On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:30:56 GMT, "Stan Gula"
wrote:

Something that was passed on to me just this week that I hadn't thought of
before. My buddy Jim wears sun gloves (these: http://tinyurl.com/7p4jl )
and I'm going to get some the bext time I'm ordering stuff. Not only do
they keep the sun off (something I need) , they also keep mosquitoes and
blackflies from biting your hands. I seem to be really prone to getting
mosquito bites between my fingers. The gloves have a cuff you can pull over
the end of your shirtsleeve too.

Good info, Stan. I have a friend who is never without them. I use
fleece gloves in Maine when the black flies are bad.

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Have a question re DEET.

Have a friend who is lactose intolerant, and as a result apparently emits
a
higher
level of CO2 than most folks while exhaling.

Mosquitos just love him in the summer.
If you go out with him, they all go to him. Really amazing.

Anyway, want him to try some of the stronger DEET products than he has
been
using presently.

A bit worried about the 100% deet, as I read in several places over the
years that
at this strength it is a carcinogen and should be avoided.
True ?

Dropping down in strengths, I see iall the products seem to go from the
100%
to 30% for several 3M offerings.
Doesn't seem to be anything between 100% and 30%, surprisingly.

Is the 30 % "fairly" effective ?

How dangerous is this stuff per any recent research ?

Any other repellents "worth" trying ?

Thanks,
Bob

I work in a park(s). I spend my days in the woods and by the rivers, creeks
and wetlands.
This is an everyday year-round thing for me so hosing myself down everyday
with deet to me is not an option. Over the years I have found a couple of
things that help dramatically.

1.Absolutely use NO, zero, nadda, none aftershave, cologne, scented bodywash
or any other smelly good body stuff. Use fragrance free shave cream, lotion,
shampoo & soap. It smells good to you and them, its like steak sauce for
them.
2.See number 1 and then apply it to you clothes. Unscented, perfume free
laundry detergent and no sweet smelling fabric softeners.
3.Here's the tricky part... After step 1&2 ... Don't stink. The idea is to
be sent free. Don't smell good but don't stink either. Being sweaty and
dirty will get you bit. Use a deodorant that works well for you but still
try to be as scent free as you can. Clean and odor free (good or bad) will
help tremendously. Just sweating itself will attract them. This can not be
avoided but at least start clean.
Simply taking clean water and wiping the sweat clean midday will help.

Now having said all that I still get bit from time to time. It really can't
be avoided, but these things do really help dramatically. But hey the
'sceeters gotta eat too. Just about the only time I use a deet insect
repellant is if I am in the tallgrass prairies. And then I only spray it on
my clothes. This is because of the chiggers, those little ****s will eat me
alive! If you try those three steps and combine it with a deet free product
like Badger Balm Anti-Bug
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...tId=3918143 4
You may be surprised how much they leave you alone. Either way you are still
going to get bit, it's just how it is.
I do on occasion use the above mentioned Badger Balm. It does work pretty
good.(not perfect) but it does smell good, which helps me from smelling like
stinky park ranger and is great for dry skin.
So tell your buddy to lay off the Aqua-Velva and to take a damn shower. ;-)
It could me as simple a changing the soap he's using. Or maybe not, but the
above does help.

~Chad

Goat wrote:
"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Have a question re DEET.

Have a friend who is lactose intolerant, and as a result apparently emits
a
higher
level of CO2 than most folks while exhaling.

Mosquitos just love him in the summer.
If you go out with him, they all go to him. Really amazing.

Anyway, want him to try some of the stronger DEET products than he has
been
using presently.

A bit worried about the 100% deet, as I read in several places over the
years that
at this strength it is a carcinogen and should be avoided.
True ?

Dropping down in strengths, I see iall the products seem to go from the
100%
to 30% for several 3M offerings.
Doesn't seem to be anything between 100% and 30%, surprisingly.

Is the 30 % "fairly" effective ?

How dangerous is this stuff per any recent research ?

Any other repellents "worth" trying ?

Thanks,
Bob

I work in a park(s). I spend my days in the woods and by the rivers, creeks
and wetlands.
This is an everyday year-round thing for me so hosing myself down everyday
with deet to me is not an option. Over the years I have found a couple of
things that help dramatically.

1.Absolutely use NO, zero, nadda, none aftershave, cologne, scented bodywash
or any other smelly good body stuff. Use fragrance free shave cream, lotion,
shampoo & soap. It smells good to you and them, its like steak sauce for
them.
2.See number 1 and then apply it to you clothes. Unscented, perfume free
laundry detergent and no sweet smelling fabric softeners.
3.Here's the tricky part... After step 1&2 ... Don't stink. The idea is to
be sent free. Don't smell good but don't stink either. Being sweaty and
dirty will get you bit. Use a deodorant that works well for you but still
try to be as scent free as you can. Clean and odor free (good or bad) will
help tremendously. Just sweating itself will attract them. This can not be
avoided but at least start clean.
Simply taking clean water and wiping the sweat clean midday will help.

Now having said all that I still get bit from time to time. It really can't
be avoided, but these things do really help dramatically. But hey the
'sceeters gotta eat too. Just about the only time I use a deet insect
repellant is if I am in the tallgrass prairies. And then I only spray it on
my clothes. This is because of the chiggers, those little ****s will eat me
alive! If you try those three steps and combine it with a deet free product
like Badger Balm Anti-Bug
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...tId=3918143 4
You may be surprised how much they leave you alone. Either way you are still
going to get bit, it's just how it is.
I do on occasion use the above mentioned Badger Balm. It does work pretty
good.(not perfect) but it does smell good, which helps me from smelling like
stinky park ranger and is great for dry skin.
So tell your buddy to lay off the Aqua-Velva and to take a damn shower. ;-)
It could me as simple a changing the soap he's using. Or maybe not, but the
above does help.

~Chad

Sounds nice and I happen to agree with the smelly stuff stay away
advice, but the buggers are still attracted by the carbon dioxide we
extrude through our pores and as we exhale, and the sound general
recommendations above has no effect on that. At least with me. In South
East Asia my Vietanese team members would tell me the reaon I was such
a bug magnet was due to my diet high in animal protein and salt. They
were probably correct.

100 percent DEET works for me. No sense changing horses in mid stream.
Simply because the Canadian Government stops or begins to endorse
*anything* does not leave me overly inclined to pay it serious
attention.

DavidNapierkowski