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[email protected] October 22nd, 2004 10:47 PM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
On 22 Oct 2004 21:22:20 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Svend Tang-Petersen


Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?


In the U.S.A., you can't hunt with a full automatic weapon. Semi auto shotguns
are commonly used world wide for hunting. Semi auto rifles are less common, but
can be used in most states, but generally, only with limited capacity. (usually
five rounds)

HTH


George Adams


A couple of other things, too. 1, for species such as dove, capacity is limited
to 3 total rounds, regardless of type of action, and 2, Semi-auto shotguns have
a place in that they are able to be used by those whose disability precludes the
effective or even safe use of a pump or a "break-open," plus the recoil _can_ be
less with the semi. With hunting regs, the type of gun is really just a matter
of preference as opposed to real advantage.

TC,
R


George Cleveland October 22nd, 2004 10:55 PM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:47:15 GMT, wrote:

On 22 Oct 2004 21:22:20 GMT,
ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Svend Tang-Petersen


Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?


In the U.S.A., you can't hunt with a full automatic weapon. Semi auto shotguns
are commonly used world wide for hunting. Semi auto rifles are less common, but
can be used in most states, but generally, only with limited capacity. (usually
five rounds)

HTH


George Adams


A couple of other things, too. 1, for species such as dove, capacity is limited
to 3 total rounds, regardless of type of action, and 2, Semi-auto shotguns have
a place in that they are able to be used by those whose disability precludes the
effective or even safe use of a pump or a "break-open," plus the recoil _can_ be
less with the semi. With hunting regs, the type of gun is really just a matter
of preference as opposed to real advantage.

TC,
R

Duck hunters are limited to 3 shells in the magazine too, pump or auto
(I mean semi-auto).


g.c.



George Cleveland October 22nd, 2004 10:55 PM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:47:15 GMT, wrote:

On 22 Oct 2004 21:22:20 GMT,
ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Svend Tang-Petersen


Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?


In the U.S.A., you can't hunt with a full automatic weapon. Semi auto shotguns
are commonly used world wide for hunting. Semi auto rifles are less common, but
can be used in most states, but generally, only with limited capacity. (usually
five rounds)

HTH


George Adams


A couple of other things, too. 1, for species such as dove, capacity is limited
to 3 total rounds, regardless of type of action, and 2, Semi-auto shotguns have
a place in that they are able to be used by those whose disability precludes the
effective or even safe use of a pump or a "break-open," plus the recoil _can_ be
less with the semi. With hunting regs, the type of gun is really just a matter
of preference as opposed to real advantage.

TC,
R

Duck hunters are limited to 3 shells in the magazine too, pump or auto
(I mean semi-auto).


g.c.



John Hightower October 22nd, 2004 11:53 PM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...

Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?


As has been pointed out, fully automatic weapons are tightly controlled,
very few people own one legally or otherwise. I don't believe they are
legal to use for hunting . When people talk about automatic weapons for
hunting they are really talking about automatic loading weapons, more
precisely known as semi-automatic weapons. You still have to pull the
trigger for each shot.

My father-in-law hunts big game with a semi-auto rifle chambered for .30-06.
He is a smaller man with a slender build. He doesn't care for the recoil of
a bolt action rifle, the semi-auto he uses is significantly lower recoil.

Semi-auto shotguns are seen more frequently than semi-auto rifles. They can
be a real advantage bird hunting, or in some shooting sports like skeet or
sporting clays. Personally I prefer a good over-under, but due to their
cost, they tend to be out of reach for most folks. Don't even think about
over-under rifles or side by side rifles (waaaaay expensive).

jh

jh



John Hightower October 22nd, 2004 11:53 PM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...

Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?


As has been pointed out, fully automatic weapons are tightly controlled,
very few people own one legally or otherwise. I don't believe they are
legal to use for hunting . When people talk about automatic weapons for
hunting they are really talking about automatic loading weapons, more
precisely known as semi-automatic weapons. You still have to pull the
trigger for each shot.

My father-in-law hunts big game with a semi-auto rifle chambered for .30-06.
He is a smaller man with a slender build. He doesn't care for the recoil of
a bolt action rifle, the semi-auto he uses is significantly lower recoil.

