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Roger Ritter February 7th, 2006 04:23 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
Hi Frank,

The Marryat Plus does not have a multiplier. Multipliers use gears which
would make the reel heavier and a little bit more unreliable.

However the spool has a fairly large arbor and the handle is offset towards
the center for quick wrist retrieval. If you combine the two you get a very
high retrieval rate, keeping the reel light and reliable.

This reel has been on the market for over a year now and many famous
fishermen have tested it already such as Marc Petitjean and Nick Pujic. You
can have a look at some nice pictures at:

www.marryat.com/picture.htm

If you have serious interest in testing the reel, I would be glad to send
you one. Usually what I expect in return is a field report which you could
post in this newsgroup and a nice photo of a BIG fish you caught. Angler
Sport Group (www.anglersportgroup.com) is our distributor in the USA and can
arrange the demo for you. Please contact Rick at: 585-757-9958.

Or if you are feeling lucky, you can go to Fly Anglers Online
(www.flyanglersonline.com) and win the free drawing of the month: The
Marryat Plus.

Marryat,

Roger Ritter
Inventor of the Marryat Plus


For more information:
www.marryat.com




"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...
Okay, I'll "bite." At the end of the month, I will be moving to an
area of the US more known for carp than trout. When I lived there
last, I looked for, but could not find, an affordable quality
anti-reverse, multiplier fly reel. Carp are notorious for huge runs
right at you and then a quick turn to the side, hence the desire for
the above mentioned real.
Questions: Does this reel come in a multiplier form? If you fight a
fish from the reel, the multiplier format would be to your advantage.
Anti-reverse and multiplier would seem to be the optimal marriage.
How does the anti-reverse set up work with fine tippets? I am familiar
with anti-reverse reels in a baitcaster format. When using an
anti-reverse baitcaster I would normally put on a higher breaking
strength line. With this "graduated" anti-reverse, is there a setting
that would ensure you do not put on so much pressure that your would
break your tippet? If its just "feel" then I could imagine a lot of
break offs due to the extra adrenaline imparted by a big fish.
Thanks in advance. Would like to give this system a test run on some
of the big carp in Omaha.
Frank Reid




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Frank Reid February 7th, 2006 05:36 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
Well,
I also write for Fly Anglers Online, more in the humor vein. Saw
your post over there too. Will contact anglers sport group and give it
a try.
Frank Reid


Calif Bill February 7th, 2006 08:07 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
You should adjust the drag for the line, and not touch it again. If it is
adusted properly, why adjust it? Unless the fish is going to spool you, and
it is a last desparate effort, more fish are lost because of somebody
deciding the drag is wrong during the fight.

"Roger Ritter" wrote in message
...
Hi Calif,

It takes a little more than just one roller clutch bearing to make a
reliable anti reverse reel, but I agree with you that there are anti
reverse reels in this market that are very reliable, but people who are
used to fish with DD reels somehow think that the extra AR mechanism gives
a higher risk for failure. This is not the main point.

The biggest disadvantage of an AR reel is that line can go off the reel
while you are reeling in and you constantly have to adjust the drag in a
time when you need to concentrate in front where the action is. People
like to pre adjust the drag only once per day. With the Marryat Plus you
can decide if you want to remain in anti reverse mode or you squeeze the
handle to put it in DD mode and pump the rod and retrieve the line. This
is definitely an advantage towards a standard AR reel.

Marryat,

Roger Ritter
Inventor of the Marryat Plus


For more information:
www.marryat.com



"Calif Bill" wrote:

If your reel is as good as your statements, it is crap. Anti reverse
reels require one bearing is all to generate the anti-reverse. A bearing
type that has been made for years and acts like a clutch.

"Roger Ritter" wrote in message
...
Anti reverse reels are known to be heavy, unreliable because they have
too many small delicate moving parts, it is hard to tell if the line is
coming in or going out while you are cranking and you waist energy
winding against the drag. whereas direct drive reels can beat up your
knuckles and snap the tippet if you do not pay attention.

Marryat has developed a new generation anti reverse/direct drive fly
reel which progressively adds drag when you squeeze the handle; enough
to lock it making the switch from anti reverse to direct drive, allowing
you to pump the rod and retrieve line. As soon as you release the
fingertip pressure the drag automatically goes back to the initial
setting which is usually set fairly low ready for the strike. Your hand
always remains on the handle and you instinctively control this reel
with the tip of you fingers.

This "Swiss Made" fly reel is built with the minimum amount of parts
making it highly reliable and very lightweight.

I would be glad to answer any questions.

Marryat,

Roger Ritter
Inventor of the Marryat Plus





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rw February 7th, 2006 08:39 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
Calif Bill wrote:
You should adjust the drag for the line, and not touch it again. If it is
adusted properly, why adjust it? Unless the fish is going to spool you, and
it is a last desparate effort, more fish are lost because of somebody
deciding the drag is wrong during the fight.


I disagree. If you're fishing heavy tippet and the drag is adjusted to
that strength, it's hard to strip line from the reel. A tight drag also
interferes with the hookup. If I hook up on a big fish I'll first try to
get it on the reel (with plenty of bend in the rod), and then I'll
tighten the drag.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Roger Ritter February 7th, 2006 09:34 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 

"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Calif Bill wrote:
You should adjust the drag for the line, and not touch it again. If it
is adusted properly, why adjust it? Unless the fish is going to spool
you, and it is a last desparate effort, more fish are lost because of
somebody deciding the drag is wrong during the fight.


