To each his own. All I know is that I have found amber to be the best color
for dubbing in our local lakes. I have even seen live bugs in a medium
brown. My second best producer is peacock herl. Who know what the fish
think it is.

Re your silver ribbon... there is a commercially availble WB fly with a
silver bead for the body. I've never used it since I cannot find the silver
beads

As far a weight goes, usually one split shot is enough for weight. but
when they are really active, just using an unweighted fly as a dropper to
a calleibaetis spinner is often productive; any weight might sink the dry
fly.


"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , jackk
writes
A pattern that we use with success in lakes in the Sierra is as follows

Size 14 or 16 wet fly hook
Tie on 2 pcs of pearl crystal flash at rear of hook as a tail. two or
three
times the length of the hook

Can't see the need for this, but if it works I won't knock it.

Tie on a thin strip of black plastic (from a garbagge bags) at rear of
hook
facing backwards. It will be pulled foreward as a shell back

Fine shell back material. cut the plastic in a sort of canoe shape, it
forms the body wing case nicely.

Dub a bulbous tapered body. Use white, cream, tan, amber or gold dubbing
or
peacock hearl.

I would suggest a weighted underbody like some fine lead wire flattened,
and a bulbous body of tying thread over wrapped with flat silver ribbon.

Pull plastic foreward and tie off at hook eye
Tie in two brown or black goose biots in at eye as legs. should be at
least
half the length of body and should point downwards and backwards.

Black biots should look good tied as you suggest.


The bug should be fished by allowing it to sink and tweaking it to the
surface in short jerks.

Do we agree?
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , jackk
writes
As far a weight goes, usually one split shot is enough for weight. but
when they are really active, just using an unweighted fly as a dropper to
a calleibaetis spinner is often productive; any weight might sink the dry
fly.

Nah! You don't want to use split shot when fishing fly!


--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

"jackk" wrote in message
...
To each his own. All I know is that I have found amber to be the best
color
for dubbing in our local lakes.
(snip)

Re your silver ribbon... there is a commercially availble WB fly with a
silver bead for the body. I've never used it since I cannot find the
silver
beads
(snip)

Hi jackk,
Reference the silver beads. I think I entered a soft hackle swap here or on
ROFF where I did a pattern called a scintillator, or something like that. .
.. was an emerger caddis pattern. I got the beads from a craft store.
The pain was getting a hook with a small enough size eye so I could put the
bead over the front of the hook, as it was not possible to get it over the
bend of the hook. (long shape of bead) I believe it was a plastic kind of
bead. I think Larry Medina, who used to hang around here a bit, did the
swap.
Heck . . .I just looked up my paper copy. It was September 2001.
Web site used to be:
http://home.planet.nl/~westb001/SHSwap.html
for the pics.

I've found it doesn't quite matter how I get the bead on a hook, but more
importantly, to get it anchored in where I want it on the hook, for the
pattern I am tying. It seems I've tied patterns with maybe some type of
bead anywhere along the hook shank. :) Heh . . .heh . . .and I don't even
use bead patterns that much . . .but I certainly have them along.
HTH a bit,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

The bead is the same except for the finish. The football shaped bead for
the Scintillator is pearl and available in some shops. I have never been
able to find the silver finished one, though I admit, I haven't tried real
hard. As I said, the amber dubbing produces very well in the lakes that I
fish.

)

Hi jackk,
Reference the silver beads. I think I entered a soft hackle swap here or
on
ROFF where I did a pattern called a scintillator, or something like that.
..
. was an emerger caddis pattern. I got the beads from a craft store.
The pain was getting a hook with a small enough size eye so I could put
the
bead over the front of the hook, as it was not possible to get it over the
bend of the hook. (long shape of bead) I believe it was a plastic kind
of
bead. I think Larry Medina, who used to hang around here a bit, did the
swap.
Heck . . .I just looked up my paper copy. It was September 2001.
Web site used to be:
http://home.planet.nl/~westb001/SHSwap.html
for the pics.

I've found it doesn't quite matter how I get the bead on a hook, but more
importantly, to get it anchored in where I want it on the hook, for the
pattern I am tying. It seems I've tied patterns with maybe some type of
bead anywhere along the hook shank. :) Heh . . .heh . . .and I don't
even
use bead patterns that much . . .but I certainly have them along.
HTH a bit,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

"jackk" wrote in message
...
The bead is the same except for the finish. The football shaped bead for
the Scintillator is pearl and available in some shops. I have never been
able to find the silver finished one, though I admit, I haven't tried real
hard. As I said, the amber dubbing produces very well in the lakes that I
fish.

)

Hi jackk,
Reference the silver beads. I think I entered a soft hackle swap here
or
on
ROFF where I did a pattern called a scintillator, or something like
that.
(snipped)
DaveMohnsen

Hi again jackk,
Ya got me curious. Just looked. I have silver, pearl, and gold in the
football shapes. Email me with your snail mail address and I'll send you a
few. ( the problem again is fitting to whatever hooks . . . I could only do
it to one or two sizes, for the project at that time . . .and pearl only
worked for me . . .then)

DaveMohnsen
Denver
( hmm . . . I'd probably go the dubbing way, me own self . . . but the other
looks kinda "pretty", for the folks buying the stuff. :)

there is nothing wrong with using split shot. You often need something to
get the fly down, and a lot of people don't like weight in the fly. they
believe that a weighted fly doesn't look/act/move as natural as an
unweighted fly. Also if you're going to weight the fly, you should tie some
unweighted, some lightly weighted, some heavily weighted, etc It is easier
to change the weight by using different amounts/size of split shot, or sink
putty etc. the disadvantage I believe with split shot is that it gets hung
up easier than a weighted fly


"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , jackk
writes
As far a weight goes, usually one split shot is enough for weight. but
when they are really active, just using an unweighted fly as a dropper
to
a calleibaetis spinner is often productive; any weight might sink the
dry
fly.

Nah! You don't want to use split shot when fishing fly!


--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

It is easier to change the weight by using different amounts/size of
split shot, or sink putty etc. the disadvantage I believe with split
shot is that it gets hung up easier than a weighted fly

You may already know this, but one way to cope with that is to leave a
long "pigtail" on your tippet when you tie it to your leader. Then
tie a half-hitch at the end of the pigtail, and another partway up
toward the knot. Attach your split shot between the two knots.

The lower knot is to keep the split shot from slipping off. The
upper one is to weaken the tippet material so it will break at that
point if the split shot gets hung up, saving your fly.

vince

Pearl Backswimmer


Hook: Dai Riki 300, #12-16

Butt: pearl/clear bead

Body: clear Dubbing Accent

Shellback: mottled oak Thin Skin

Legs: olive Flexifloss





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