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On Jul 1, 6:08*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 1, 5:47*am, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:19:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington. Camping with the Mrses and dog,
learning more about alfalfa, pumps, bales, reacquainting with the
smell of pigs, and observing the place made for a busy week. Happiness
in the Pa loose is $8 + a bushel soft wheat, wind turbines, and $200 a
ton first cut alfalfa (we called it luccerne in Utah).

I fished every day, finding the basic holes, riffles and runs for its
half mile, getting realistic about where more shade planting should
go, sampling the bugs, and just feeling the place, the people, the
stock and the area. Lots of wildlife; deer, turkey, quail, hawks,
heron, beaver, coyote, duck.

I closed out each day at the biggest hole where the river bangs into a
rock face sideways and on into a pool about the size of a small city
lot. My best fish was an 18 inch bright "Rainbow,'' caught on a Coal
Train, steelhead fly. Most others were smallish Cutthroat, caught thru
out the day, mostly from shaded side, pocket holes and grassy bank
runs. Half on nymphs. The wife caught our first trout on the place, a
12 inch "Rainbow." (I'm thinking that these fish have got to have some
steelie genetics in them because they fight and take like steelhead.)

Dave

Sounds nice.

...and I'm glad you didn't have to mess with the Zohan...

TC,
R
PS - while the turbines are a good thing, the wheat and hay prices may
not be as great as one might think...- Hide quoted text -

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Why?
Dave

Zee.
R- Hide quoted text -

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I am serious; why are higher wheat and alfalfa prices "not as great as
one might think", or a bad thing (especially after years of $3+ for
soft white wheat)? I want to see farmers succeed, pay off debt, buy
new equipment etc..

Dave

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On Jul 1, 6:27*pm, JR wrote:
wrote:
With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington.....

"Got to fish my new place....."

You suck, Snedeker.

- JR

;)

I sometimes can go into an uncontrollable seft satisfied, guilt free
stupor, in spite of early exposure to nuns. And I have been known to
get too much pleasure from retirement. However, I can assure you that
these are my only 2 faults as a human being. As a role model and
demigod however, . . . .

Dave :-))

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On Jul 1, 1:22*pm, wrote:
On Jul 1, 12:07*pm, wrote:





On Jul 1, 6:21*am, Steve Cain wrote:

On Jul 1, 4:19 am, wrote:

With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington. Camping with the Mrses and dog,
learning more about alfalfa, pumps, bales, reacquainting with the
smell of pigs, and observing the place made for a busy week. Happiness
in the Pa loose is $8 + a bushel soft wheat, wind turbines, and $200 a
ton first cut alfalfa (we called it luccerne in Utah).

I fished every day, finding the basic holes, riffles and runs for its
half mile, getting realistic about where more shade planting should
go, sampling the bugs, and just feeling the place, the people, the
stock and the area. Lots of wildlife; deer, turkey, quail, hawks,
heron, beaver, coyote, duck.

I closed out each day at the biggest hole where the river bangs into a
rock face sideways and on into a pool about the size of a small city
lot. My best fish was an 18 inch bright "Rainbow,'' caught on a Coal
Train, steelhead fly. Most others were smallish Cutthroat, caught thru
out the day, mostly from shaded side, pocket holes and grassy bank
runs. Half on nymphs. The wife caught our first trout on the place, a
12 inch "Rainbow." (I'm thinking that these fish have got to have some
steelie genetics in them because they fight and take like steelhead.)

Dave

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It feels real good. Also now have a better handle on where to plant
some trees to further cool the river. Over time I would also like to
reduce our take from the river via better irrigation tech, or perhaps
a crop change. Bottom line is it has to work for the farmer i and some
other nearby small holders lease to, so the land can stay in Ag tax
status w 40% in conservation uses.