I disagree. If you're fishing heavy tippet and the drag is adjusted to
that strength, it's hard to strip line from the reel. A tight drag also
interferes with the hookup. If I hook up on a big fish I'll first try to
get it on the reel (with plenty of bend in the rod), and then I'll tighten
the drag.

--


Yes, and this is what the Marryat Plus is all about:

You preset the drag fairly low to be able to easily strip off the line and
ready for the hookup and first run or two, then you start squeezing the
handle allowing you to pump the rod and retrieve line. If you feel the fish
is going to take another run you simple release the pressure of your finger
tips. However if the fish starts to get tired you squeeze the handle again
and you can force the fish in.

During all of this action, your hand always remained on the handle therefore
you can concentrate in front where the action is and no fumbling to adjust
the preset drag knob which is in the center of the reel.

Marryat,

Roger Ritter
Inventor of the Marryat Plus


For more information:
www.marryat.com



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Wolfgang February 7th, 2006 11:13 PM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 

"Roger Ritter" wrote in message
...

"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Calif Bill wrote:
You should adjust the drag for the line, and not touch it again. If it
is adusted properly, why adjust it? Unless the fish is going to spool
you, and it is a last desparate effort, more fish are lost because of
somebody deciding the drag is wrong during the fight.


I disagree. If you're fishing heavy tippet and the drag is adjusted to
that strength, it's hard to strip line from the reel. A tight drag also
interferes with the hookup. If I hook up on a big fish I'll first try to
get it on the reel (with plenty of bend in the rod), and then I'll
tighten the drag.

--


Yes, and this is what the Marryat Plus is all about:

You preset the drag fairly low to be able to easily strip off the line and
ready for the hookup and first run or two, then you start squeezing the
handle allowing you to pump the rod and retrieve line. If you feel the
fish is going to take another run you simple release the pressure of your
finger tips. However if the fish starts to get tired you squeeze the
handle again and you can force the fish in.

During all of this action, your hand always remained on the handle
therefore you can concentrate in front where the action is and no fumbling
to adjust the preset drag knob which is in the center of the reel.



Roger Ritter


Hm......

How about a winch.......how much do you get for a simple 1 ton winch?

Wolfgang
who already has all the clorox® he needs.



rw February 8th, 2006 03:44 AM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
Roger Ritter wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...

I disagree. If you're fishing heavy tippet and the drag is adjusted to
that strength, it's hard to strip line from the reel. A tight drag also
interferes with the hookup. If I hook up on a big fish I'll first try to
get it on the reel (with plenty of bend in the rod), and then I'll tighten
the drag.

--



Yes, and this is what the Marryat Plus is all about:


I don't know anything about the Marryat Plus, but I'd be more than happy
to try one. It sounds marvelous. There's a trip coming up in May that
would be perfect -- big dogs. I can send you my mailing address if
necessary. :-)

I want to be more clear about why a tight drag interferes with the
hookup. Normally, it doesn't really, because normally you hookup with
some slack line. The problem arises when the slack line is played out,
or reeled in, and you get the fish on the reel. A tight drag causes a
shock -- a spike in the stress on the tippet. Shocks are what you must
avoid. Shocks cause break offs and pull outs and rod breakages. That's
why your rod should be well bent over (but not too far bent over) when
you get the fish on the reel -- it absorbs the shock.

I'd rather palm the reel when I get the fish onto it, and then tighten
the drag. Maybe the Marryat Plus makes that approach obsolete.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

JR February 8th, 2006 03:53 AM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 
Roger Ritter wrote:

..... whereas direct drive reels can beat up your knuckles and snap the
tippet if you do not pay attention.


Rather than buy another reel, I believe I'll just pay attention.

Roger Ritter February 8th, 2006 08:22 AM

Anti reverse AND direct drive?
 

I disagree. If you're fishing heavy tippet and the drag is adjusted to
that strength, it's hard to strip line from the reel. A tight drag also
interferes with the hookup. If I hook up on a big fish I'll first try to
get it on the reel (with plenty of bend in the rod), and then I'll
tighten the drag.

--



Yes, and this is what the Marryat Plus is all about:


I don't know anything about the Marryat Plus, but I'd be more than happy
to try one. It sounds marvelous. There's a trip coming up in May that
would be perfect -- big dogs. I can send you my mailing address if
necessary. :-)

I want to be more clear about why a tight drag interferes with the hookup.
Normally, it doesn't really, because normally you hookup with some slack
line. The problem arises when the slack line is played out, or reeled in,
and you get the fish on the reel. A tight drag causes a shock -- a spike
in the stress on the tippet. Shocks are what you must avoid. Shocks cause
break offs and pull outs and rod breakages. That's why your rod should be
well bent over (but not too far bent over) when you get the fish on the
reel -- it absorbs the shock.

I'd rather palm the reel when I get the fish onto it, and then tighten the
drag. Maybe the Marryat Plus makes that approach obsolete.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


You can squeeze the handle progressively, the more you squeeze the more you
drag. It's not like an on/off system; therefore you don't need to palm the
reel anymore. However the Marryat Plus comes with rim control for those who
are used to palming and need time to get used to squeezing the handle.

Another big advantage is if you are pumping the rod by squeezing the handle
and cranking the line and suddenly the fish make a huge jump and starts
shaking his head, you simple release the fingertip pressure and the drag
instantly goes back to the preset low setting and instead of causing a shock
as described above the line is released from the spool and once the
situation has calmed down you start squeezing and pumping again.

Marryat,

Roger Ritter
Inventor of the Marryat Plus


For more information:
www.marryat.com




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