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Dave LaCourse November 19th, 2005 05:04 PM

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:00:58 GMT, rw
wrote:

I'm not bitching and moaning. I'm merely stating a fact. If you don't
like it, too bad.


It's not a question of liking it or not. YOU could do something, yet
you don't. That's bitchin and moanin in my book. Now, if you don't
like my position, too bad.



Wolfgang November 19th, 2005 09:17 PM

a sense of perspective
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:00:58 GMT, rw
wrote:

I'm not bitching and moaning. I'm merely stating a fact. If you don't
like it, too bad.


It's not a question of liking it or not. YOU could do something, yet
you don't. That's bitchin and moanin in my book. Now, if you don't
like my position, too bad.


Hm.......

You know, a boy almost has to wonder what it is about a simple expression of
concern about other human beings......and especially children.....that
invariably causes the tops of yours and dicklet's heads to blow off.

Um......seriously.......right, dicklet? :)

Wolfgang



Dave LaCourse November 20th, 2005 02:57 AM

a sense of perspective
 
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:17:31 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

You know, a boy almost has to wonder what it is about a simple expression of
concern about other human beings....


Could it be because you bitch and moan and never come up with an
original idea on how to help them, or even put your money where your
mouth is? Is that what's botherin' ya, Binky?



rw November 20th, 2005 03:07 AM

a sense of perspective
 
Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:17:31 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


You know, a boy almost has to wonder what it is about a simple expression of
concern about other human beings....



Could it be because you bitch and moan and never come up with an
original idea on how to help them, or even put your money where your
mouth is? Is that what's botherin' ya, Binky?


Here's an idea: Stop the pointless, bloody, no-exit-strategy,
based-on-lies war in Iraq, bring our troops home, and have hundreds of
billions of dollars per year to spend on stuff that's actually valuable.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang November 20th, 2005 03:11 AM

a sense of perspective
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:17:31 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

You know, a boy almost has to wonder what it is about a simple expression
of
concern about other human beings....


Could it be because you bitch and moan and never come up with an
original idea on how to help them, or even put your money where your
mouth is? Is that what's botherin' ya, Binky?


Well, if you call raucous laughter a sign of bother, then that's me all
over, sarge.

Wolfgang
but then, it ain't MY evil grandchildren turning on the spit out in the back
yard.......ainna? :)



vincent p. norris November 20th, 2005 03:18 AM

a sense of perspective
 
stunning, isn't it. wonder what we could do in the education field with
those funds?


Our society is hugely wasteful in the private sector, too, Jeff. I'm
retired now, so my data are not the latest; but I'll bet it's still
true, as it was 20-30 years ago, that we spend more money on
advertising every year than on all of higher education.

(Think of the thousands of poor kids we could send to college with the
money spent just on tobacco advertising!)

During the first decade of the space program, when we sent a man to to
moon and back, we spent five times as much on advertising as on the
space program.

Some of it (e.g., the Yellow Pages) served a useful purpose; most of
it served no socially-useful purpose at all. It merely enabled the
advertisers to reap monopoly profits.

vince

Dave LaCourse November 20th, 2005 03:19 AM

a sense of perspective
 
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:07:38 GMT, rw
wrote:

Here's an idea: Stop the pointless, bloody, no-exit-strategy,
based-on-lies war in Iraq, bring our troops home, and have hundreds of
billions of dollars per year to spend on stuff that's actually valuable.


Like I said: Come up with an original idea and put your money where
your mouth is. Don't rely on the guvment to solve all of your
"problems." Act on your own, Steve. DO SOMETHING!



rw November 20th, 2005 03:22 AM

a sense of perspective
 
Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:07:38 GMT, rw
wrote:


Here's an idea: Stop the pointless, bloody, no-exit-strategy,
based-on-lies war in Iraq, bring our troops home, and have hundreds of
billions of dollars per year to spend on stuff that's actually valuable.



Like I said: Come up with an original idea and put your money where
your mouth is. Don't rely on the guvment to solve all of your
"problems." Act on your own, Steve. DO SOMETHING!


GWB and his cronies have driven the bus into the ditch. Someone has to
get it out.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang November 20th, 2005 03:56 AM

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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
...
stunning, isn't it. wonder what we could do in the education field with
those funds?


Our society is hugely wasteful in the private sector, too, Jeff. I'm
retired now, so my data are not the latest; but I'll bet it's still
true, as it was 20-30 years ago, that we spend more money on
advertising every year than on all of higher education.

(Think of the thousands of poor kids we could send to college with the
money spent just on tobacco advertising!)

During the first decade of the space program, when we sent a man to to
moon and back, we spent five times as much on advertising as on the
space program.

Some of it (e.g., the Yellow Pages) served a useful purpose; most of
it served no socially-useful purpose at all. It merely enabled the
advertisers to reap monopoly profits.


I think that depends on who you mean by "the advertisers". If it's the
folks paying for the advertising, it's debatable at best. While there have
certainly been cases of monopolies (or near monopolies) reaping profits
attributable at least in part to successful advertising campaigns (Roland
Marchand's "AT&T: The Vision of a Loved Monopoly"* is an excellent treatment
of just such a case), it is more often the case that vast ad budgets benefit
the producers and distributors at least as much.....if not much more
than.....those paying for it. Moreover, those huge budgets are typically
the provenance of companies locked in deadly competition with equally (or
near enough) large and prosperous (and all too often indistinguishable)
opponents........Coke-Pepsi.......Ford-GM.....Miller-Anheuser Busch.....the
various tobacco companies, etc.

Wolfgang
* in "Colossus: How the Corporation Changed America", Jack Beatty (ed.),
Broadway Books, New York, 2001, pp. 179-205.



Charlie Wilson November 20th, 2005 05:12 AM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I'm surprised to hear you coming out in favor of socialized
medicine. I think it's a ****ing disgrace that we don't have
it in this country already.


Considering the influence and power wielded by the pharmaceutical
companies, HMO's, and a large percentage of AMA members, we are just as
likely to see socialized oil production.




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