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RichZ May 30th, 2004 05:09 AM

Spinning setup
 
Bob wrote:
The old & renouned Zebco/Abu Cardinal series spinning reels all had rear
drags, and theirs was as good as any I ever saw.


I never could figure out what all the fuss was about those reels. They
didn't feel particularly smooth to me. but then again, they didn't have a
reversible handle and were not available with the crank on the right side,
so I couldn't use one anyway.



AJH May 30th, 2004 11:02 AM

Spinning setup
 
No skirted spool, no instant anti-reverse, no silent anti reverse, no
big anti twist line roller. no bad for a 70's reel. no good fror
2004.JMO





Craig Baugher May 30th, 2004 03:29 PM

Spinning setup
 
See a.b.p.f. for two rear drag models. I fished with the Symetre model for
a couple years and loved it. But it does have one plastic gear that cannot
take the pressure of catching a day of hawgs. Caught about 10 smallies in
about a two hour span that weighed 5+ pounds and that plastic gear melted
down, striped out, skipped a half gear, doesn't matter, I had another nice
fish on and I had to hand line it in, because my reel took a crap.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!



Lure builder May 30th, 2004 05:17 PM

Spinning setup
 
I have the shimano spirex (1000, 2000, 4000) rear drag. I like the reels on
account of the drag adjustment and the trigger system. I fish in cold weather
in the spring and fall and can where gloves and cast with the trigger system.
I have a new daiwa tournament quality reel but i haven't broken it's cherry
yet.

Steve & Chris Clark May 30th, 2004 08:34 PM

Spinning setup
 
I hear ya Craig! I still love all three of my Symetre 1000s, they are front
drag. Sweeet reeels! Mine have too many 4#rs on each of them and still are
sssmmmoooottthhh! Clients use them and they take quite a lot of punishment.
--
Stony
"Craig Baugher" wrote in message
news:Fdmuc.19169$4A6.1532@attbi_s52...
See a.b.p.f. for two rear drag models. I fished with the Symetre model

for
a couple years and loved it. But it does have one plastic gear that

cannot
take the pressure of catching a day of hawgs. Caught about 10 smallies in
about a two hour span that weighed 5+ pounds and that plastic gear melted
down, striped out, skipped a half gear, doesn't matter, I had another nice
fish on and I had to hand line it in, because my reel took a crap.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!




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Bob Rickard May 30th, 2004 11:51 PM

Spinning setup
 
But using one on the water was a dream!
--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
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"AJH" wrote in message
...
No skirted spool, no instant anti-reverse, no silent anti reverse, no
big anti twist line roller. no bad for a 70's reel. no good fror
2004.JMO







Bob May 31st, 2004 03:28 AM

Spinning setup
 
Yah, but if you come fishing with me on the wrong day with nightcrawlers:

"AJH" wrote in message
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No skirted spool,


The skirted spool was a good idea back when to many fishing lines were much
stiffer than today and would try to unwind themselves. I can remember when
Trilene XL first hit the market, nobody wanted to believe that any fishing
line could be that limp! And before that, we all thought that Trilene (Blue)
and Royal Bonnyl (Brown) were limp lines.

no instant anti-reverse, no silent anti reverse, no


I own 3 reels of various makes, purchased within the last 4 years, that I
have removed the anti-reverse from AND have cranked down the drag so tight
that you have no recourse except that you have to back pedal when you get a
biggun' on that wants to take off on you.

big anti twist line roller. no bad for a 70's reel. no good fror
2004.JMO


If you back pedal, then you cannot ever twist your line. What wants to cause
line twist is the way line comes off the reel when the drag slips and the
bail stays put, or even worse gets wound forward at the same time.

FYI;
I own 8 spinning reels that are as the designer/engineer wanted them, drag,
anti-reverse and anti-twist rollers. They have their place for most fishing
and will work wonders.

Cast far
Bob



Rich Pierro May 31st, 2004 04:39 AM

Spinning setup
 
I have one I inherited when my dad died. He was right handed but this is a
lefty spinning reel. Not only does the crank mount on either side, the bail
spins the opposite direction of every other spinning reel I've seen,
clockwise. When I got it the spool was empty so I took it over to Ray's and
had them put some line on it and when I tried to use it the line was on
backwards. It's a true lefty spinning reel by design. It's an Abu Cardinal
and it's in killer shape, I don't know if it was ever really used but I
can't fish with it. The bail thing drives me nuts, I don't know how you
lefty's do it.

Rich P


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob wrote:
The old & renouned Zebco/Abu Cardinal series spinning reels all had rear
drags, and theirs was as good as any I ever saw.


I never could figure out what all the fuss was about those reels. They
didn't feel particularly smooth to me. but then again, they didn't have a
reversible handle and were not available with the crank on the right side,
so I couldn't use one anyway.





Marty May 31st, 2004 06:10 AM

Spinning setup
 

AJH wrote in message
...
No skirted spool, no instant anti-reverse, no silent anti reverse, no
big anti twist line roller. no bad for a 70's reel. no good fror
2004.JMO


I have a model 3 and a 4. The non-skirted spools were never a problem. The
non-silent anti-reverse is a major annoyance. The 3 is a terrible
line-twister, while the 4 never gave me a line problem. Unfortunately, some
of today's reels with the vaunted anti-twist line rollers have worse twist
than some reels without an anti-twist feature. Other than the twist on the
3, the only problem using these Cardinals today is fishing with the
anti-reverse disengaged; that backfires on me every once in a while.
Nevertheless, I never quite understood why these reels had a cult-like
following.




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