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Scott Seidman October 16th, 2008 02:38 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote in
:

LOL !! The day you vote for Obama I'll hop a train to Hamburg and
go on a date with The Loon.



"Undecided" in this context means a struggle to decide between McCain and
Barr or some other third party.

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Scott
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[email protected] October 16th, 2008 03:06 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
On 16 Oct 2008 13:38:14 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote in
:

LOL !! The day you vote for Obama I'll hop a train to Hamburg and
go on a date with The Loon.


Oh, yeah, right - you're just trying to use me as an excuse...


"Undecided" in this context means a struggle to decide between McCain and
Barr or some other third party.


Thus proving neither of you has the slightest clue about that of which
of speak...granted, if I had to pick one, right now, today, it would be
McCain, but it certainly wouldn't leave me feeling at ease with the
choice - I'd do it more to balance the loony, out-for-themselves Dems,
like Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer (Frank is a loon, too, but from what I
know about him, he's at least an honorable one...) than any other single
reason. OTOH, Obama winning wouldn't "upset" me terribly, either, esp.
if the Dems don't get a walk-through Congress. As to the economy,
taxes, Federal spending and other Fed income-outgo issues, taking each
at their word, they're both as full of **** as Christmas geese and
neither has the slightest clue about how to "fix" the situation. As to
abortion, it is the biggest red herring in politics - it's not going to
get banned, nor should it be, unless and until science says "life"
begins at some point before birth. I don't think it would be possible
to find even 2 people that would make it to the SC that would get near
it - it isn't a Federal legal issue and it has nothing whatsoever to do
with the Constitution.

As to Barr, etc., not even on my radar screen as far as voting for
him/them.

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] October 16th, 2008 03:34 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
LOL !! The day you vote for Obama I'll hop a train to Hamburg and
go on a date with The Loon.


Oh, yeah, right - you're just trying to use me as an excuse...

"Undecided" in this context means a struggle to decide between McCain and
Barr or some other third party.


Thus proving neither of you has the slightest clue about that of which
of speak...granted, if I had to pick one, right now, today, it would be
McCain, ...


Now there's a shocking revelation. ;-)

As to the economy,
taxes, Federal spending and other Fed income-outgo issues, taking each
at their word, they're both as full of **** as Christmas geese and
neither has the slightest clue about how to "fix" the situation. ...


Nobody has the slightest clue about how to fix this ****storm.
We're in uncharted territory and it's all going to be made up
as we go along. The question is whose team do you want calling
the shots. I'll take Volker, Buffet, Reich and Obama over McCain
and whoever is left on the nearly empty GOP bench.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[email protected] October 16th, 2008 05:30 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:34:08 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
LOL !! The day you vote for Obama I'll hop a train to Hamburg and
go on a date with The Loon.


Oh, yeah, right - you're just trying to use me as an excuse...

"Undecided" in this context means a struggle to decide between McCain and
Barr or some other third party.


Thus proving neither of you has the slightest clue about that of which
of speak...granted, if I had to pick one, right now, today, it would be
McCain, ...


Now there's a shocking revelation. ;-)

As to the economy,
taxes, Federal spending and other Fed income-outgo issues, taking each
at their word, they're both as full of **** as Christmas geese and
neither has the slightest clue about how to "fix" the situation. ...


Nobody has the slightest clue about how to fix this ****storm.


Wrong. Lots of people have lots good ideas...unfortunately, they are
not going to get folks re-elected, so...

We're in uncharted territory and it's all going to be made up
as we go along.


Wrong and probably so.

The question is whose team do you want calling
the shots. I'll take Volker, Buffet, Reich and Obama


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, SPLORK VANG MU, SNICKER, and
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!...and is that a Chinese Buffet or pizza buffet you hope
will help?

over McCain and whoever is left on the nearly empty GOP bench.


Either way, I'm sure that sniveling little (and I don't mean just
physically) **** Reich would blow a goat to get back in _any_ kind of
position that he sees as power, so whoever wins, I'm sure he'd be dying
to, er, "help." As to Volker, shades of Jimmy Carter. As to Buffett,
er, well, no. Not a bad man, just not up to fixing this mess, but I'm
sure he'd help whomever if asked, and I think both would ask.

HTH,
R
Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...

Scott Seidman October 16th, 2008 05:54 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
wrote in
:

Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...