Semi-auto shotguns are seen more frequently than semi-auto rifles. They can
be a real advantage bird hunting, or in some shooting sports like skeet or
sporting clays. Personally I prefer a good over-under, but due to their
cost, they tend to be out of reach for most folks. Don't even think about
over-under rifles or side by side rifles (waaaaay expensive).

jh

jh



Kevin October 23rd, 2004 02:39 AM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
This is SPAM its on several other groups.
"trippin28track" wrote in message
om...
JOHN KERRY'S 2 decade long U.S. Senate record of opposing SECOND
AMENDMENT rights makes him the most ANTI-GUN candidate in history !!!!
Here is the proof:

FACT: Kerry co-sponosors a bill that would ban all semi-auto shotguns
and detachable magazine semi-auto rifles, a gigantic step towards
over-zealous gun control in the USA. (Nov. 21, 2003)

FACT: Kerry has said: "I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TAX ALL AMMUNITION,
PERSONALLY, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TAX GUNS" Nov. 7. 1993)

FACT: Kerry has voted NINE TIMES in favor of banning semi-auto
firearms (3 times in 1990, 2 times in 1993, 3 times in 1994, once in
2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted FOR a Ted Kennedy amendment to BAN MOST center
fire rifle ammunition, including the MOST COMMON ROUNDS USED BY
HUNTERS AND TARGET SHOOTERS. (March 2, 2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted to CLOSE OFF hundeds of thousands of acres of
the California Mojave Desert to hunting. (April 12, 1994)

FACT: Kerry has voted to hold the already HIGHLY REGULATED American
firearms industry legally responsible to acts of violent criminals.
(twice in 2004)

FACT: Kerry was 1 of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners
Protection Act (July 9, 1985)

FACT: Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless
Gestapo-like inspections of FFL holders. (July 9, 1985)

FACT: Kerry has voted to CRIMINALIZE legal gun sales between private
parties at gun shows. (in 1999 and 2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of $10,000 FINE and ONE YEAR
IN PRISON on an adult gun owner, if a juvenile STEALS said adult's
firearm and merely displays it in a public place. (in 1998 and 1999)

FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small gun dealers OUT OF BUSINESS,
which would have impacted the economy and availability of guns, ESP.
IN RURAL AREAS. (July 1993)

FACT: Kerry voted twice to ELIMINATE THE CIVILIAN MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAM
for our youth. (1993 and 1996)

FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners' freedom of speech- when NRA
sought the same exemption from campaign refinance rules that NEWS
ORGANIZATIONS have, Kerry called the effort "hijacking America's
airwaves".

FACT: Kerry commended the MILLION MOM MARCH in Washington that
included calls for GUN LICENSING, GUN REGISTRATION, and many other
restrictions on law abiding gun owners.

FACT: If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. SUPREME COURT
with Dianne Feistein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun
activists, who believe you HAVE NO RIGHT TO OWN ANY FIREARM.

WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM A KERRY PRESIDENCY:

1- A ban on all semi-auto shotguns, exactly the same type presented to
Kerry recently at a campaign stop.

2- A ban on ammunition, especially center fire rifle ammo.

3- A ban on all semi-automatic rifles.

4- Fewer firearms dealers and that means HIGHER PRICES for guns/ammo.

DEFEND FIREARMS- DEFEAT KERRY- VOTE GEORGE W. BUSH ON NOVEMBER 2

www.nrapvf.org




Kevin October 23rd, 2004 02:39 AM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
This is SPAM its on several other groups.
"trippin28track" wrote in message
om...
JOHN KERRY'S 2 decade long U.S. Senate record of opposing SECOND
AMENDMENT rights makes him the most ANTI-GUN candidate in history !!!!
Here is the proof:

FACT: Kerry co-sponosors a bill that would ban all semi-auto shotguns
and detachable magazine semi-auto rifles, a gigantic step towards
over-zealous gun control in the USA. (Nov. 21, 2003)

FACT: Kerry has said: "I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TAX ALL AMMUNITION,
PERSONALLY, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TAX GUNS" Nov. 7. 1993)

FACT: Kerry has voted NINE TIMES in favor of banning semi-auto
firearms (3 times in 1990, 2 times in 1993, 3 times in 1994, once in
2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted FOR a Ted Kennedy amendment to BAN MOST center
fire rifle ammunition, including the MOST COMMON ROUNDS USED BY
HUNTERS AND TARGET SHOOTERS. (March 2, 2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted to CLOSE OFF hundeds of thousands of acres of
the California Mojave Desert to hunting. (April 12, 1994)

