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The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 20, 9:49 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Who needs power when you can siphon water across a continent and up a mile high grade? Imbecile. Wolfgang The theoretical point of view of stepping water nowithstanding power isn't generally an issue because the grid does exist but also because it exists in the form of solar, wind and batteries at the locale need to step the water. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout. |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:49 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: In the absence of topography, the solution is even simpler.......a lake. We've got those, too. You could acquire some of those through the simple expedient of exporting some of your excess topography to places where it is in short supply......say, Texas or Georgia, for example. In fact, EVERYBODY'S topography problems could easily be solved by the establishment of a national topography grid. But wait!, it gets better! There isn't even a need to establish such a grid. Seriously. It's ALREADY THERE! Railroads! Yep. Not only has the national topography grid already been in place for over a century, it is grossly underutilized. Distributing topography, on an as needed basis, would not only solve the immediate problem, it would also boost the economy by providing a huge and highly stable industry which would replace many of the jobs lost to overseas competition in manufacturing, and would be (since both supply and demand would be entirely domestic) immune to fluctuations caused by global economic factors. Sure, but useless without water and power. Who needs power when you can siphon water across a continent and up a mile high grade? Imbecile. Wolfgang The theoretical point of view of stepping water nowithstanding power isn't generally an issue because the grid does exist but also because it exists in the form of solar, wind and batteries at the locale need to step the water. Do you suppose I'm the only person here who has read this without noticing the oh so subtle change in terminology? :) Your pal, Halfordian Golfer It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout. Wrong, stupid, hackneyed......and just plain wrong. Wolfgang |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 20, 9:45 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin" wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. One assumes you have never encountered thousands of tons of challenge rotting on a Lake Michigan beach under the hot August sun. Moron. Wolfgang Yes, in fact, I have. On the other hand I hear the water in the Muskegon river is crystalline. But, we digress, this discussion is simply about plumbing. It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer Water flows uphill, towards money. |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:45 am, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 7:51 am, "Peter A. Collin" wrote: astounded that we do not have a reliable water grid. There is no excuse. I believe we need a new CCC. Instead of Iraq we build the water grid. Great idea. then the whole country could share an enjoy zebra mussels, spiny water fleas, ruffe gobies, leaping carp, rock snot, VHS disease, whirling disease, and god knows what else. Pete Collin That is quite a leap Pete. These are challenges, nothing more. One assumes you have never encountered thousands of tons of challenge rotting on a Lake Michigan beach under the hot August sun. Moron. Wolfgang Yes, in fact, I have. On the other hand I hear the water in the Muskegon river is crystalline. But, we digress, this discussion is simply about plumbing. It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. The evidence suggests that to your dying day you will never understand that (let alone why) your amazement does nothing to illuminate the issues that engender it, but speaks volumes about your own personal issues. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer Water flows uphill, towards money. Case in point......you don't have any idea at all what of you've just said here. :) Wolfgang |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 19, 11:38*am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone We could just hire the Chinese to do it for us. They have a couple of projects under way. They make and build everything else for us. http://www.water-technology.net/projects/south_north/ In the next 19 years or so they are supposed to have 25 million men between the ages of 18 and 25 with nothing to do but invade Siberia and secure natural resources. Threr will be an extra 10 million or so to dig a canal from ___________ to down south somewhere. There is plenty of water flowing into the east side of Jame Bay and there is hydro power to pump it. It's not doing much good up there. A few whales and polar bears etc. It's easy project, all you need is a swath of land about a 1/4 mile wide and 2400 miles long. There are no projects to big, just imaginations to small. The real question is why? The land of the right-wing, neocon Bu****es is being punished by God. The envrionment you ignore and trash today bites you in the ass tomorrow. They should just accept fate and learn to live with it. You want to see Atanta in a 100 years? Go to Phoneix, Tripoli or Bagdad. |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 21, 11:34 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Dec 19, 11:38 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...15/missed_1216... Your pal, TBone We could just hire the Chinese to do it for us. They have a couple of projects under way. They make and build everything else for us.http://www.water-technology.net/projects/south_north/ In the next 19 years or so they are supposed to have 25 million men between the ages of 18 and 25 with nothing to do but invade Siberia and secure natural resources. Threr will be an extra 10 million or so to dig a canal from ___________ to down south somewhere. There is plenty of water flowing into the east side of Jame Bay and there is hydro power to pump it. It's not doing much good up there. A few whales and polar bears etc. It's easy project, all you need is a swath of land about a 1/4 mile wide and 2400 miles long. There are no projects to big, just imaginations to small. The real question is why? The land of the right-wing, neocon Bu****es is being punished by God. The envrionment you ignore and trash today bites you in the ass tomorrow. They should just accept fate and learn to live with it. You want to see Atanta in a 100 years? Go to Phoneix, Tripoli or Bagdad. Probably reasonable to assume that a 'singular' project conducted by the states to connect a national grid in a comprehensive plan would do less environmental damage than all the one-off plans that would otherwise emerge to band-aid the problem. Your pal, Halfordian Golfer A cash flow runs through it |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
Tom Littleton wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom speaking of that...have you set the penns dates yet? need to get my secured leave established for 2008. jeff |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
"jeff" wrote in message ... speaking of that...have you set the penns dates yet? need to get my secured leave established for 2008. jeff the week leading up to Memorial Day. Secure away, my friend. Tom |
The Trans-America Water Grid: Not just for the arid west anymore
On Dec 21, 3:52 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message ... It amazes me that folkes would argue against a better water management system when we have so many problems with the one(s) we have. because, more often than not, when we **** with nature, it ultimately ****s us back.....worse. Tom I guess I don't understand your meaning. Since when is man not a part of nature and who said anything about ****ing with nature (at least any more than we have to date)? If we are to exist as a species, in any capacity, we will, invariably, completely and incessantly '****' with nature. I guess the best we can hope to do is to do those things that create a positive influence on our ability to manage the other things properly. When you're in a mess of sewage and drought, well, let's just say 'trout die' as a metaphor. In our panic to control local and regional issues we do **** nature while simultaneously not solving anything. Salmon get confused by the concrete and die without spawning, again as a metaphor. So, it's flooding down in Texas (RIP Stevie Ray) or in Louisiana and the water runs in to massive underground tanks in the grid to reappear in North Carolina where the cricks holding the beloved national treasure brookies would otherwise dry up. Espousing an attitude of 'living in a cave' just won't git 'er done. Your pal, TBone |
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