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Here is another peice of fishing rich land for sale that some ROFFIAN
might be interested in. Its in Western Wa., 52 acres, split by the
best Steelhead river in Washington, its floatable, has timber, pasture
that could grow corn w/out irrigation I think, and a building site
above the flood plain. Its near the Coast, on a good road, and about
50 miles off I-5. If I had the money I'd have bought it too.

http://www.harborrealtyinc.com/index...il&startrow=25

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The property is on the Wynouchee. MLS# is 27184503. Asking 240k for
52A.
Dave

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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 1, 6:08*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 1, 5:47*am, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:19:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington. Camping with the Mrses and dog,
learning more about alfalfa, pumps, bales, reacquainting with the
smell of pigs, and observing the place made for a busy week. Happiness
in the Pa loose is $8 + a bushel soft wheat, wind turbines, and $200 a
ton first cut alfalfa (we called it luccerne in Utah).

I fished every day, finding the basic holes, riffles and runs for its
half mile, getting realistic about where more shade planting should
go, sampling the bugs, and just feeling the place, the people, the
stock and the area. Lots of wildlife; deer, turkey, quail, hawks,
heron, beaver, coyote, duck.

I closed out each day at the biggest hole where the river bangs into a
rock face sideways and on into a pool about the size of a small city
lot. My best fish was an 18 inch bright "Rainbow,'' caught on a Coal
Train, steelhead fly. Most others were smallish Cutthroat, caught thru
out the day, mostly from shaded side, pocket holes and grassy bank
runs. Half on nymphs. The wife caught our first trout on the place, a
12 inch "Rainbow." (I'm thinking that these fish have got to have some
steelie genetics in them because they fight and take like steelhead.)

Dave

Sounds nice.

...and I'm glad you didn't have to mess with the Zohan...

TC,
R
PS - while the turbines are a good thing, the wheat and hay prices may
not be as great as one might think...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why?
Dave

Zee.
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am serious; why are higher wheat and alfalfa prices "not as great as
one might think", or a bad thing (especially after years of $3+ for
soft white wheat)? I want to see farmers succeed, pay off debt, buy
new equipment etc..

Because while those prices are up, so are all others. If you're a
farmer, you know $4.00USD gal red diesel takes a lot out of $8.00 wheat
and $200.00 alfalfa, not to mention what the price of everything else,
from your kid's shoes to the meat your family eats, even if you raise
your own. Most large-volume commoditized products are affected by and
affect others and among the few factors that can truly "control" them (
to the extent of temporary volatile large swings) is the entrance of
VERY large non-possession-taking long buy-and-holders in no way
affiliated with the underlying market, and usually against the interests
of the underlying market. That's why I laugh when I hear people say
that "oil companies" are responsible for _high_ oil prices (ignoring the
lows) and "speculators" aren't.

TC,
R

Dave

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On Jul 2, 6:21*am, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:00:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 1, 6:08*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 1, 5:47*am, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 01:19:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington. Camping with the Mrses and dog,
learning more about alfalfa, pumps, bales, reacquainting with the
smell of pigs, and observing the place made for a busy week. Happiness
in the Pa loose is $8 + a bushel soft wheat, wind turbines, and $200 a
ton first cut alfalfa (we called it luccerne in Utah).

I fished every day, finding the basic holes, riffles and runs for its
half mile, getting realistic about where more shade planting should
go, sampling the bugs, and just feeling the place, the people, the
stock and the area. Lots of wildlife; deer, turkey, quail, hawks,
heron, beaver, coyote, duck.

I closed out each day at the biggest hole where the river bangs into a
rock face sideways and on into a pool about the size of a small city
lot. My best fish was an 18 inch bright "Rainbow,'' caught on a Coal
Train, steelhead fly. Most others were smallish Cutthroat, caught thru
out the day, mostly from shaded side, pocket holes and grassy bank
runs. Half on nymphs. The wife caught our first trout on the place, a
12 inch "Rainbow." (I'm thinking that these fish have got to have some
steelie genetics in them because they fight and take like steelhead..)

Dave

Sounds nice.

...and I'm glad you didn't have to mess with the Zohan...

