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Try a Scott, they have alignment dots and are very nice rods

jesus, what a small world! i have a martin 00028, and it has
alignment dots, and it's a very nice guitar!

wayno (i mean, the beauty of the whole big mandala, as it turns,
and all things come together in this seamless flow, and everything
is so, well, so ...sweet...)

Well, this is quite a relief. All these years I've thought that
Patty Duke, Paula Prentiss, Ursula Andress, Ellen Green, Jessica
Lang, Mary Steenbergen and various others just didn't like
me......you know, something personal. Turns out we just didn't have
alignment dots! :)

I always thought the beauty of male/female sexual attraction was that we
(most of us) *did* come with alignment dots. Of course, some folks play
connect the dots just any ol' which way.
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TL,
Tim
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Wolfgang wrote:
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"flyannapolis" wrote in message
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Try a Scott, they have alignment dots and are very nice rods

jesus, what a small world! i have a martin 00028, and it has
alignment dots, and it's a very nice guitar!

wayno (i mean, the beauty of the whole big mandala, as it turns,
and all things come together in this seamless flow, and everything
is so, well, so ...sweet...)

Well, this is quite a relief. All these years I've thought that
Patty Duke, Paula Prentiss, Ursula Andress, Ellen Green, Jessica
Lang, Mary Steenbergen and various others just didn't like
me......you know, something personal. Turns out we just didn't have
alignment dots! :)

I always thought the beauty of male/female sexual attraction was that we
(most of us) *did* come with alignment dots. Of course, some folks play
connect the dots just any ol' which way.

Oh great. So, now I'm back to my original theory. Well, thanks a lot for
that! :(

Wolfgang
merry christmas, my ass.

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"Tim J." wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"flyannapolis" wrote in message
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Try a Scott, they have alignment dots and are very nice rods

jesus, what a small world! i have a martin 00028, and it has
alignment dots, and it's a very nice guitar!

wayno (i mean, the beauty of the whole big mandala, as it turns,
and all things come together in this seamless flow, and everything
is so, well, so ...sweet...)

Well, this is quite a relief. All these years I've thought that
Patty Duke, Paula Prentiss, Ursula Andress, Ellen Green, Jessica
Lang, Mary Steenbergen and various others just didn't like
me......you know, something personal. Turns out we just didn't have
alignment dots! :)

I always thought the beauty of male/female sexual attraction was that we
(most of us) *did* come with alignment dots. Of course, some folks play
connect the dots just any ol' which way.

Oh great. So, now I'm back to my original theory. Well, thanks a lot for
that! :(

Wolfgang
merry christmas, my ass.

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Try a Scott, they have alignment dots and are very nice rods


I thought those were birthmarks.

Scott

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I thought those were birthmarks.

Scott

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The Ibis rod seems nice enough, but was made in China, so I suspect that it is about
as good as a KPOS.

and we all better get used to it as Orvis will soon be closing down
British Fly Reel and having BFR reels made in China. No doubt charging
the same exhorbitant prices. The rod plant in Manchester, VT can't be
far behind. The Wal-Martification of the North American economy
continues apace. Enjoy the ride.



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The Ibis rod seems nice enough, but was made in China, so I suspect that it is about
as good as a KPOS.

and we all better get used to it as Orvis will soon be closing down
British Fly Reel and having BFR reels made in China. No doubt charging
the same exhorbitant prices. The rod plant in Manchester, VT can't be
far behind. The Wal-Martification of the North American economy
continues apace. Enjoy the ride.



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The Ibis rod seems nice enough, but was made in China, so I suspect that it is about
as good as a KPOS.

and we all better get used to it as Orvis will soon be closing down
British Fly Reel and having BFR reels made in China. No doubt charging
the same exhorbitant prices. The rod plant in Manchester, VT can't be
far behind. The Wal-Martification of the North American economy
continues apace. Enjoy the ride.



Peter

I didn't get a chance to take it out for a test run today, as the temp. dropped
dramatically, and we just received our first snow--here in the foothills of Lenoir.

If the past is any indicator of the future, pertainin' to the weather, I will hit a
stream on the next warm day before the really cold weather sets in to stay.

Mark --I can only hope I didn't pay $295 for a $20 flyrod!--

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The Ibis rod seems nice enough, but was made in China, so I suspect that
it is about
as good as a KPOS.

and we all better get used to it as Orvis will soon be closing down
British Fly Reel and having BFR reels made in China. No doubt charging
the same exhorbitant prices. The rod plant in Manchester, VT can't be
far behind. The Wal-Martification of the North American economy
continues apace. Enjoy the ride.



Peter

I didn't get a chance to take it out for a test run today, as the temp.
dropped dramatically, and we just received our first snow--here in the
foothills of Lenoir.

If the past is any indicator of the future, pertainin' to the weather, I
will hit a stream on the next warm day before the really cold weather sets
in to stay.