FACT: Kerry has voted to hold the already HIGHLY REGULATED American
firearms industry legally responsible to acts of violent criminals.
(twice in 2004)

FACT: Kerry was 1 of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners
Protection Act (July 9, 1985)

FACT: Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless
Gestapo-like inspections of FFL holders. (July 9, 1985)

FACT: Kerry has voted to CRIMINALIZE legal gun sales between private
parties at gun shows. (in 1999 and 2004)

FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of $10,000 FINE and ONE YEAR
IN PRISON on an adult gun owner, if a juvenile STEALS said adult's
firearm and merely displays it in a public place. (in 1998 and 1999)

FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small gun dealers OUT OF BUSINESS,
which would have impacted the economy and availability of guns, ESP.
IN RURAL AREAS. (July 1993)

FACT: Kerry voted twice to ELIMINATE THE CIVILIAN MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAM
for our youth. (1993 and 1996)

FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners' freedom of speech- when NRA
sought the same exemption from campaign refinance rules that NEWS
ORGANIZATIONS have, Kerry called the effort "hijacking America's
airwaves".

FACT: Kerry commended the MILLION MOM MARCH in Washington that
included calls for GUN LICENSING, GUN REGISTRATION, and many other
restrictions on law abiding gun owners.

FACT: If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. SUPREME COURT
with Dianne Feistein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun
activists, who believe you HAVE NO RIGHT TO OWN ANY FIREARM.

WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM A KERRY PRESIDENCY:

1- A ban on all semi-auto shotguns, exactly the same type presented to
Kerry recently at a campaign stop.

2- A ban on ammunition, especially center fire rifle ammo.

3- A ban on all semi-automatic rifles.

4- Fewer firearms dealers and that means HIGHER PRICES for guns/ammo.

DEFEND FIREARMS- DEFEAT KERRY- VOTE GEORGE W. BUSH ON NOVEMBER 2

www.nrapvf.org




B J Conner October 23rd, 2004 03:49 AM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
Two in the magazine, one in the chamber.
BJ Conner
NRA life member,
vetran for Kerry

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:47:15 GMT, wrote:

On 22 Oct 2004 21:22:20 GMT,
ojunk (George Adams)

wrote:

From: Svend Tang-Petersen

Why do you need a semi or full automatic gun to go hunting ? Are you a
bad shot or just too lazy to reload ?

In the U.S.A., you can't hunt with a full automatic weapon. Semi auto

shotguns
are commonly used world wide for hunting. Semi auto rifles are less

common, but
can be used in most states, but generally, only with limited capacity.

(usually
five rounds)

HTH


George Adams


A couple of other things, too. 1, for species such as dove, capacity is

limited
to 3 total rounds, regardless of type of action, and 2, Semi-auto

shotguns have
a place in that they are able to be used by those whose disability

precludes the
effective or even safe use of a pump or a "break-open," plus the recoil

_can_ be
less with the semi. With hunting regs, the type of gun is really just a

matter
of preference as opposed to real advantage.

TC,
R

Duck hunters are limited to 3 shells in the magazine too, pump or auto
(I mean semi-auto).


g.c.





[email protected] October 23rd, 2004 04:06 AM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:39:25 -0500, "Kevin" wrote:

This is SPAM its on several other groups.


How strange...here, it's just crap...

Wolfgang October 23rd, 2004 04:27 AM

KERRY wants to BAN GUNS in AMERICA !!
 

"John Hightower" wrote in message
...

...Semi-auto shotguns are seen more frequently than semi-auto rifles.
They can
be a real advantage bird hunting, or in some shooting sports like skeet or
sporting clays. Personally I prefer a good over-under, but due to their
cost, they tend to be out of reach for most folks. Don't even think about
over-under rifles or side by side rifles (waaaaay expensive).


For what little it's worth......

Over and under double barrel shotguns can be had for a pretty reasonable
price. I bought a new one (Turkish made) for Becky three or four years ago
for about $400. I haven't looked at auto loaders in some time, but I'd
guess that would be a tough price to beat. And auto loaders don't have any
advantage over double barrel guns for trap, skeet or sporting
clays......unless one counts the dubious recoil thingy.

Wolfgang




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