TC,
R
PS - while the turbines are a good thing, the wheat and hay prices may
not be as great as one might think...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why?
Dave

Zee.
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am serious; why are higher wheat and alfalfa prices "not as great as
one might think", or a bad thing (especially after years of $3+ for
soft white wheat)? I want to see farmers succeed, pay off debt, buy
new equipment etc..

Because while those prices are up, so are all others. *If you're a
farmer, you know $4.00USD gal red diesel takes a lot out of $8.00 wheat
and $200.00 alfalfa, not to mention what the price of everything else,
from your kid's shoes to the meat your family eats, even if you raise
your own. *Most large-volume commoditized products are affected by and
affect others and among the few factors that can truly "control" them (
to the extent of temporary volatile large swings) is the entrance of
VERY large non-possession-taking long buy-and-holders in no way
affiliated with the underlying market, and usually against the interests
of the underlying market. *That's why I laugh when I hear people say
that "oil companies" are responsible for _high_ oil prices (ignoring the
lows) and "speculators" aren't.

TC,
R





Dave- Hide quoted text -

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I see your point.
Dave

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On Jul 2, 6:26*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
wrote:
With so much going on family wise (good stuff), and some lighthouse
keeping, taking up too much of the Spring, Last week I finally got to
fish my new place in SE Washington. ...

Sweet. You'll make a fine gentleman farmer. Get yourself some
breeks & tweeds and a good hunting dog, you'll be set.

--
Ken Fortenberry

While I do apple trees for a hobby I'm no farmer. Understand that the
average farm in Columbia County is over a 1000 acres, and that factors
in many little places like mine. There are 3000 acre and larger wheat
farms here. And even the county officials wear jeans and boots.

We've got a dog. This last trip she just loved all the new smells and
guarding the camp. However one evening we heard what sounded like a
feral cat calling about 50 yards out. Annie freaked, climbed into the
back seat and wouldn't come out. Now she is used to coyotes trying to
lure her out, but this thing scarred her lots. I don't think it
sounded anything like a cougar, so I am puzzled at what it could have
been. Annie was wary the rest of the trip and we saw no feral cats.

Dave

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wrote:
On Jul 1, 9:26 am, wrote:


That sounds like F___ C___ and other places in S Central Utah I
fished as a student at BYU with my trusty Wonderod. That feeling,
moving light, wet, back into the country, can really touch ones inner
hunter/gatherer :-) rarer at my age but still possible. A week to
recover but still worth it.


Dave, I don't know if you were around when I posted this link last fall,
but you may enjoy it. It is not F___ C_____ but is a very similar type
place.

http://www.sfcn.org/rmd/LaborDay2007/LaborDay2007.html

I didn't mention on the web page, but I didn't encounter another person
until I got back to my car.


Russell

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On Jul 9, 9:32*am, "Russell D." wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 1, 9:26 am, wrote:

That sounds like F___ C___ and other places in S Central Utah I
fished as a student at BYU with my trusty Wonderod. That feeling,
moving light, wet, back into the country, can really touch ones inner
hunter/gatherer :-) rarer at my age but still possible. A week to
recover but still worth it.

Dave, I don't know if you were around when I posted this link last fall,
but you may enjoy it. It is not F___ C_____ but is a very similar type
place.

http://www.sfcn.org/rmd/LaborDay2007/LaborDay2007.html

I didn't mention on the web page, but I didn't encounter another person
until I got back to my car.

Russell

Wow. Thanks a lot. I had missed your '07 posting. Man, your pictures
brought a lot of feelings back. Fresh out of New Jersey, Utah just
blew my mind. I could fish between BYU classes by walking out thru the
old brick kilns and the ag dept, to the irrigation takeout on the
Provo, and on weekends tromp up the side canyons for almost complete
isolation. I have been very lucky in life to have lived mostly in the
West and i often miss Utah. I would encourage any flyfishing young
person, Mormon or not, to consider BYU and/or the UofU if they have
the grades.
Your TR is great. Thanx.

Dave