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Tom Littleton February 6th, 2009 10:06 PM

Kellogg boycott?
 

"rw" wrote in message
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rb608 wrote:

Now, the one incident may not have been the only
incident, but I seriously doubt Phelps is a chronic or habitual pot
smoker. One time gets you the label "doper"?


In the celebrity media world, yes it does.

my two cents, **** Kellogg's. It shows a over sensitivity to an event that
should blow over quickly(of course, not helped by media hype and the
swimming oversight body suspending him for 3 months. Were I Phelps(who, I
suspect might have made an adequate amount of money without the further
inflow from Kelloggs), I would immediately announce out of the next
Olympics, so the national Olympic Committee and Swimming Organization can
find another cash cow to milk.
Moreover, the really disturbing part of the story is that he was
photographed at a private college party in the first place. We are seeing,
before our eyes(and, thanks to the type of narrow-minded opinions express by
a couple of folks here),a complete erosion of personal privacy. And, it
isn't the government that has created big-brother, it is a bunch of average
types armed with cell-phone cams and the like, with so little moral fiber as
to be willing to sell out a 23 year old kid at a party. Once again, I am
reminded of Walt Kelly's line, "we have met the Enemy, and he is Us.".
Tom



Kiyu[_3_] February 6th, 2009 11:06 PM

Kellogg boycott?
 
my two cents, **** Kellogg's. It shows a over sensitivity to an event that
should blow over quickly(of course, not helped by media hype and the
swimming oversight body suspending him for 3 months. Were I Phelps(who, I
suspect might have made an adequate amount of money without the further
inflow from Kelloggs), I would immediately announce out of the next
Olympics, so the national Olympic Committee and Swimming Organization can
find another cash cow to milk.

He has said he is rethinking competing in 2012 and US Olympic
officials who need his medals for propaganda, tv folks who need his
medals to sell air time and UK officals who need him for Games revenue
generation must have gotten really nervous.

Moreover, the really disturbing part of the story is that he was
photographed at a private college party in the first place. We are seeing,
before our eyes(and, thanks to the type of narrow-minded opinions express by
a couple of folks here),a complete erosion of personal privacy.

And from the paper which published the photo:
"Phelps, who earned £4million last year in endorsements, has resumed
training for the 2012 games.
But there were fears about his commitment when, weeks after the bong
incident, he began dating former stripper Caroline Pal."

Oh No!!!! Where will it end. A stripper!!!
A sure sign of a lack of commitment.
A couple of hits off a bong (or bowls of Corn Flakes?) and the guy has
spiraled totally out of control.

Sure.

Having a stripper on his arm will probably do a lot more for the sales
of Corn Flakes (and bongs) than anything the advertisers could dream
up.

He has plucked the advertising birds for enough cash already to last
the rest of his life. I'd like to see him seek a High Times
endorsement.

Kiyu

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] February 6th, 2009 11:15 PM

Kellogg boycott?
 
wrote:
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I give 'em credit. I wish they'd all drop him, send a strong message
to our children. Maybe I'll go out and buy some cereal...


If you want to send a message to children, I suggest this one:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html

Strong enough for you ? ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim Lysyk February 7th, 2009 12:11 AM

Kellogg boycott?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
snip
I give 'em credit. I wish they'd all drop him, send a strong message
to our children. Maybe I'll go out and buy some cereal...


If you want to send a message to children, I suggest this one:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html

Strong enough for you ? ;-)


Thanks a good article. And I agree with it compeltely. The guy had a
toke. BFD.

Tim Lysyk

Tim Lysyk February 7th, 2009 12:13 AM

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Tim Lysyk wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
snip
I give 'em credit. I wish they'd all drop him, send a strong message
to our children. Maybe I'll go out and buy some cereal...


If you want to send a message to children, I suggest this one:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html

Strong enough for you ? ;-)


Thanks a good article. And I agree with it compeltely. The guy had a
toke. BFD.

Tim Lysyk

My spelling is way off today. I meant.....That is a good article, and I
agree with it completely.

Tim Lysyk

rb608 February 7th, 2009 01:30 AM

Kellogg boycott?
 
On Feb 6, 6:15*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
If you want to send a message to children, I suggest this one:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html


In two words, damned right.

Joe F.

[email protected] February 10th, 2009 02:54 PM

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On Feb 6, 4:15 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Strong enough for you ? ;-)


Just because all of us humans are fallible doesn't mean there
shouldn't be consequences to actions, or that to believe consequences
are good is hypocritical. If I do wrong things I expect that there
will be consequences (and I've had them in my life). Our society today
seems to want to beg out of any consequences for their actions. Just
last week I helped some store workers stop a couple of kids stealing.
The one kid kept saying "here's your stuff back, man, just let me go,
I'm just a stupid kid". He kept repeating "I'm just a stupid kid".
He'd obviously been through this before, and fully expected to walk
away with no consequences. The kids were old enough to be driving, so
they we're plenty old enough, they knew exactly what they were doing.
If they keep experiencing "no consequences", in two years they'll
graduate to houses, and convenience stores, and pretty soon will be
either killed or in prison. Sometimes "getting caught" is the best
thing that can happen to us. There's been times in my own life that's
been true.

Jon.
PS: As I've said before, if y'all want to work to legalize marijuana,
that's your right, but for now at least understand the current cost
behind a toke:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11637160
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_116225...e=most_emailed
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...k/6251540.html

rb608 February 10th, 2009 04:24 PM

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On Feb 10, 9:54*am, wrote:
PS: As I've said before, if y'all want to work to legalize marijuana,
that's your right, but for now at least understand the current cost
behind a toke


I'm sure we could discuss the supply and demand of illegal drugs and
establish a relationship between one bong hit and a violent death
elsewhere in the world; but I'll not even come close to considering
these deaths as the "cost behind a toke".

From the last of the three cites:"The brutal truth is that the
illegality of the drug trade creates a multibillion-dollar black-
market premium that attracts the greediest, most violence-prone
elements."

We've tried for decades to attack both the supply and demand, both
without success. One toke ain't going to change the world or get
anyone killed. What we need is a more sensible approach to
legalization, regulation, and taxation. In the mean time, I'm not
blaming Phelps or anyone else for the violence.

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] February 10th, 2009 04:41 PM

Kellogg boycott?
 
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Strong enough for you ? ;-)


Just because all of us humans are fallible doesn't mean there
shouldn't be consequences to actions, or that to believe consequences
are good is hypocritical. If I do wrong things I expect that there
will be consequences (and I've had them in my life). Our society today
seems to want to beg out of any consequences for their actions. ...


Did we read the same article ? Nowhere in there did I read anything
about not accepting the consequences. Here's what I read:

If a law is stupid, bad, immoral or unjust go ahead and break it,
good for you. Just remember that you might get banned from the
Olympics, have your endorsements yanked and be subjected to legal
penalties and the censure of the indignant. And whatever you do,
don't apologize.

Just pitch perfect for my advice to my kid.

YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Conan The Librarian February 10th, 2009 05:43 PM

Kellogg boycott?
 
On Feb 10, 8:54*am, wrote:

PS: As I've said before, if y'all want to work to legalize marijuana,
that's your right, but for now at least understand the current cost
behind a toke:http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdate...k/6251540.html


Jon,

Did you even read the articles you linked to? If anything, they
show the problems associated with keeping pot illegal.

If you need further explanation, just go read some about the time
they tried prohibition of alcohol. Think about black markets and all
that is associated with that.


Chuck Vance (it's no accident that we don't have gangland
warfare over moonshine)




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