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Mike[_6_] November 11th, 2007 06:27 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On 11 Nov, 07:13, BJ Conner wrote:
On Nov 10, 9:55 pm, Mike wrote:

On 11 Nov, 03:54, BJ Conner wrote:


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


Why would anybody be interested in what a nasty evil little ****bag
like you has to say?


MC


Thanks for the kind words.
Why don't you ask them if your really interested?
MDK77 made a valuable informative post. I'll tie some of them up and
take them to the Bow next August.


No he didnīt, he asked a question, to which you do not know the
answer. You are a nasty ignorant little ****bag, who will stoop to
anythign at all to upset others. I am merely here to keep reminding
you, and others, of it.

MC


BJ Conner November 11th, 2007 06:33 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, Mike wrote:
On 11 Nov, 07:13, BJ Conner wrote:





On Nov 10, 9:55 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 03:54, BJ Conner wrote:


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


Why would anybody be interested in what a nasty evil little ****bag
like you has to say?


MC


Thanks for the kind words.
Why don't you ask them if your really interested?
MDK77 made a valuable informative post. I'll tie some of them up and
take them to the Bow next August.


No he didnīt, he asked a question, to which you do not know the
answer. You are a nasty ignorant little ****bag, who will stoop to
anythign at all to upset others. I am merely here to keep reminding
you, and others, of it.

MC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


Mike[_6_] November 11th, 2007 06:36 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On 11 Nov, 07:33, BJ Conner wrote:
On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, Mike wrote:



On 11 Nov, 07:13, BJ Conner wrote:


On Nov 10, 9:55 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 03:54, BJ Conner wrote:


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


Why would anybody be interested in what a nasty evil little ****bag
like you has to say?


MC


Thanks for the kind words.
Why don't you ask them if your really interested?
MDK77 made a valuable informative post. I'll tie some of them up and
take them to the Bow next August.


No he didnīt, he asked a question, to which you do not know the
answer. You are a nasty ignorant little ****bag, who will stoop to
anythign at all to upset others. I am merely here to keep reminding
you, and others, of it.


MC- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


I donīt know, and I donīt care, as noted, I am merely making sure that
people know you are a nasty evil little ****bag. What you have to say
is quite irrrelevant to me.

MC


BJ Conner November 11th, 2007 06:49 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On Nov 10, 10:36 pm, Mike wrote:
On 11 Nov, 07:33, BJ Conner wrote:





On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 07:13, BJ Conner wrote:


On Nov 10, 9:55 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 03:54, BJ Conner wrote:


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


Why would anybody be interested in what a nasty evil little ****bag
like you has to say?


MC


Thanks for the kind words.
Why don't you ask them if your really interested?
MDK77 made a valuable informative post. I'll tie some of them up and
take them to the Bow next August.


No he didnīt, he asked a question, to which you do not know the
answer. You are a nasty ignorant little ****bag, who will stoop to
anythign at all to upset others. I am merely here to keep reminding
you, and others, of it.


MC- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


I donīt know, and I donīt care, as noted, I am merely making sure that
people know you are a nasty evil little ****bag. What you have to say
is quite irrrelevant to me.

MC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Likewise, but I don't have to let people know it, your doing a
wonderful job of it.


Mike[_6_] November 11th, 2007 06:54 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On 11 Nov, 07:49, BJ Conner wrote:
On Nov 10, 10:36 pm, Mike wrote:



On 11 Nov, 07:33, BJ Conner wrote:


On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 07:13, BJ Conner wrote:


On Nov 10, 9:55 pm, Mike wrote:


On 11 Nov, 03:54, BJ Conner wrote:


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


Why would anybody be interested in what a nasty evil little ****bag
like you has to say?


MC


Thanks for the kind words.
Why don't you ask them if your really interested?
MDK77 made a valuable informative post. I'll tie some of them up and
take them to the Bow next August.


No he didnīt, he asked a question, to which you do not know the
answer. You are a nasty ignorant little ****bag, who will stoop to
anythign at all to upset others. I am merely here to keep reminding
you, and others, of it.


MC- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


I donīt know, and I donīt care, as noted, I am merely making sure that
people know you are a nasty evil little ****bag. What you have to say
is quite irrrelevant to me.


