to play. Our local
Bass Pro offers free classes every Saturday to introduce you to the sport.
Something similar should be available at most fly shops. They need you to learn
so you can spend money there. We all spend way too much money on our hobbies.

Big Dale

snakefiddler October 5th, 2004 12:37 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:J818d.65404$He1.29595@attbi_s01...
Don Phillipson wrote:
"Paul Lester" wrote in message
.. .

I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for
panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read,
perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand
that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that
double taper is the best


Buy from a local FF specialist store, if there is one and
if you trust its advice. If not, choose a balanced outfit from
a reliable mail-order vendor for total cost over $100 and
under $250.


. . . or Frank Church will send you a complete kit for free. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
(who loves ya, Franky?)
http://css.sbcma.com/timj


only if ya ask real nice, and bat your eyelashes at him....
SEG

sanke- who knew those false lashes would be good for something one day ;-)




Tom Nakashima October 5th, 2004 02:51 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I would recommend the Orvis Flyfishing Guide by Tom Rosenbauer. You can
get it online at Orvis (follow the trail to flyfishing accessories/books
and videos) at any Orvis shop, or many flyfishing shops. It's a great
beginners guide, and about the same price as any "Dummies" book.

Scott


Books and videos are good, but I would have to say, a hands on class or
better yet, a one on one session with an instructor is best. And of course
lots of practicing.
Take it slow, and learn your basics. It's harder to correct someone with a
bad habit than it is for someone who is just starting.
As for set-up, you can always rent or borrow the equipment before you make a
purchase.
I would also stay away from on line purchases for flyrods, even thought you
can get good deals. It's best to cast the rod with the correct weight line
to get a good feel of the rod action.
-tom



Russell D. October 5th, 2004 04:13 PM

Beginner's fishing setup
 
Big Dale wrote:


Please go to WWW.FFF.org amd seek out the nearest fly fishing club



I'm bettin' Big Dale meant http://www.fedflyfishers.org/

HTH,

Russell


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