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Alaskan420 June 24th, 2006 01:53 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 
Glad you're doing well.


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Ric Hamel
A misplaced Alaskan lost in ConUS



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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:42:51 GMT, "Alaskan420"
wrote:

Yup. I doubt hollering "hey bear" a few times would have chased him away.
BTW Dave, did you say 15 feet?


You saw the pictures. Yes, 15 feet from a feeding sow and her cubs.

You will notice in all that I have said that the bears, regardless
their size, were not interested in us because they had plenty to eat
with the salmon. Plus, the salmon eating bears of Katmai are used to
seeing humans. That big honker was looking for food and there aren't
too many salmon around in late October. People make wonderful snacks
at that time of the year. Also, the picture of the half eaten man has
nothing to do with the big bear shown in the photos. Barnard would
like everyone to think that the bear pictured killed said man. Ain't
true. Two entirely different cases.

It does bring out one funny thing (besides the phony picture
connection) that bear spray and a pistol are not going to help you
avoiid death. You run into a monster like that, you can kiss your ass
goodbye unless you have a hunting rifle.

Dave
Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.










rw June 24th, 2006 01:57 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 
wrote:

Dave
Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.


Nobody's perfect.

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Wolfgang June 24th, 2006 03:44 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 

wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:42:51 GMT, "Alaskan420"
wrote:

Yup. I doubt hollering "hey bear" a few times would have chased him away.
BTW Dave, did you say 15 feet?


You saw the pictures. Yes, 15 feet from a feeding sow and her cubs.

You will notice in all that I have said that the bears, regardless
their size, were not interested in us because they had plenty to eat
with the salmon. Plus, the salmon eating bears of Katmai are used to
seeing humans. That big honker was looking for food and there aren't
too many salmon around in late October. People make wonderful snacks
at that time of the year. Also, the picture of the half eaten man has
nothing to do with the big bear shown in the photos. Barnard would
like everyone to think that the bear pictured killed said man. Ain't
true. Two entirely different cases.

It does bring out one funny thing (besides the phony picture
connection) that bear spray and a pistol are not going to help you
avoiid death. You run into a monster like that, you can kiss your ass
goodbye unless you have a hunting rifle.


You really don't have even a fuzzy notion of what a bear is, do you?

Criminally stupid.

Dave
Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.


Perhaps the first true words you posted here.

Wolfgang


[email protected] June 24th, 2006 03:54 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 
On 23 Jun 2006 19:44:35 -0700, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Perhaps the first true words you posted here.


d;o)
But Fortenberry and I don't *smell* like an asshole. You do.



Wolfgang June 24th, 2006 04:13 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 

wrote:
On 23 Jun 2006 19:44:35 -0700, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Perhaps the first true words you posted here.


d;o)
But Fortenberry and I don't *smell* like an asshole. You do.


Neither of you sad fools has even a fuzzy notion of what personal
integrity is, do you?

Wolfgang


Alaskan420 June 24th, 2006 04:25 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 

"rw" wrote in message
k.net...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


There is another reason to doubt the truthfulness of picture #3. Alaskan
Browns have this funny habit of burying their kills for a few days to
ferment the meat and then circling around their territory and coming back
3-4 days later after it's cooked to taste. ( See Bear Spray recipe.) I have
run across numerous mounds over the years with moose calves and smaller
adult moose in them.

This hiker actually looks more like what would be expcted of a wolf attack,
(not to cross threads here), or immature brown, unless the photo was taken
after rescuers began to prepare him for removal.


--
Ric Hamel
A misplaced Alaskan lost in ConUS





[email protected] June 24th, 2006 01:35 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 
On 23 Jun 2006 20:13:22 -0700, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Neither of you sad fools has even a fuzzy notion of what personal
integrity is, do you?


Bwwwaaaahahahahahahaha. Coming from you, that is the funniest, most
hilarious thing ever posted on roff. Two phunny.



[email protected] June 24th, 2006 01:44 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:25:07 GMT, "Alaskan420"
wrote:

This hiker actually looks more like what would be expcted of a wolf attack,
(not to cross threads here), or immature brown, unless the photo was taken
after rescuers began to prepare him for removal.


The folks I've talked to about bear in Alaska say that most of what we
see are immature (3 or 4 year olds), and that they can be far more
unpredictable than an aged adult. I don't know whether that's true or
not. We never saw any bear bigger than about 800 pounds (guesstimated
by a knowledgeable guide). Still, something that is almost four times
bigger than me is a little more than I want to hazzle with. d;o(



Wolfgang June 25th, 2006 02:05 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 

Alaskan420 wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
k.net...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


There is another reason to doubt the truthfulness of picture #3. Alaskan
Browns have this funny habit of burying their kills for a few days to
ferment the meat and then circling around their territory and coming back
3-4 days later after it's cooked to taste. ( See Bear Spray recipe.) I have
run across numerous mounds over the years with moose calves and smaller
adult moose in them.

This hiker actually looks more like what would be expcted of a wolf attack,
(not to cross threads here), or immature brown, unless the photo was taken
after rescuers began to prepare him for removal.


Hm.......

Exactly how many wolf-chewed human carcasses have you seen?

Wolfgang


Alaskan420 June 25th, 2006 03:26 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
ups.com...

Alaskan420 wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
k.net...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


There is another reason to doubt the truthfulness of picture #3.

Alaskan
Browns have this funny habit of burying their kills for a few days to
ferment the meat and then circling around their territory and coming

back
3-4 days later after it's cooked to taste. ( See Bear Spray recipe.) I

have
run across numerous mounds over the years with moose calves and smaller
adult moose in them.

This hiker actually looks more like what would be expcted of a wolf

attack,
(not to cross threads here), or immature brown, unless the photo was

taken
after rescuers began to prepare him for removal.


Hm.......

Exactly how many wolf-chewed human carcasses have you seen?

Wolfgang


Hm.......

I'm not certain why the quantity of observations is relevant unless of
course it took you several attempts at observing a rainbow and a catfish
side by side to be able to tell the difference, but seeing as you asked...

That photo would be the 3rd human. However, the source of the meal, (human
or otherwise), has very little to do with how they attack and devour. I
have seen several dozen moose and caribou that had been killed. Bears and
wolves have very distinct methods of killing and eating that leave obvious
evidence indicating the attacker.

Your sarcasm is appreciated though. Always good for a chuckle.


--
Ric Hamel
A misplaced Alaskan lost in ConUS




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