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Wolfgang October 20th, 2005 12:08 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"JDOE" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Connaisseur" wrote:

"Lionel F. Stevenson" schreef in bericht
...
We have sea run rainbows here. Nobody calls them Steelhead.

Is there a difference? Do they look different?

-- Lionel



A Rainbow is a landlocked Steelhead...;-))



What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?

--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.


It has been noted by various men and women throughout history that the
noblest goal to which one can aspire is to be useful. That is to say, to be
of service.....to fill a void, as it were.

Have you ever considered emigration?

Wolfgang



Wolfgang October 20th, 2005 12:12 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Connaisseur wrote:
"Lionel F. Stevenson" schreef in bericht
...

We have sea run rainbows here. Nobody calls them Steelhead.

Is there a difference? Do they look different?

-- Lionel




A Rainbow is a landlocked Steelhead...;-))


Precisely. Like, for example, the landlocked rainbow "steelhead" trout in
the Great Lakes. :-)


Oh, lookee! The stupid boy is begging!

Hee, hee, hee.

Wolfgang
come on now, really, can ANYBODY still doubt that the maggot just WILL NOT
learn? :)



Mike Connor October 20th, 2005 12:22 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"JDOE" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
SNIP
What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?

--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.


Anadromous = Migrating from the sea to fresh water to spawn.

Therefore, an anadromous rainbow is a steelhead.

If it donīt, then it ainīt.

TL
MC



Jeff Miller October 20th, 2005 12:52 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 
Mike Connor wrote:


If it donīt, then it ainīt.


well gawdam and hellfire, proof certain. ...i knew you musta had a bit
of southern in ya! g makes a north carolina feller born in england
damn proud!

jeff

Frank Reid October 20th, 2005 02:55 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 
Anadromous = Migrating from the sea to fresh water to spawn.

Therefore, an anadromous rainbow is a steelhead.


runs from snow to London and you don't wanna know about the spawn thing

Androngenous rainbow = Boy George


--
Frank Reid
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JR October 20th, 2005 03:19 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 
JDOE wrote:
In article ,
"Connaisseur" wrote:

A Rainbow is a landlocked Steelhead...;-))


What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?


Actually, it's a steelhead that could go out to ocean but doesn't. ;)

The common names are great sources of confusion; they only reflect
different "life forms," different "life history traits" of the species,
and these are far from immutable.

From the evolutionary perspective, a rainbow *is* a resident steelhead,
in the sense that the anadromous life form came first. Some populations
have become landlocked over time, due to geological changes. Others are
not physically landlocked, but although they have access to the sea,
they don't go. It is not unknown--where there are both resident and
anadromous populations of O. mykiss in the same river--for the offspring
of "steelhead" to remain resident and offspring of resident fish to
smolt and migrate to sea.

Bill McKee October 20th, 2005 06:18 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"JDOE" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
"Bill McKee" wrote:

"Connaisseur" wrote in message
.. .

"Lionel F. Stevenson" schreef in bericht
...
We have sea run rainbows here. Nobody calls them Steelhead.

Is there a difference? Do they look different?

-- Lionel



A Rainbow is a landlocked Steelhead...;-))


California considers a rainbow in the ocean connected river a rainbow if
less than 24". Steelhead if over 24"



You are wrong. I have a california steelhead report card and its 16
inches not 24 inches. And california does NOT *consider that* a
steelhead. It just considers it for reporting issues.

--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.


Me bad. they do consider it a steel head in anadromous waters.
Section `174 of the regs.



For

purposes of this regulation, a steelhead trout is defined as any rainbow
trout greater

than 16 inches in length found in anadromous waters.





riverman October 20th, 2005 07:06 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 
What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?




Actually, it's a steelhead that could go out to ocean but doesn't


Sounds like a country-mouse/city-mouse kinda thing. Or maybe that old
Gloria Steinham adage that "all men are potential rapists". All
rainbows are potential steelhead.

--riverman
(somewhere in there, this is germaine...)


Bill McKee October 20th, 2005 07:37 AM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"riverman" wrote in message
ups.com...
What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?




Actually, it's a steelhead that could go out to ocean but doesn't


Sounds like a country-mouse/city-mouse kinda thing. Or maybe that old
Gloria Steinham adage that "all men are potential rapists". All
rainbows are potential steelhead.

--riverman
(somewhere in there, this is germaine...)


NZ rainbows were originally Russian River of California Steelhead.



Wolfgang October 20th, 2005 12:01 PM

RAINBOW? STEELHEAD?
 

"riverman" wrote in message
ups.com...
What is resident rainbow in a anadronymous waterway then? A rainbow
that could go out to ocean but doesnt?




Actually, it's a steelhead that could go out to ocean but doesn't


Sounds like a country-mouse/city-mouse kinda thing.


One of the most instructive parables of all time. It cannot be an accident
that virtually all cultures have some sort of analog of it. And it cannot
but be disheartening that its persistence bespeaks the sad truth that the
lesson needs to be taught over and over and over.........

Or maybe that old
Gloria Steinham adage that "all men are potential rapists".


And she was right, all men ARE potential rapists......um, in
theory......well, if you apply the right theory......and definition.

All rainbows are potential steelhead.


Exactly.....well, in the same sense that all girls born in the United States
(and/or of parents who are United States citizens) are potential presidents.

--riverman
(somewhere in there, this is germaine...)


I'd bet a shiny new nickel on the proposition that she's heard THAT one
before. :)

Wolfgang




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