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Larry L April 11th, 2008 04:27 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"notbob" wrote


but right now I'd kill for one 70 deg day.



Of course, right now is the time of year when this area is at it's best,
it's absolutely lovely here now.

I sometimes feel a bit guilty mentioning that when others are at still in
suffer-season but in Summer this place can be miserable, we pay g.

But, I'm on my third travel trailer. Each has gotten lots of use, months
each year, getting me out of the heat and into the mountains .... first for
work running field trials, now for my 'fishing' trips. I came very close
to buying a place in Idaho, instead of this one, but then it occured to me
that I'd end up wintering here in a trailer and if you're going to travel to
stay in consistent 'dog working temperatures' it makes more sense to go to
the mountains in summer than to come here in winter fog and rain to 'rough
it.' ...imho







Larry L April 11th, 2008 04:28 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"Frank Reid" wrote

My Mom always used to tell me that it was 105 on the day I was born
(April 15) outside of Los Angeles.
Frank Reid


Did she ever call you the most expensive tax she ever had to pay? ( April
15 ? )



[email protected] April 11th, 2008 04:56 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 
On Apr 10, 3:04 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
It's supposed to be near 90 here by Sunday ... yuck

whoa, Whoa, WHOA !!!


It was 37 this morning on my back porch...but supposed to reach 80 by
Monday...farmers down here would probably rather see a quick runoff
than a slow one, since their irrigation water comes from so far away
(Rio Grande basin in Colorado and northern NM).

The best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get rid of
half (probably more) of the trees in the mountain west. Kill a tree,
save a forest...and a trout stream (obroff).

Jon.

Wolfgang April 11th, 2008 06:02 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 3:04 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
It's supposed to be near 90 here by Sunday ... yuck

whoa, Whoa, WHOA !!!


It was 37 this morning on my back porch...but supposed to reach 80 by
Monday...farmers down here would probably rather see a quick runoff
than a slow one, since their irrigation water comes from so far away
(Rio Grande basin in Colorado and northern NM).

The best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get rid of
half (probably more) of the trees in the mountain west. Kill a tree,
save a forest...and a trout stream (obroff).


Actually, the best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get rid
of 90% (probably more) of the people in the mountain west.* Kill a cowboy,
save a third of a continent.

Wolfgang
*of course this would not only solve the problem, it would also moot it. ah
well, i guess i can learn to live with that.



JT April 11th, 2008 06:28 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
It's supposed to be near 90 here by Sunday ... yuck

far worse is that it's 34 in Ashton as I type but forecast to reach mid
60's this weekend,

whoa, Whoa, WHOA !!!

we don't need or want a super quick runoff of this years excellent
snowpack such as happened a couple years ago ...


be cool

.... think cool


We had 22 degrees this morning and it's a blue bird day. They are talking 65
degrees Sat. and 70 degrees on Sun. Sounds like a dream given the extended
winter we have had. The lake is still completely froze over and I doubt it
will open before fishing season. My grandfather has had a cabin on the lake
for 55 years and he has never seen the lake froze over on opening day of
fishing season.

Are elevation is just under 2500 ft., however we are in a snow belt on the
WA./ID. boarder, we had over 140 inches of snow fall this year. The snow in
the area has had a very slow melt off, allowing for the ground to accept a
great deal of the water, although the creeks, streams and sm. rivers are
bloated.

I understand your position in CA, but here in the N.W. I'm ready to see and
feel the SUN!

JT




Larry L April 11th, 2008 06:57 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"JT" wrote


I understand your position in CA, but here in the N.W. I'm ready to see
and feel the SUN!



yeah, I'm sure you are

I just flashed on that summer, two or three back, when a good snowpack did
little real good for the aquifier/rivers because of a very hot May ......
thus my post

Hopefully it will warm soon for you, just not too quickly

I thought you were in Montana ... no? .... maybe just because of Bitterroot
trips



JT April 11th, 2008 07:25 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"JT" wrote


I understand your position in CA, but here in the N.W. I'm ready to see
and feel the SUN!



yeah, I'm sure you are

I just flashed on that summer, two or three back, when a good snowpack did
little real good for the aquifier/rivers because of a very hot May ......
thus my post

Hopefully it will warm soon for you, just not too quickly


Very true...

I thought you were in Montana ... no? .... maybe just because of
Bitterroot trips


No... I reside in WA. I regularly try and get over to MT., but not nearly
as much as I would like too.

I look forward to hearing about your travels this season.

JT





Tom Littleton April 11th, 2008 10:16 PM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

wrote in message
...
The best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get rid of
half (probably more) of the trees in the mountain west. Kill a tree,
save a forest...and a trout stream (obroff).

Jon.


good Lord, I hope you are joking here, Jon.
Tom



[email protected] April 12th, 2008 01:29 AM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

On 11-Apr-2008, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Actually, the best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get
rid
of 90% (probably more) of the people in the mountain west.* Kill a
cowboy,
save a third of a continent.

Wolfgang
*of course this would not only solve the problem, it would also moot it.
ah
well, i guess i can learn to live with that.


Need any help?
Or send them to LA NYC or Hotlanta

Fred

Fred

Bob Weinberger April 12th, 2008 05:25 AM

slow down summer ... whoa, Whoa
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
news:QyQLj.25$DD2.12@trndny04...

wrote in message
...
The best way to improve groundwater retention would be to get rid of
half (probably more) of the trees in the mountain west. Kill a tree,
save a forest...and a trout stream (obroff).

Jon.


good Lord, I hope you are joking here, Jon.
Tom


No he is not joking. The forests of the inland West are way overstocked
compared to their pre-settlement condition. Particularly those in the
Ponderosa Pine and dry mixed conifer ecotypes. Pre- settlement stands of
trees in those ecotypes commonly averaged 30-100 trees/acre while they now
commonly have from 300-5000 trees/ac. The result is unhealthy fire-prone
stands that deplete soil moisture. The specific reasons for the changes in
stocking levels are too complex to explain here, but if anyone is truly
interested I will explain them via email, or you could take your request to
alt.forestry where it would be answered by myself or another forester.

Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR




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