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will_gamble March 28th, 2008 03:52 PM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
Could small children sit in it and fish, like about five years old?
You don't have to be super still like a canoe do you? *Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

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I saw a guy in a jon boat try to sit on his ice chest in the center of
the boat facing to the side. When he sat on the ice chest it slide
backwards and the boat just rolled over and pitched him in the water.
He came up and jumped back in so fast it was pretty comical.

I would buy a two or three man molded "pontoon" type boat before I
would ever buy another jon boat. You can stand on the edge of one of
those things and they won't flip. They don't leak either. Put a
trolling motor and battery on them and off you go. They also fit in
the back of a pickup better IMHO.

Just don't drag them across concrete.

jmDesktop March 29th, 2008 06:52 PM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
On Mar 28, 11:52*am, will_gamble wrote:
Could small children sit in it and fish, like about five years old?
You don't have to be super still like a canoe do you? *Thanks.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I saw a guy in a jon boat try to sit on his ice chest in the center of
the boat facing to the side. *When he sat on the ice chest it slide
backwards and the boat just rolled over and pitched him in the water.
He came up and jumped back in so fast it was pretty comical.

I would buy a two or three man molded "pontoon" type boat before I
would ever buy another jon boat. *You can stand on the edge of one of
those things and they won't flip. *They don't leak either. *Put a
trolling motor and battery on them and off you go. *They also fit in
the back of a pickup better IMHO.

Just don't drag them across concrete.


Do you have a link to that kind of boat? I can't find molded pontoon
boat. Thanks.

Chicago Paddling-Fishing March 30th, 2008 07:25 AM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
Da Chief wrote:
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Could small children sit in it and fish, like about five years old?
You don't have to be super still like a canoe do you? Thanks.


If you already have a canoe, there are companies that make outrigger type
devices that can prevent children from tipping you. Use google for more;

http://www.castlecraft.com/stabilizers.htm

http://www.castlecraft.com/canoe_stabilizer.htm even has a picture of someone
doing a headstand... which reminds me of this;

http://www.chicagopaddling/org/potc/Marge2a.jpg Marge passed away last year
but was famous for doing headstands in canoes while whitewater canoeing,
we don't all have her sense of balance...

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Rodney Long March 31st, 2008 02:15 AM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
Da Chief wrote:
snip

Could small children sit in it and fish, like about five years old?
You don't have to be super still like a canoe do you? Thanks.


If you already have a canoe, there are companies that make outrigger type
devices that can prevent children from tipping you. Use google for more;




http://www.castlecraft.com/stabilizers.htm


Those are canoe training wheels :-)


A very small child can't tip a John boat, if an adult is sitting in it,
but always put a FD on all children in boats
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will_gamble March 31st, 2008 02:28 AM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
On Mar 29, 1:52*pm, jmDesktop wrote:
On Mar 28, 11:52*am, will_gamble wrote:





Could small children sit in it and fish, like about five years old?
You don't have to be super still like a canoe do you? *Thanks.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I saw a guy in a jon boat try to sit on his ice chest in the center of
the boat facing to the side. *When he sat on the ice chest it slide
backwards and the boat just rolled over and pitched him in the water.
He came up and jumped back in so fast it was pretty comical.


I would buy a two or three man molded "pontoon" type boat before I
would ever buy another jon boat. *You can stand on the edge of one of
those things and they won't flip. *They don't leak either. *Put a
trolling motor and battery on them and off you go. *They also fit in
the back of a pickup better IMHO.


Just don't drag them across concrete.


Do you have a link to that kind of boat? *I can't find molded pontoon
boat. *Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Here is an example. They are shorter, but much more stable side to
side

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colem...tegoryid=66003


bill allemann April 4th, 2008 04:10 AM

Are riveted jon boats okay?
 
leaking rivets are not a big deal. You can reset and tighten them (anvil of
some sort on one side, hammer and flat point punch on the other).
On an older boat, a bigger issue is fatigue cracks, which tend to be where
the transom is welded to the bottom, or on a bottom rib that may have been
munched.
Good welders on thin old aluminum aren't so easy to find.
Get the largest boat you can handle, as far as launching, hauling, and what
type of propulsion you'll be using. If you will be using oars, you don't
want to go wider than a 36" bottom, but if you'll be using outboard or
troller, I'd go a little wider.
We stand and fish all the time in a 16X48 floating small rivers. BTW, the
dimensions are usually stated as length-feet X bottom width-inches.

Bill


"jmDesktop" wrote in message
...
I knew a guy that said his leaked at the rivets. Is that they only
way flat bottom boats are made, "riveted"? I just want one for small
lake fishing, What are the limits of one, do they tip easily? Thank
you.





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