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notbob March 27th, 2008 12:17 AM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On 2008-03-26, Larry L wrote:

modquote
... it's not a knot that's not hard
to knot ....

/modquote


nb

Kevin Vang[_2_] March 27th, 2008 02:54 AM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
In article , rw56
says...
If the guy had asked how to tie the leader to the flyline I'd be all
over you like a cheap suit. :-)


A lawsuit?

--
Kevin Vang
reply to kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

[email protected] March 27th, 2008 12:57 PM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:54:44 -0500, Kevin Vang
wrote:

In article , rw56
says...
If the guy had asked how to tie the leader to the flyline I'd be all
over you like a cheap suit. :-)


A lawsuit?


A clown suit.

HTH,
R

Amos Nandy March 31st, 2008 04:02 AM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:13:29 GMT, notbob wrote:

I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the
hook of the dry. I've found a buncha sites with dropper loop knots or
showing the basic concept of a bend-of-hook dropper, but not much on the
best knot to use at the hook bend. What say ye?

nb


Figure eight knot tightened by pulling up hard on the tag end only.

notbob March 31st, 2008 10:39 PM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On 2008-03-26, notbob wrote:
I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the
hook of the dry.


I've been playing around with diff knots and I like the perfect loop knot
and uni.

Is this combo valid for a dry--drpr--nymph?

pl=perfect loop
uni=uni

(taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph

nb

Larry L March 31st, 2008 10:54 PM

Hook bend dropper knot
 

"notbob" wrote

(taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph

nb


that'll work

try

(taperleader)-----tippet ring ----(tippet)---


I scoffed pretty hard when I first heard of tippet rings ..
but,
I prefer to scoff about things I've actually tried,
so,
I tried them,
and,
I'm a convert,
now.



Mike[_6_] April 1st, 2008 12:09 AM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On Mar 31, 11:39 pm, notbob wrote:
On 2008-03-26, notbob wrote:

I'm would like to set up a dry --- nymph dropper w/ the nymph dropped from the
hook of the dry.


I've been playing around with diff knots and I like the perfect loop knot
and uni.

Is this combo valid for a dry--drpr--nymph?

pl=perfect loop
uni=uni

(taperleader)-----pl--pl----(tippet)---dryfly-hookbend/uni-----uni/nymph

nb


You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots.
Like these;
http://www.sportfish.co.uk/product/3...et_Rings_.html

You can drop a nymph off a ring as well if you wish, or drop the dry
fly off the ring if you want the nymph on the point.

Saves a lot of messing on, and makes a tapred leader last a very long
time. I would suggest you "colour" the rings with matt black marker.
This stops them glinting, and fewer fish try to take the rings.

If you want to fish "in-line" rings, and you dress your own flies,
then try these;
http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8063

This prevents "bumping" fish off, ( as does the ring drop rig
described above).

TL
MC

notbob April 1st, 2008 12:34 AM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On 2008-03-31, Larry L wrote:

I scoffed pretty hard when I first heard of tippet rings ..


No wonder. Could there be a smaller niche to exploit?

I'm off to develope "tippet ring" lube/indicator/release.

nb

notbob April 1st, 2008 04:07 PM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
Mike wrote in
:


You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots.


I'm not sure I see the advantage of tippet rings over loops. All I've
scoured on the web shows folks using clinch knots and the like to attach to
the ring. That's tying a knot. Changing a tippet means cutting the currnt
knot and tying a new knot to the ring. What's the advantage over loop-to-
loop where knot tying is avoided?

nb

Mike[_6_] April 1st, 2008 05:32 PM

Hook bend dropper knot
 
On Apr 1, 5:07 pm, notbob wrote:
Mike wrote :

You will find it easier to use tippet rings instead of just knots.


I'm not sure I see the advantage of tippet rings over loops. All I've
scoured on the web shows folks using clinch knots and the like to attach to
the ring. That's tying a knot. Changing a tippet means cutting the currnt
knot and tying a new knot to the ring. What's the advantage over loop-to-
loop where knot tying is avoided?

nb


You donīt shorten your tapered leader at all.

It is easy to remove or add dropper lengths/tippet,

Knots to rings are stronger than knots to nylon. Especially inf you
use a tucked half blood knot ( aka. Improved clinch);

http://www.animatedknots.com/improvedclinch/index.php

http://www.cabelas.com/information/c...inch-Knot.html

When attaching a dropper, you tie your fly to the length of line you
wish to use, and then tie the length of line to the ring. This is
easier to control, gives you the length you want, and also allows you
to use short droppers without fear of damaging your leader.

Loop to loop is not an appropriate method of attaching tippet or
flies.Knots are used to form such loops in any case! It is only useful
for attaching leader to fly-line, and may cause hingeing even then. A
needle knot is better for this connection.

When you hook a fish, the pull is on the ring, which automatically
orientates the line/knot in the direction of pull. This exerts less
strain on the knot. Using the "tag ends" of knots, or knotted tippet
is less reliable.

If you donīt see any advantages, then donīt use them! :)

TL
MC


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