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alwaysfishking October 18th, 2004 12:53 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
I love those red gammy's, don't think I bought anything else from them
except red this year


"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,
due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When
I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I
examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't
bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,
3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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alwaysfishking October 18th, 2004 12:53 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
I love those red gammy's, don't think I bought anything else from them
except red this year


"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,
due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When
I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I
examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't
bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,
3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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Chris Rennert October 18th, 2004 12:59 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
Charles,

With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If I was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone free
ones to try just so they knew as well!

Take care,

Chris
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings, due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When
I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I
examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't
bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,
3/0,
4/0)





Charles B. Summers October 18th, 2004 01:30 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them.

I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet.

Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks.

"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,

due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When

I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on

a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I

examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't

bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,

3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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Charles B. Summers October 18th, 2004 01:30 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them.

I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet.

Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks.

"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,

due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When

I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on

a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I

examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't

bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,

3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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Charles B. Summers October 18th, 2004 01:33 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
Think I'll pick some of these up next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops*. I wish I
would have saved that other hook just to show them... but I doubt the girls
at the Customer Service desk would have a clue anyway.

*Unless you want to send me some free ones! LOL


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Charles,

With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If I was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters

classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too

light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone free
ones to try just so they knew as well!

Take care,




Charles B. Summers October 18th, 2004 01:33 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
Think I'll pick some of these up next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops*. I wish I
would have saved that other hook just to show them... but I doubt the girls
at the Customer Service desk would have a clue anyway.

*Unless you want to send me some free ones! LOL


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Charles,

With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If I was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters

classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too

light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone free
ones to try just so they knew as well!

Take care,




Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard October 18th, 2004 02:37 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:33 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them.

I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet.

Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks.

Charles,
I thought the red was a "red herring" (pun) at first, but looking back
at the change when I would switch to them, I have to say they make a
difference. Then I thought back to the small spinners I use for Trout
and how I increased my catch ratio by putting a tiny piece of red yarn
on the hook shank. I have plain steel, but I don't think I'll use
anything but red now. Although a short red yarn streamer might not be
a bad idea.

Chris,
Why do you like the Diachi's? I know I like the Gammies because I can
get the thinner wire hooks that I like and appear to me to have the
strength I am looking for. I have yet to have one bend or break with
a fish on. The points seem to stay sharp longer too. I have to admit
I have not tried the Diachi hooks. Yet.



"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,

due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When

I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on

a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I

examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't

bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,

3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard October 18th, 2004 02:37 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:33 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them.

I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet.

Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks.

Charles,
I thought the red was a "red herring" (pun) at first, but looking back
at the change when I would switch to them, I have to say they make a
difference. Then I thought back to the small spinners I use for Trout
and how I increased my catch ratio by putting a tiny piece of red yarn
on the hook shank. I have plain steel, but I don't think I'll use
anything but red now. Although a short red yarn streamer might not be
a bad idea.

Chris,
Why do you like the Diachi's? I know I like the Gammies because I can
get the thinner wire hooks that I like and appear to me to have the
strength I am looking for. I have yet to have one bend or break with
a fish on. The points seem to stay sharp longer too. I have to admit
I have not tried the Diachi hooks. Yet.



"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,

due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When

I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on

a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I

examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't

bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,

3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard October 18th, 2004 02:37 AM

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:33 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them.

I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet.

Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks.

Charles,
I thought the red was a "red herring" (pun) at first, but looking back
at the change when I would switch to them, I have to say they make a
difference. Then I thought back to the small spinners I use for Trout
and how I increased my catch ratio by putting a tiny piece of red yarn
on the hook shank. I have plain steel, but I don't think I'll use
anything but red now. Although a short red yarn streamer might not be
a bad idea.

Chris,
Why do you like the Diachi's? I know I like the Gammies because I can
get the thinner wire hooks that I like and appear to me to have the
strength I am looking for. I have yet to have one bend or break with
a fish on. The points seem to stay sharp longer too. I have to admit
I have not tried the Diachi hooks. Yet.



"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:32:57 -0500, "Charles B. Summers"
sent into the ether:

I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,

due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When

I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on

a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I

examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't

bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,

3/0,
4/0)

Why didn't you like the Gammies Charles. I love those hooks. I have
yet to get a bad one. I try to stay with the lighter wire styles
instead of the heavier ones. Now I have started using the reds. I
actually think the reds are making a difference.

Depending on what I am doing I use 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0. All are
offset style straight worm hooks used Texas style for the most part.
I have some big craws I started using and was wondering do they make a
5/0?

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