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jeff June 21st, 2006 01:02 PM

Q&A BPAM, with the author,
 
RalphH wrote:

it was a joke ralph...just poking fun at some others, not your friend erik.

jeff

[email protected] June 21st, 2006 03:26 PM

Q&A BPAM, with the author,
 
On 20 Jun 2006 18:56:14 -0700, wrote:

Colorado, AFAIK, has no "Flyfishing Only" sections but has "flies and
lures only" regulations on many waters. Its interesting that you noted
the 'reputation' issues of a private fishery because I think it's clear
that there are no sound reasons for flyfishing only regulations based
biology alone.


The problem with respect to resident salmonids is that flyfishing is
too effective; the expected catch rate is too high. Congestion and
sublethal impacts can be significant on systems where the vast majority
of the effort is flyfishing.


Are there _no_ FFing-only (or "artificial flies only") stretches in CO
anymore? At least one stretch that I knew of, the East River at/near
Gunnison was/is? flies only, but ??? The signage says/said "Flyfishing
Only." And it's at a hatchery to the Taylor, IIRC.

TC,
R

[email protected] June 21st, 2006 07:32 PM

Q&A BPAM, with the author,
 

wrote:
On 20 Jun 2006 18:56:14 -0700,
wrote:

Colorado, AFAIK, has no "Flyfishing Only" sections but has "flies and
lures only" regulations on many waters. Its interesting that you noted
the 'reputation' issues of a private fishery because I think it's clear
that there are no sound reasons for flyfishing only regulations based
biology alone.


The problem with respect to resident salmonids is that flyfishing is
too effective; the expected catch rate is too high. Congestion and
sublethal impacts can be significant on systems where the vast majority
of the effort is flyfishing.


Are there _no_ FFing-only (or "artificial flies only") stretches in CO
anymore? At least one stretch that I knew of, the East River at/near
Gunnison was/is? flies only, but ??? The signage says/said "Flyfishing
Only." And it's at a hatchery to the Taylor, IIRC.


I believe I recall seeing these signs as as well but I do not believe
that they are on waters managed by Colorado State DOW. Does anyone
know?

It almost would have to because the CDOW has no *definition* for
"Flyfishing" that I am aware of. In the Definitions section they list:
"Artificial Flies and Lures". Further, in the special restriction
section they only mention "fishing shall be by artificial flies and
lures only" section. This is reasonable, IMO, because it does away with
some of the distinctions that are completely unnecessary WRT the
management of the fishery as it pertains to the health of the fishery,
per se. It is very common, and effective, for example, to fish a fly on
a spinning rod with a clear plastic bubble in both lakes and streams.
If the section on the East said "Flyfishing Only" than it would be as
legal to use a small Rapala, plug or flatfish, on a Fly Rod as well as
a Wooley Booger on a spinning rod.

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer
A cash flow runs through it.


[email protected] June 21st, 2006 07:44 PM

Q&A BPAM, with the author,
 
On 21 Jun 2006 11:32:21 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
On 20 Jun 2006 18:56:14 -0700,
wrote:

Colorado, AFAIK, has no "Flyfishing Only" sections but has "flies and
lures only" regulations on many waters. Its interesting that you noted
the 'reputation' issues of a private fishery because I think it's clear
that there are no sound reasons for flyfishing only regulations based
biology alone.

The problem with respect to resident salmonids is that flyfishing is
too effective; the expected catch rate is too high. Congestion and
sublethal impacts can be significant on systems where the vast majority
of the effort is flyfishing.


Are there _no_ FFing-only (or "artificial flies only") stretches in CO
anymore? At least one stretch that I knew of, the East River at/near
Gunnison was/is? flies only, but ??? The signage says/said "Flyfishing
Only." And it's at a hatchery to the Taylor, IIRC.


I believe I recall seeing these signs as as well but I do not believe
that they are on waters managed by Colorado State DOW. Does anyone
know?

"Artificial Flies Only" is/used to be on parts of the Gunnison near
Gunnison and around the hill on the Roaring Fork near Woody Creek/Aspen,
too, if anyone is familiar with those. I've never worried about as I
use, um, an artificial fly and a fly rod, but ???

TC,
R


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