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Mike[_6_] May 2nd, 2008 08:54 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On May 2, 9:45 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:

When you've got two flies separated by 24" or so, there's a greater
likelihood that at least one of them will be in the right place at the
right time. Even for those who have experience, depth variations in the
streams are easier to deal with when you have two nymphs.

--
Scott
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Not logical to assume that. Indeed, if you use two nymphs, it is far
more likely that at least one will definitely be in the wrong place
most of the time, and is thus superfluous. If the bottom nymph is
dragging on the bottom, it will keep giving false bite indications as
well.

If you want to use two nymphs, fine. I donīt mind, hell, you can use
ten if you like.

TL
MC

Scott Seidman May 2nd, 2008 08:56 PM

Dual nymphs
 
Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.


No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

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Scott
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Mike[_6_] May 2nd, 2008 09:03 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On May 2, 9:56 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:
Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.


No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply


If you tried fishing in the water, at the correct depth, then you
might change your mind. No matter how many hours you test a two nymph
rig in a field, neither of the nymphs will be in the best place for
catching a fish.

If you do fish in the water, and have no idea of the water depth, then
using two flies is not going to change that. Regardless of the depth
you set, you only have two possibilities. Either both flies are in
the wrong place. or one fly is in the wrong place.

At least if you use only one fly, you canīt have two flies in the
wrong place.

TL
MC

Dave LaCourse May 2nd, 2008 09:19 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:09 GMT, notbob wrote:

.....no, not hot big-boobed babes drooling over your rig!

I'm having no luck tossing out my lone oversized dry BWO (#12). OTOH, I've
improved my casting immensely. In light of that fact, I actually broke down
and spent big bucks on 3 flies from my local premier FF shop. The guy on
duty seemed to know his flies, but didn't know the basic nX equation for
tippets, so I'm not sure of any advice he offered other than to rig 'em as a
pair. So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb


What? No pheasant tail? Try nymphing with just one nymph as others
have suggested. I'm a pretty good nympher and never fail to take fish
using that method, and I seldom, if ever, use more than one.

You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.

But, you really should learn how to nymph and cast better before you
attempt a 2 nymph rig. I have seen some very experienced fishermen
untangling their dual fly rigs.

Break down and buy a couple of pheasant tails in size 18. You won't
regret your purchase.

Dave



[email protected] May 2nd, 2008 09:28 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 2, 9:56 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:
Mike wrote in news:89e09b57-d515-4811-80d2-
:

Not logical to assume that.


No need to assume anything that hours of field testing verifies.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply


If you tried fishing in the water,


Like in a bowl...?

at the correct depth,


OK, how big is the bowl...?

then you might change your mind.


Yeah, anything is possible...

No matter how many hours you test a two nymph
rig in a field, neither of the nymphs will be in the best place for
catching a fish.


Testing proves it...

If you do fish in the water,


A soup bowl? A salad bowl? A trainstation toilet bowl?

and have no idea of the water depth, then
using two flies is not going to change that.


But one is better than side-scan sonar...

Regardless of the depth you set, you only have two possibilities.


Dumb and dumber?

Either both flies are in the wrong place.


One in the bowl and one in Dieter's mouth...?

or one fly is in the wrong place.


Well, if anyone ought to know about the wrong place for his fly, it'd be
you...

At least if you use only one fly, you canīt have two flies in the
wrong place.


Sure you can - one in the bowl and one in Dieter...

TL
MC


HTH,
Dickie

[email protected] May 2nd, 2008 09:31 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:19:24 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:09 GMT, notbob wrote:

.....no, not hot big-boobed babes drooling over your rig!

I'm having no luck tossing out my lone oversized dry BWO (#12). OTOH, I've
improved my casting immensely. In light of that fact, I actually broke down
and spent big bucks on 3 flies from my local premier FF shop. The guy on
duty seemed to know his flies, but didn't know the basic nX equation for
tippets, so I'm not sure of any advice he offered other than to rig 'em as a
pair. So, the question is, what's the best way to rig a dual nymph
offering. I have a BH pheasant and a Dunn's emerger. I also got a hotwire
prince, but I figure that's a solo rig. What say ye? TIA ;)

nb


What? No pheasant tail? Try nymphing with just one nymph as others
have suggested. I'm a pretty good nympher and never fail to take fish
using that method, and I seldom, if ever, use more than one.

You can use more than one without getting tangles by simply using a
circle cast - when your fly drifts past and below you on the stream,
simply pick up the line and lob it upstream without any false casting.


Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R

But, you really should learn how to nymph and cast better before you
attempt a 2 nymph rig. I have seen some very experienced fishermen
untangling their dual fly rigs.

Break down and buy a couple of pheasant tails in size 18. You won't
regret your purchase.

Dave


Mike[_6_] May 2nd, 2008 09:38 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R


Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why donīt
you tell us?

MC

Mike[_6_] May 2nd, 2008 09:39 PM

Dual nymphs
 
False tosser to boot.

[email protected] May 2nd, 2008 09:49 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

Curious,
R


Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why donīt
you tell us?

MC

Um, because you like big rough men with big rough hands to plug you up
the poopshoot...? I know it has nothing to do with fishing or the
question, but since it's why you do EVERYTHING you do, it would be why
you'd do it, at least...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...you're calling a big rough man with big rough
hands,
Dickie

Mike[_6_] May 2nd, 2008 10:09 PM

Dual nymphs
 
On May 2, 10:49 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 2, 10:31 pm, wrote:


Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?


Curious,
R


Since you are certainly the most persistent tosser present, why donīt
you tell us?


MC


Um, because you like big rough men with big rough hands to plug you up
the poopshoot...? I know it has nothing to do with fishing or the
question, but since it's why you do EVERYTHING you do, it would be why
you'd do it, at least...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...you're calling a big rough man with big rough
hands,
Dickie


Really quite amusing, observing ( I would have written "watching",
but it seems there are plenty of others doing that), a Dick behaving
like an asshole. Not at all surprising that you seem to be obsessed by
them.

Why donīt you try screwing yourself? Could be your true destiny, and
you are doubtless the only person who is ever goinjg to love you
anyway.

MC


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