MC- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Likewise, but I don't have to let people know it, your doing a
wonderful job of it.


What people may or may not think of me is irrelevant to me. It is
however important to me that they know you are a nasty ignorant
****bag.

MC


Dave LaCourse November 11th, 2007 11:54 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:55:58 -0000, mdk77
wrote:

Tonight I saw a pattern in my fly tying book called a Madame-X. It
said it could be used as a hopper, and it sat low in the water (like
some here have mentioned is a "good thing"). It looked real easy to
tie (I'm in my first season of tying so easy is a good thing right
now).

Any of you used this pattern with success as a hopper?


That is what I call a "big ugly". It works wonderfully on several
waters, east and west, that I have fished. It is especially valuable
when tying a dropper on. It floats and floats and floats. I've taken
salmon and big rainbows with it. Also, it is the fly to use when
going after carp and pan fish.

Dave


Dave LaCourse November 11th, 2007 11:56 AM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
Hey, BJ...

Welcome to the club. Membership is filling up quickly.

d;o)




Tim Lysyk November 11th, 2007 02:20 PM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
BJ Conner wrote:


Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


I live about 120 miles south of Calgary. I don't fish the Bow much, but
last time I was there were used a pattern called Whitlock Hopper which
was a more natural imitation of the hoppers. The explanation was that
the fish see a lot of flies, and go more for the naturals. This was some
time ago. The Whitlock hopper can be seen at
http://www.westfly.com/patterns/dry/...ckhopper.shtml

Less heavily fished streams in southern Alberta and southeastern BC are
where I have used the Madam X, and it worked well.

Tim Lysyk

mdk77[_2_] November 11th, 2007 02:30 PM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On Nov 11, 8:20 am, Tim Lysyk wrote:
BJ Conner wrote:

Thanks again for the thoughtfullness. I answered his question with a
question and a link. The link was to page on Madam X.
How do you think they will work on the Bow?


I live about 120 miles south of Calgary. I don't fish the Bow much, but
last time I was there were used a pattern called Whitlock Hopper which
was a more natural imitation of the hoppers. The explanation was that
the fish see a lot of flies, and go more for the naturals. This was some
time ago. The Whitlock hopper can be seen athttp://www.westfly.com/patterns/dry/whitlockhopper.shtml

Less heavily fished streams in southern Alberta and southeastern BC are
where I have used the Madam X, and it worked well.

Tim Lysyk


That was a great link. I especially like the "how to fish" info.
That would apply to any hopper pattern. I really liked the tip on
casting into a bank and letting it bounce into the river. I'll bet
that would be pretty effective. I'll copy and paste that info here in
case it would be helpful for other newbies like me:

"How to Fish
Dress the fly with floatant and use standard dry fly presentations. On
small streams, you can fish a hopper anywhere in the river, but on
larger flows you will do best to present the fly right next to the
bank. On larger rivers, the best places to cast are along the margins,
no more than 15 feet from the bank, and often only inches from the
bank. Unless you're fishing from a boat, you may find it works best to
wade into the river and cast back to the bank.

One effective tactic is to cast so the fly hits shoreside grass, then
lands in the river with a distinct plop. This mimics the natural
insect. To further imitate natural behavior, give the fly an
occasional twitch as it drifts."



mdk77[_2_] November 11th, 2007 02:36 PM

Newbie hopper pattern subject revisited
 
On Nov 10, 8:54 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
On Nov 10, 5:55 pm, mdk77 wrote:

Tonight I saw a pattern in my fly tying book called a Madame-X. It
said it could be used as a hopper, and it sat low in the water (like
some here have mentioned is a "good thing"). It looked real easy to
tie (I'm in my first season of tying so easy is a good thing right
now).


Any of you used this pattern with success as a hopper?


Is this it??http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10182.htm
I might even be able to tie it.


That's it. Man, I'm glad I asked this question in ROFF. Sounds like
I stumbled upon an easy to tie hopper pattern that is also effective.
This ROFF is a goldmine of info for newbies. Thank you everyone who
helped me on this one. There is a lot of junk in this newsgroup, but
the "gold" is here to, if you look for it. Lotta good guys here.

p.s. I also was grateful to everyone who helped with info on the
canoe (a post of about a month ago). That whole thread was very
helpful.




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