"The surge worked!"...


Oops, wrong meme. "McCain didn't have any oil for five years"


Still not quite it. I really mean "Drill Baby Drill". That's the ticket.


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Ken Fortenberry[_2_] October 16th, 2008 05:54 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
As to the economy,
taxes, Federal spending and other Fed income-outgo issues, taking each
at their word, they're both as full of **** as Christmas geese and
neither has the slightest clue about how to "fix" the situation. ...

Nobody has the slightest clue about how to fix this ****storm.


Wrong. Lots of people have lots good ideas...


The only good idea I've seen so far came from across the pond.
Paulson didn't even have sense enough to ask for the ability
to purchase bank shares with gov't money. Good thing the Dems
were smart enough to include it in the bailout bill anyway.

We're in uncharted territory and it's all going to be made up
as we go along.


Wrong and probably so.


Oh, I forgot about that famous economist and investor Rick
Dean who knows all about derivatives, leverage and most
importantly crystal balls. I mean it's uncharted territory
for most of the financial world, the famous Rick Dean excepted,
of course.

The question is whose team do you want calling
the shots. I'll take Volker, Buffet, Reich and Obama


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, SPLORK VANG MU, SNICKER, and
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!...and is that a Chinese Buffet or pizza buffet you hope
will help?

over McCain and whoever is left on the nearly empty GOP bench.


Either way, I'm sure that sniveling little (and I don't mean just
physically) **** Reich would blow a goat to get back in _any_ kind of
position that he sees as power, so whoever wins, I'm sure he'd be dying
to, er, "help." As to Volker, shades of Jimmy Carter. As to Buffett,
er, well, no. Not a bad man, just not up to fixing this mess, but I'm
sure he'd help whomever if asked, and I think both would ask.


Too bad the famous Rick Dean isn't interested in government service.
Why this whole thing could be fixed in a couple of days.

Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...


Regular at $2.94 a gallon down from a high of $4.06 here in Chambana.
I don't know about crude.

--
Ken Fortenberry

JT October 16th, 2008 06:22 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 

wrote in message
...
Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...


It's down over a buck (best price around $2.99 gal, more common is $3.19 gal
from the mid summer highs ($4.19 ish gal), I wonder when/if the pump price
will reflect the price per barrel that is now less than half the summer high
of around $147.00 a barrel (currently less than $70.00 a barrel)? In my
estimation, the price at the pump should be closer to $2.00 a gal or less...

JT





rw October 16th, 2008 06:30 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
wrote:

Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...


Great plan for reducing gasoline prices: Wreck the world economy to
reduce demand.

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[email protected] October 16th, 2008 07:16 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:30:20 -0700, rw
wrote:

wrote:

Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...


Great plan for reducing gasoline prices: Wreck the world economy to
reduce demand.


Hmm...lessee...demand has fallen roughly 1% while prices have fallen
roughly 50%...again, supply and demand weren't the problem.

HTH,
R

[email protected] October 16th, 2008 07:28 PM

OT The latest defection ...
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:20 -0700, "JT"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Oh, BTW, oil and gasoline are down, what, half from where they were just
a few months ago...


It's down over a buck (best price around $2.99 gal, more common is $3.19 gal
from the mid summer highs ($4.19 ish gal), I wonder when/if the pump price
will reflect the price per barrel that is now less than half the summer high
of around $147.00 a barrel (currently less than $70.00 a barrel)? In my
estimation, the price at the pump should be closer to $2.00 a gal or less...


You estimate incorrectly, and it's down to $2.50ish on the Gulf Coast,
Texas and OK. There are 42 gallons of crude in a bbl, so for a _rough_
idea, excluding taxes, refining costs, etc., divide the price of oil by
40: 70 divided by 40 is $1.75 Add a minimum of about 40 cents tax
(maybe more, depending on where you are), and so, you're at $2.15, then
there's transport, blending costs, etc. (Commodity gasoline is $1.65 as
of this post). Plus, you aren't buying gasoline made with today's oil,
so there is some legit "lag," too. And then, there's ethanol to
consider, which is less per gallon, but that's as a commodity, not as a
final interblend ingredient at the pump (and FWIW, unless your vehicle
is designed for it, the more ethanol in the gasoline, the more net fuel
cost per mile you'll pay).

HTH,
R

JT





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