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Sarge October 14th, 2005 04:54 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Lionel

Try www.mudhole.com for some components.

This custom rod maker is having a sale right now. I believe it ends this
weekend. I signed up for his promotions. Try calling him at
Toll Free: 877-266-3738 M-F 9am-5pm. They are about 50% off.
http://www.bonerrods.com/
I bought a spinning rod form him and I love the way it handles pulling in
the bull reds.


Sarge



rw October 14th, 2005 08:47 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.


That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)

I believe that when you buy a premium brand or even a middle brand fly
rod, what you're largely paying for are three things: the warranty, the
brand image, and the certainty of what you'll end up with.

That said, I wouldn't recommend building your own rod unless you have
time to spare and some curiosity about the process. I'd also recommend
building two or more rods at the same time, to minimize overhead on
things like tools, thread, epoxy, etc., and also to maximize on the
second and succeeding rods the skills you learn when building the first one.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Ken Fortenberry October 14th, 2005 09:04 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.



That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)


I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty. Rolling your
own sounds less expensive but it's a false economy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang October 14th, 2005 09:12 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.



That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)


I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty.


Why?

Rolling your
own sounds less expensive but it's a false economy.


Why?

Is it false economy to do your own fishing?

Wolfgang
who, ever helpful, will be glad to negotiate terms for anyone needing
someone else to fish for him or her.



Tim J. October 14th, 2005 09:16 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Ken Fortenberry typed:
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.


That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)


I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty. Rolling your
own sounds less expensive but it's a false economy.


It's the building process itself and the satisfaction of rolling your own
that makes it appealing. If labor charges were added, each one of the flies
I tie would be a $10.00 item, and that doesn't take into account that I'm
nowhere near break-even on the materials.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Tim J. October 14th, 2005 09:17 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Wolfgang typed:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.


That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your
own rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and
Hackle. (I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)


I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty.


Why?

Rolling your
own sounds less expensive but it's a false economy.


Why?

Is it false economy to do your own fishing?

Wolfgang
who, ever helpful, will be glad to negotiate terms for anyone needing
someone else to fish for him or her.


Based on your most recent reports, the cost per fish would be out of my
price range. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Wolfgang October 14th, 2005 09:24 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Wolfgang typed:


Wolfgang...will be glad to negotiate terms for anyone needing
someone else to fish for him or her.


Based on your most recent reports, the cost per fish would be out of my
price range. ;-)


I have it from a reliable source that you tie $10.00 flies. You can
certainly afford my services. :)

Wolfgang



Ken Fortenberry October 14th, 2005 09:54 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Tim J. wrote:
Ken Fortenberry typed:
I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty. Rolling your
own sounds less expensive but it's a false economy.


It's the building process itself and the satisfaction of rolling your own
that makes it appealing. If labor charges were added, each one of the flies
I tie would be a $10.00 item, and that doesn't take into account that I'm
nowhere near break-even on the materials.


Exactly. Tying isn't cheaper than buying and rolling your own
isn't cheaper than buying off the rack, all things considered.
Yet we do both anyway. Go figure. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw October 14th, 2005 10:07 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

rw wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.




That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)



I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty.


What's your hourly rate these days?

Also, how many rods have you built?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

BJ Conner October 14th, 2005 10:18 PM

ROD BUILDING?
 

rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

rw wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Quite right. A custom built rod will always be *more* expensive
than a factory rod built on the same blank. You *cannot* save
money by building the rod yourself. What you can do is use nicer
components and find the spine and otherwise fine tune the rod
to your tastes but you don't build 'em yourself to save money.
You build 'em yourself for other reasons.



That's false. You can save a great deal of money by building your own
rod, especially if you look for deals at places like Hook and Hackle.
(I'm assuming you're not counting your labor, of course.)



I'm counting the cost of labor and the warranty.


What's your hourly rate these days?

Also, how many rods have you built?


You have to consider the opportunity cost and avoided cost. If he
wasn't buidling a rod he might be at some left wing pinko
deomonstratoin getting whacked in the head by a policeman. Even an
expensive rod is cheap by comparison.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.




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