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Bob La Londe July 18th, 2006 02:53 AM

testers needed
 
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the kinami and matches the
forage better.


Meant to say I use a Tiki Stick in this color because its lighter than the
Kinamis and falls slower.


When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title "The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


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Bob La Londe July 18th, 2006 02:54 AM

testers needed
 
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin Tiki
Stick with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the Kinami and matches the
forage better.

When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title "The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


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www.YumaBassMan.com


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Rich P wrote:
I'd be happy to help you out there Randy. Do you still know how to
contact
me?

Rich P


Sorry Rich, all old e-mail addy's have bit the dust two computers ago.
Anyone that's interested should send me a private e-mail, so I can keep
you updated of anything.



Randy-




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Joe Haubenreich July 18th, 2006 03:04 AM

testers needed
 
Yes, that advice is all well and good for tentative bass. But what do you
reach for when the bass turn and gaze at you thoughtfully.... Hmmmmmm?

Joe
---------------
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin Tiki
Stick with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the Kinami and matches the
forage better.

When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title "The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Rich P wrote:
I'd be happy to help you out there Randy. Do you still know how to
contact
me?

Rich P


Sorry Rich, all old e-mail addy's have bit the dust two computers ago.
Anyone that's interested should send me a private e-mail, so I can keep
you updated of anything.



Randy-




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Bob La Londe July 18th, 2006 04:46 AM

testers needed
 

"Joe Haubenreich" wrote in
message . ..
Yes, that advice is all well and good for tentative bass. But what do you
reach for when the bass turn and gaze at you thoughtfully.... Hmmmmmm?


Two things. I'll either goto a drop shot rig and jiggle it in their face,
or I'll stay with the senko and jerk it away from them when they even look
in its direction. That reaction strike works very well.


Joe
---------------
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin Tiki
Stick with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the Kinami and matches the
forage better.

When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title "The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Rich P wrote:
I'd be happy to help you out there Randy. Do you still know how to
contact
me?

Rich P


Sorry Rich, all old e-mail addy's have bit the dust two computers ago.
Anyone that's interested should send me a private e-mail, so I can keep
you updated of anything.



Randy-




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Bob La Londe July 18th, 2006 05:42 AM

testers needed
 
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

"Joe Haubenreich" wrote in
message . ..
Yes, that advice is all well and good for tentative bass. But what do you
reach for when the bass turn and gaze at you thoughtfully.... Hmmmmmm?


Two things. I'll either goto a drop shot rig and jiggle it in their face,
or I'll stay with the senko and jerk it away from them when they even look
in its direction. That reaction strike works very well.


Lastly, if they just won't move I'll go out and bang crank baits off trees.
Spinner baits work too, but not many people will throw a crank bait out and
slam it through underwater tree branches. Its an edge in some conditions
that I don't mind losing a crank or two, and if that doesn't work I'll go
back and put that drop shot in through the tree branches.



Joe
---------------
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red
Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin Tiki
Stick with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the Kinami and matches the
forage better.

When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title
"The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Rich P wrote:
I'd be happy to help you out there Randy. Do you still know how to
contact
me?

Rich P

Sorry Rich, all old e-mail addy's have bit the dust two computers ago.
Anyone that's interested should send me a private e-mail, so I can keep
you updated of anything.



Randy-




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Joe Haubenreich July 18th, 2006 11:49 AM

testers needed
 
I admire your spirit, Bob. Swing for the fences! Successful anglers have to
be willing to lose a few lures sometimes in order to go into the thickest of
cover to root out bass that hunker down there. The theory is that you'll
expose your lures where few others have been seen, which is supposed to
provide an advantage. In fact, I think you're just reaching back into the
preferred hiding and ambush areas where the alpha bass lurk.

Joe
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

"Joe Haubenreich" wrote in
message . ..
Yes, that advice is all well and good for tentative bass. But what do you
reach for when the bass turn and gaze at you thoughtfully.... Hmmmmmm?


Two things. I'll either goto a drop shot rig and jiggle it in their face,
or I'll stay with the senko and jerk it away from them when they even look
in its direction. That reaction strike works very well.


Lastly, if they just won't move I'll go out and bang crank baits off trees.
Spinner baits work too, but not many people will throw a crank bait out and
slam it through underwater tree branches. Its an edge in some conditions
that I don't mind losing a crank or two, and if that doesn't work I'll go
back and put that drop shot in through the tree branches.



Joe
---------------
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
My goto bait is a 5" (5.5"?) Kinami flash in Baby Bass.

I also use their Natural Shad Color in ultra clear water, and the Red
Shad
in very stained water or low light conditions.

When bass are actively feeding on sunfish I'll use a green pumpkin Tiki
Stick with
chartreuse tail because it sinks slower than the Kinami and matches the
forage better.

When the bite is very tentative I'll switch to the 4" kinamis in the same
colors. I fish stick worms a lot, and have even had an article title
"The
Stick Worm Phenomenon" published in the Arizona Outdoorsman.

I can give your bait an honest evaluation because I will use it.

Bob La Londe
Director - Yuma Pro Am
13272 S Ave 4 1/2 E
Yuma, Az 85365


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Rich P wrote:
I'd be happy to help you out there Randy. Do you still know how to
contact
me?

Rich P

Sorry Rich, all old e-mail addy's have bit the dust two computers ago.
Anyone that's interested should send me a private e-mail, so I can keep
you updated of anything.



Randy-




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alwaysfishking July 18th, 2006 06:46 PM

testers needed
 

Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Successful anglers have to
be willing to lose a few lures sometimes in order to go into the thickest of
cover to root out bass that hunker down there.



