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Tom Nakashima December 6th, 2006 03:36 PM

something about flyfishing
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

. I've never really

had good fishing in California, so I tend to avoid it.


I've found some of the best fly fishing in California is in the Eastern
Sierras. There are a lot of beautiful streams and lakes, but you have to
hike in to get to them. Most of your average fly-fisherman are not willing
to work to get there. Some of the lakes and streams aren't marked on a Topo
map in the Eastern Sierra's so it's only by word of mouth. Some are clearly
marked on the map, but when you get there, there's nothing. Some we've
stumbled upon by accident. We have hiked into places where the fishing was
outstanding and the fish would take anything we threw at them, of course the
best thing is not another person in sight.
fwiw,
-tom



Wolfgang December 6th, 2006 06:01 PM

something about flyfishing
 

"rb608" wrote in message
news:XKodh.1012$4p2.433@trndny07...
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
Pretty much the same story here in the upper Great Lakes region. The
once bountiful yellow perch, smelt, lake trout and whitefish are all
but gone.


Makes me think of the Stan Rogers song, "Tiny Fish for Japan".


Don't know that one. I watch for it. Thanks.

Wolfgang



Larry L December 6th, 2006 06:16 PM

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote


I've found some of the best fly fishing in California is in the Eastern
Sierras. There are a lot of beautiful streams and lakes, but you have to
hike in to get to them.





So as to not give there rest of the world the wrong impression.
California contains some of Nature's very best efforts, including fishing
holes. But, in early December it's hard to point to any fishing that I
thought might appeal to rw.

Actually, I 'think' the upper Sac is now open year round? Once you're
away from I-5 and the railroad it's lovely and can be very good fishing.

As an ex-mountaineer let me point out that the Sierra is probably THE most
off-trail friendly mountain range in the world. With good topos and some
route finding skills nearly anyplace is accessible without such pleasure
robbing features as huge talus fields, scree, miles of downed forest etc,
often nearly pavement like routes on exposed, smooth, granite can be found.

We have lots of people ( send your money to Planned Parenthood ... less
people is the only hope for the future and I like prevention better than
Bush and Ben Laden control tactics ) and that means crowds exist. I've
been lucky in that I've always worked weekends ( my clients time off for
them to visit their mutts ) and hunted and fished mid-week when solitude can
be found even close to big cities.


Opps, getting sidetracked ( retired guy hazard ) .... anyway, world, ....
California has much great natural beauty to offer, come visit, leave your
money .... and, ah, leave G



rw December 6th, 2006 06:25 PM

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Larry L wrote:
"Tom Nakashima" wrote


I've found some of the best fly fishing in California is in the Eastern
Sierras. There are a lot of beautiful streams and lakes, but you have to
hike in to get to them.






So as to not give there rest of the world the wrong impression.
California contains some of Nature's very best efforts, including fishing
holes. But, in early December it's hard to point to any fishing that I
thought might appeal to rw.


I don't want to give the wrong impression, either. I'm not intending to
dis' California fishing. It just that I've never experienced good
flyfishing in California, and not entirely from lack of trying. I'm not
saying it doesn't exist, but I will say that you'll at least have to
drive a pretty long way from the Bay Area. Since I live in the Rocky
Mountain West in late winter, spring, summer, and most of fall, and
since I usually take a tropical vacation in the winter that includes
sal****er fishing and one major trip in the summer to somewhere like
Alaska, I've decided to give it a rest when I'm in California.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Tom Nakashima December 6th, 2006 07:46 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
ink.net...

I don't want to give the wrong impression, either. I'm not intending to
dis' California fishing. It just that I've never experienced good
flyfishing in California, and not entirely from lack of trying. I'm not
saying it doesn't exist, but I will say that you'll at least have to drive
a pretty long way from the Bay Area. Since I live in the Rocky Mountain
West in late winter, spring, summer, and most of fall, and since I usually
take a tropical vacation in the winter that includes sal****er fishing and
one major trip in the summer to somewhere like Alaska, I've decided to
give it a rest when I'm in California.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


I'll have to agree, I used to fish a lot in California, the Eastern Sierra's
and Northern Cal...McCloud/Shasta/Trinity area, and the Sac River, but it
doesn't interest me as much since fishing Alaska. The drive from the Bay
Area can wear you out.

We did find a good eatery in Weaverville at the La Grange in the Trinity
area. Besides the good food and great selection of beer and wine, all the
steelhead fisherman hang there in the bar area and swap stories. We've met
many from the Bay Area and Southern Cal. My friend enjoys chatting with
them, but I prefer meeting the local anglers who know the river well.
They're usually pretty quiet not to give to much info, but after a few
beers, they spill all the beans, including fly patterns and secret fishing
holes. Not bad for the price of a few pitchers of brew.
fwiw,
-tom












Calif Bill December 6th, 2006 08:18 PM

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"Steve" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:16:52 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


Well Larry, you were doing fine with the anti-California stuff.
What compelled you to screw it up with this?

So as to not give there rest of the world the wrong impression.
California contains some of Nature's very best efforts, including fishing
holes.


For those not in California please note that we have no rivers, lakes,
or bays. We could fall into the ocean at any moment. The pot growers
shoot fisherman. Our fish, the ones that we do not have from the
waters we do not have, are full of mercury and meth-lab toxins.
Go to Montana. The streets there are paved in trout scales.


Amen!



Larry L December 6th, 2006 10:27 PM

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"Steve" wrote


For those not in California please note that we have no rivers, lakes,
or bays. We could fall into the ocean at any moment. The pot growers
shoot fisherman. Our fish, the ones that we do not have from the
waters we do not have, are full of mercury and meth-lab toxins.
Go to Montana. The streets there are paved in trout scales.



As a summer 'resident' of Montahoming I feel compelled to point out that
while you are right about the pot growers and mercury poisoning in
Arnoldland ..... Montahoming is worse in many ways, man eating grizzlies
behind every tree, for instance, and crowds that make California look
deserted .... I've seen 100 cars at Raynolds ... no joke :- (


..... Colorado is the place to be, honest .... or Maine or North Carolina or
Texas ( they breed bass there to be extra stupid and easy to catch ... )



Wayne Harrison December 6th, 2006 11:08 PM

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"Larry L" wrote

.... Colorado is the place to be, honest .... or Maine or North Carolina
or Texas ( they breed bass there to be extra stupid and easy to catch
... )

been to colorado, maine, and texas; and lots of other places.

but me and god (if god is not a tar heel, then why is the sky carolina
blue) prefer the old north state.

wayno





rb608 December 6th, 2006 11:27 PM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
"rb608" wrote in message
Makes me think of the Stan Rogers song, "Tiny Fish for Japan".


Don't know that one. I watch for it. Thanks.


It's a cut on the "From Fresh Water" album. Most excellent album if you're
into Stan Rogers at all. The "White Squall" opening cut gives me chills
every time I hear it.

Joe F.



RalphH December 7th, 2006 05:49 AM

something about flyfishing
 



"rb608" wrote in message
news:XKodh.1012$4p2.433@trndny07...
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
Pretty much the same story here in the upper Great Lakes region. The
once bountiful yellow perch, smelt, lake trout and whitefish are all
but gone.


Makes me think of the Stan Rogers song, "Tiny Fish for Japan".

Joe F.

I know Stan Rogers but I don't know that one... love the "Live in Halifax"
CD

All the Yellow Perch have moved to British Columbia - we hate them
--
Some of my angling snaps:
http://gallery.fishbc.com/gallery/vi...bumName=RalphH




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