Mark --I can only hope I didn't pay $295 for a $20 flyrod!--

" A. Her only name is Sadisah, and it's safe to say that she's never
heard of Michael Jordan. Nor is she spending her evenings watching him and
his Olympic teammates gliding and dunking in prime time from Barcelona. But
she HAS heard of the shoe company he endorses--Nike, whose logo can be seen
on the shoes and uniforms of many American Olympic athletes this summer.
Like Jordan, Sadisah works on behalf of Nike. You won't see her, however,
in the flashy TV images of freedom and individuality that smugly command us
to JUST DO IT!--just spend upward of $130 for a pair of basketball shoes.
Yet Sadisah is, in fact, one of the people who IS doing it--making the
actual shoes, that is, and earning paychecks such as this one [A copy of a
paycheck stub accompanies the text in the original article. The four
sections quoted here, beginning with A. refer to various sections on the pay
stub. While the illustration helps, the meaning should nevertheless be
clear-WS] in a factory in Indonesia.
In the 1980s, Oregon-based Nike closed its last U.S. footwear factory,
in Saco, Maine, while establishing most of its new factories in South Korea,
where Sung Hwa Corp. is based. Sung Hwa is among many independent producers
Nike has contracted with. Nike's actions were part of the broader
'globalization' trend that saw the United States lose 65,300 footwear jobs
between 1982 and 1989 as shoe companies sought non-unionized Third World
workers who didn't require the U.S. rubber-shoe industry average of $6.94 an
hour. But in the late 1980s, South Korean laborers gained the right to form
independent unions and to strike. Higher wages ate into Nike's profits.
The company shifted new factories to poorer countries such as Indonesia,
where labor rights are generally ignored and wages are but one seventh of
Korea's. (The Sung Hwa factory and others like it are located in Tangerang,
a squalid industrial boomtown just outside Jakarta.) Today, to make 80
million pairs of shoes annually, Nike contracts with several dozen factories
globally, including six in Indonesia. Others are in China, Malaysia,
Thailand, and Taiwan. By shifting factories to cheaper labor pools, Nike
has posted year after year of growth; in 1991 the company grossed more than
$3 billion in sales--$200 million of which Nike attributes to Jordan's
endorsement--and reported a net profit of $287 million, its highest ever.
B. 'Pendapatan' is the earnings column, and five lines below the base
pay figure for the month (50,400 rupiah) is one for overtime. Sadisah and
the other workers in this factory are compelled to put in extra hours, both
by economic necessity and by employer fiat. Each production line of 115
workers is expected to produce about 1,600 pairs of Nikes a day. According
to the column at left, next to 'OT (JAM),' Sadisah worked 63 hours of
overtime during this pay period, for which she received an extra 2 cents per
hour. At this factory, which makes mid-priced Nikes, each pair of shoes
requires .84 man-hours to produce; working on an assembly line, Sadisah
assembled the equivalent of 13.9 pairs every day. The profit margin on each
pair is enormous. The labor costs to manufacture a pair of Nikes that sells
for $80 in the United States is approximately 12 cents.
C. Here are Sadisah's net earnings for a month of labor. She puts in
six days a week, ten and a half hours per day, for a paycheck equivalent to
$37.46--about half the retail price of one pair of the sneakers she makes.
Boosters of the global economy and 'free markets' claim that creating
employment around the world promotes free trade between industrializing and
developing countries. But how many Western products can people in Indonesia
buy when they can't earn enough to eat? The answer can't be found in Nike's
TV ads showing Michael Jordan sailing above the earth for his reported
multiyear endorsement fee of $200 million--an amount, incidentally, that at
the par rates shown here would take Sadisah 44,492 years to earn.
D. The words printed on the pay stub are in Bahasa Indonesia, a
language created by fusing Roman characters with a dominant Malay dialect.
The message, however, is bottom-line capitalism. "Per hari' is the daily
wage for seven and a half hours of work, which in Sadisah's case is 2,100
Indonesian rupiah--at the current rate of exchange, $1.03 per day. That
amount, which works out to just under 14 cents per hour, is less than the
Indonesian government's figure for 'minimum physical need.' A recent
International Labor Organization survey found that 88 percent of Indonesian
women working at Sadisah's wage rates are malnourished. And most workers in
this factory--over 80 percent--are women. With seldom more than
elementary-school education, they are generally in their teens or early
twenties, and have come from outlying agricultural areas in search of city
jobs and a better life. Sadisah"s wages allow her to rent a shanty without
electricity or running water."*

So, I guess the short answer is.......depends on how you cipher it.
:)

Wolfgang
*from "The New Free-Trade Heel", Jeffrey Ballinger, "Harper's", 1991, quoted
in "Colossus: How the Corporation Changed America", Jack Beatty, ed.,
Broadway Books, 2001 pp.135-137.

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...


Sadisah"s wages allow her to rent a shanty without
electricity or running water."*

So, I guess the short answer is.......depends on how you cipher it.
:)

Wolfgang
*from "The New Free-Trade Heel", Jeffrey Ballinger, "Harper's", 1991, quoted
in "Colossus: How the Corporation Changed America", Jack Beatty, ed.,
Broadway Books, 2001 pp.135-137.


Point well taken.

Mark