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Tom Littleton wrote:
...... Once again, we are treated on ROFF to another so-called expert
pompously criticizing how others choose to ENJOY LIFE!! There is no right, or
wrong, way to flyfish....the **** just isn't that serious, folks.

As chance would have it, I checked Traver's Trout Magic out of the Bend
public library yesterday and read again last night (talking about a
fishing buddy with whom he had nothing in common outside the realm of
fishing, but about fishing had exactly the same ideas):

In saying this I don't mean to imply that our way is the only way, or the
better way, or the more virtuous way, or the flower-strewn way to
catching more fish or having more fun. Not even faintly. All I am trying
to say is that we curious fisherfolk fish for many things in many ways;
that we quickly spot any kindred souls, and that this mutual shock of
recognition forms a powerful, forgiving bond even if in other areas we
may be poles apart.

"Forgiving bond." I like that.

JR

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First, allow me to note that the photo of Dave is a pleasant one, albeit not a
Lefty Kreh moment, but a photo of a man enjoying himself astream. Steve would
seem to think that this photo enlightens on some level regarding ability/skill,
but I have no clue why it should. Let me meet the angler here, or anywhere, who
doesn't have some less-than-graceful moments....
As for this entire, tacky discourse regarding Dave, Warren, the San Juan, etc,
I still see no reason for it. As wayno puts it more eloquently, none of us is
on the verge of perfection, so why cast stones? As for Warren, it was
positively great to see him at Penn's, and for Dave to help make it possible. I
am sorry for any hardship upon Warren, but he is young and will make out just
fine in the long run, and I doubt his
"bitching" about finances was all THAT serious. As for Steve repeating it, and
making these attacks on LaCourse, it would seem we have yet another volunteer
in the "I'll prove myself to be a real dick" club on ROFF. The San Juan would
seem typical of a lot of tailwaters, but I haven't fished it so cannot venture
an opinion. Still, dissecting how newcomers fish it at first is far from
enlightening....one would think that if Steve B is an expert, he would share
the expertise, or at least gracefully allow others to learn in their own
fashion. Once again, we are treated on ROFF to another so-called expert
pompously criticizing how others choose to ENJOY LIFE!! There is no right, or
wrong, way to flyfish....the **** just isn't that serious, folks.
Tom

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rw wrote in news:41733145$0$28254
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It's a cliche to say that a picture is worth a thousand words, but like
many cliches, it contains an element of truth.

Let's see. Dave was fishing, and enjoying the water. You were snapping a
photo with mean-spirited intentions. Who are those thousand words about?

Scott

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rw wrote in news:41733145$0$28254
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It's a cliche to say that a picture is worth a thousand words, but like
many cliches, it contains an element of truth.

Let's see. Dave was fishing, and enjoying the water. You were snapping a
photo with mean-spirited intentions. Who are those thousand words about?

Scott

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I'm guilty as charged. Had my line wrapped around the butt. Hate it when that
happens, but it's better than having it wrap around the tip. d;o(

What is *really* bad is when I fish naked - I've done it at penns a few times -
and the fly line wraps around my little dick. I mean, *that* is a sight to
behold. Makes ya wanna give up the sport. Makes ya wanna run into the woods
screaming all the way. Makes ya wanna sit down on the river bank and cry
"Mama".

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I'm guilty as charged. Had my line wrapped around the butt. Hate it when that
happens, but it's better than having it wrap around the tip. d;o(

What is *really* bad is when I fish naked - I've done it at penns a few times -
and the fly line wraps around my little dick. I mean, *that* is a sight to
behold. Makes ya wanna give up the sport. Makes ya wanna run into the woods
screaming all the way. Makes ya wanna sit down on the river bank and cry
"Mama".

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riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and it
flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the cast.
I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not stand a
change of saving my tippet.

I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.

Willi

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riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and it
flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the cast.
I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not stand a
change of saving my tippet.

I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.

Willi

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Willi writes:

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting.

Willi, I wasn't casting. I was stumbling. rw told me to turn around for a
picture. I did. I did not have a good foot hold. As I remember, it was at
the tail of the Kiddie Pool/Hole. I was trying to cross over and had trouble
with slippery rocks (what's new). But, I was not casting or attempting to
cast. I was trying to regain my balance while Barnard was behind me hollering
"Turn around, Dave." No biggie. Barnard can have his fun with the picture. I
know what the truth is.

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Willi writes:

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting.

Willi, I wasn't casting. I was stumbling. rw told me to turn around for a
picture. I did. I did not have a good foot hold. As I remember, it was at
the tail of the Kiddie Pool/Hole. I was trying to cross over and had trouble
with slippery rocks (what's new). But, I was not casting or attempting to
cast. I was trying to regain my balance while Barnard was behind me hollering
"Turn around, Dave." No biggie. Barnard can have his fun with the picture. I
know what the truth is.