"George Cleveland"

I know several *excellent* fishermen who fish
5 wt. rods virtually everywhere, from the spring creeks of SW
Wisconsin to the tag alder jungles up north to the smallmouth bass
rivers that are everywhere up here to the big rivers in Montana.


g.c.
......and a couple not so excellent fisherman who use a five weights....

john

"asadi" wrote

"George Cleveland"

I know several *excellent* fishermen who fish
5 wt. rods virtually everywhere, from the spring creeks of SW
Wisconsin to the tag alder jungles up north to the smallmouth bass
rivers that are everywhere up here to the big rivers in Montana.


g.c.
.....and a couple not so excellent fisherman who use a five weights....

john

True, soooo true.
but I do love my 5 wt rod.

~Chad

On Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:45 -0500, Bob Patton
wrote:

Joe wrote:
But do you think the shorter rod will be necessary anyway, for the
places I want to fish? I cant imagine hauling a 9-footer into some of
these places. I've thought about getting a second heavier and longer
rod for other situations, but dont even know if I am going to like
using the first one yet...


The longer rod will be a little more versatile, but if you spend too
much time worrying about which rod, reel, backing, line, leader, tippet,
and fly to use, then you'll never get to the water and learn what this
is all about in the first place.

Without a little help getting started you may find yourself bewildered.
I'd find a good fly shop somewhere close and get some advice there about
fly selection and where to fish. And buy the rod there, too.

Mail-order is fine for people who know what they want. But folks who
need advice should join the local chapter of Trout Unlimited or
Federation of Fly Fishers and buy their gear from somebody local.

Having said all that . . . I see that Cabela's has an 8 1/2 foot
5-weight on sale for 90 bucks. I think that'd be hard to beat. Wait
until you have some more experience before going for a lighter rod.

Bob


If you do go the Cabela's route see if you can pick up a combo with
their new Prestige Plus mid-arbor reel. I received one yesterday as
part of a thank you gift from a message board on which I moderate.
Seems to be a very nicely put together reel for the price (for a
KPOS). Silent retreive and only a very subtle click on the drag.


g.c.

George Cleveland wrote:

Silent retreive and only a very subtle click on the drag.

Good Lord man, a fly reel has got to make some noise!

If you do go the Cabela's route see if you can pick up a combo with
their new Prestige Plus mid-arbor reel. I received one yesterday as
part of a thank you gift from a message board on which I moderate.
Seems to be a very nicely put together reel for the price (for a
KPOS). Silent retreive and only a very subtle click on the drag.


Someone else warned me about the noisy Cahill reel that comes with
Cabelas lowest price combo, but the Prestige Plus combo was a bit
beyond my budget. After long indecision I decided to get the shorter 4
wt rod combo with CSR reel. If the CSR's suck be nice and dont tell me,
presumably they are a little nicer than the Cahills though I dont know
how quiet they are. I spoke with a couple local flyfishers, one said he
would go with a 9 foot rod and the other said thats what he started
with and he hated it, so I went with the guy who said what I wanted to
hear and ordered a 7.5 footer. It'll be good enough to see if I like
this ff stuff or not, I can always get another rod later. I will
definitely buy my flies locally and hopefully get some more local
advice along with them. I will practice with my local bluegills before
taking it into the brush. I cant wait to get started!

George Cleveland wrote:


Who wonders how many people can *always* lay a fly down in a 6" circle
at 40'.


well...um... i can - it's easy...of course, i'm assuming there's no
wind, a drunk front hasn't moved in, the landscape is level and
unforested, the circle is well-lit or marked (orange paint works), i can
use a big fly, and i can manage to walk that far...hell, i can lay a fly
down in that size circle - even a smaller one - everytime! i'll be in
your area in sept. and i'll show ya.

da tar heel yooper tourist

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am new to ff, will be ordering a Cabelas 5 piece pack rod/reel combo
tomorrow. Is there anything you would recommend in flies for a beginner
that I can also get from Cabelas (without spending $50, hopefully)? I
will be fishing primarily small streams and brookie creeks roughly
10-30 feet wide, in northern WI and MN . I havent yet decided whether
to go with a 3 or 4 wgt, although I'm leaning towards the 4 because it
comes in a shorter length (7'6") and I think that will work better on
the small creeks (and be easier to learn with?). Any thougts on that
choice will also be appreciated though.

Up to a point, longer rods are usually easier to cast. As are heavier lines
(4,5,6 compared to 1,2,3) Having said that, my favorite small stream rod is
a 7.5 foot 4 wt. I'd buy my flies at a shop where you can see them first.

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...

1. When learning to cast, a longer rod is usually
an easier tool. Do not try fishing in confined spaces
until you cast instinctively, e.g. can place your fly on
within 6 inches accuracy at a range of 40 feet without
even thinking about.

Um, I don't even think I can do that, and I manage to catch some fish
sometimes.

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
But do you think the shorter rod will be necessary anyway, for the
places I want to fish? I cant imagine hauling a 9-footer into some of
these places. I've thought about getting a second heavier and longer
rod for other situations, but dont even know if I am going to like
using the first one yet...

Sometimes the places are so tight that the longer rod is helpful because you
can't make a full cast - you just sort of reach the line out there. And
don't worry you don't make too many 40 foot casts on small streams. Still,
a shorter rod like 7.5 feet is probably easier to maneuver on small streams.

jeffc wrote:

Up to a point, longer rods are usually easier to cast. As are heavier lines
(4,5,6 compared to 1,2,3) Having said that, my favorite small stream rod is
a 7.5 foot 4 wt. I'd buy my flies at a shop where you can see them first.

Thats exactly the rod I bought, a Cabelas Stowaway 4 wt 7.5' and it
arrived today. I'm no expert on flyfishing but I know cheap crappy
merchandise when I see it. I'm very happy to say I did not see anything
of the sort when I opened my package. The rod is beautiful and seems
very well-made, and the reel seems well made and is very functional (in
my living room anyway). But on top of that it came with a cordura wrap
with slots for each section, and two very nice cases, a tube and a pack
case with handle, and a seperate paded reel case. Nothing about this
package appears cheap. I am quite impressed and if it works half as
well as it appears to be made, I will be very happy. Tomorrow I head to
the fly shop for flies.