Joe please clarify for Dave's sake that you do not mean cast your
crankbaits into the 40 foot high Pinetrees, as there are no bass up
that high. he seems to think that's where all the big lunkers live


Joe Haubenreich July 19th, 2006 02:58 AM

testers needed
 
40-foot high branches... no. 18-foot high.... OK. 18 feet above the water is
as high as an angler ought to hang their crankbaits. I tried to teach
Charles how to do it, but he never could get the hang of it. Heaven knows I
demonstrated it enough times, but as we've determined by his recent actions,
the boy is sort of "tetched."

If an angler doesn't hang his lures in trees, doesn't that take the
challenge out of fishing? I mean, anyone can sit or stand on a boat deck all
day, throw lures into the water, and wind them back in. Really, what skill
is involved in that?

But to step from a pitching deck onto what looks like solid shore, only to
discover it's really just a mat of weeds floating over nine inches of water,
to shake the algae from your right leg and then to crawl through poison ivy,
stick-tights, and brambles to reach the base of the tree, shred your palms
as you shinny up the coarse trunk, creep out on a three-inch diameter branch
eighteen feet over the water (it looked a lot thicker from below), pausing
every time you hear a c-r-e-e-e-a-k or popping, cracking sound (noticing
that the branch is now seventeen feet over the water.... now sixteen... now
fifteen.... GET A MOVE ON!), tendons popping and muscles protesting as you
stretch your torso and arm to somehow grow an extra inch or two on the end
of your arm, relaxing your grip on another branch to gain a last few
precious inches, shake and then regain your balance as you are startled by
your partner's camera flash from below, stabbing a hook in your finger as
you attempt to untie with only two fingers the Gordian knot your lure
managed to tie with unbreakable seventeen pound test line around an equally
tenacious wad of leaves right at the limits of your reach, sweat dripping
into your eyes but having no free hand to wipe your forehead and being too
unsure of your balance to even shake your head, finally retrieving your bait
and edging back toward the trunk and thence back to terra firma, losing your
grip and jumping the last three feet to the earth, landing on one foot and
wrenching your ankle on the side of a rock that gives way and tumbles toward
your waiting boat as a hot lance of pain pierces your leg and a red curtain
sweeps across your vision and you fight to remain conscious and in
possession of the Vienna Sausages, crackers, and Mountain Dew you ate for
lunch, then slipping down the bank while grabbing a handful of poison ivy to
slow your descent, stopping only when your left shoe has filled with
lakewater, scraping your shin as you jump for the boat that is retreating
from your attack, and finally tossing your prize lure onto the deck and
glaring at your howling partner in triumph. Now THAT's fishing!

Joe


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ps.com...

Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Successful anglers have to
be willing to lose a few lures sometimes in order to go into the thickest
of
cover to root out bass that hunker down there.



Joe please clarify for Dave's sake that you do not mean cast your
crankbaits into the 40 foot high Pinetrees, as there are no bass up
that high. he seems to think that's where all the big lunkers live



Bob La Londe July 19th, 2006 04:47 AM

testers needed
 
"Joe Haubenreich" wrote in
message . ..

But to step from a pitching deck onto what looks like solid shore, only to
discover it's really just a mat of weeds floating over nine inches of
water,
to shake the algae from your right leg and then to crawl through poison
ivy,
stick-tights, and brambles to reach the base of the tree, shred your palms
as you shinny up the coarse trunk, creep out on a three-inch diameter
branch
eighteen feet over the water (it looked a lot thicker from below), pausing
every time you hear a c-r-e-e-e-a-k or popping, cracking sound (noticing
that the branch is now seventeen feet over the water.... now sixteen...
now
fifteen.... GET A MOVE ON!), tendons popping and muscles protesting as you
stretch your torso and arm to somehow grow an extra inch or two on the end
of your arm, relaxing your grip on another branch to gain a last few
precious inches, shake and then regain your balance as you are startled by
your partner's camera flash from below, stabbing a hook in your finger as
you attempt to untie with only two fingers the Gordian knot your lure
managed to tie with unbreakable seventeen pound test line around an
equally
tenacious wad of leaves right at the limits of your reach, sweat dripping
into your eyes but having no free hand to wipe your forehead and being too
unsure of your balance to even shake your head, finally retrieving your
bait
and edging back toward the trunk and thence back to terra firma, losing
your
grip and jumping the last three feet to the earth, landing on one foot and
wrenching your ankle on the side of a rock that gives way and tumbles
toward
your waiting boat as a hot lance of pain pierces your leg and a red
curtain
sweeps across your vision and you fight to remain conscious and in
possession of the Vienna Sausages, crackers, and Mountain Dew you ate for
lunch, then slipping down the bank while grabbing a handful of poison ivy
to
slow your descent, stopping only when your left shoe has filled with
lakewater, scraping your shin as you jump for the boat that is retreating
from your attack, and finally tossing your prize lure onto the deck and
glaring at your howling partner in triumph. Now THAT's fishing!


Wow! That's one long sentence.


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Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
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rich July 19th, 2006 01:00 PM

testers needed
 
Randy, I'd be glad to try a few out for you. Since I don't fish as often as
most of these guys, I probably wouldn't be of much help, though.

However.... you mentioned that you are attempting to ascertain the value
( or lack of value ) of the added amino acids. May I suggest that you do
some "blind" testing by sending some participants the "non-amino" lures, and
others the " amino-lures". You would then chart the results of your blind
test by their responses. Since the recipients have no way of knowing which
lure they received...we'd hope that they would fish them hard and ...if the
results differ markedly...you've got a good test for the value of the
addition. It isn't a prefect "blind test" but I think it would help in your
evaluation and decision making.

regards, RichG TX/IL
Manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN-Groups
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners




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