Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

Has anyone had experience this year with fly rods,
reels, and other fly fishing gear as carry-ons and airport security?
Are policies consistent from airport to airport, or are they hit and
miss? Thanks for any help.

I took my pack rod as a carry-on during a trip this summer from Buffalo to
Newark to Asheville, NC to fish the mountains and had no problem. They did
open the tube at each check-in to examine it, but otherwise no problems.

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

Whether they're on the list or not, large flies for sal****er fishing are
considered possible weapons. I know a lot people who were told to check
them or toss them. I have heard of only one person that got some small
trout flies through. If you want to try to carry them on board, you had
better allow enough time to go back to the check-in counter or be prepared
to toss them. The security people don't lose arguements.



"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
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On 30 Dec 2003 08:40:55 -0800, (Robert
Brinson) wrote:

I'm planning on taking a trip in '04 to do some fly fishing, and I was
wanting to get a good 4 pc. rod for that and future trips. However,
with airport security being what it is these days, I did not know if
it is permissible to carry-on your fly rod. I would not want to have
to check it, as it would be too expensive an item to just get lost in
the luggage abyss. Has anyone had experience this year with fly rods,
reels, and other fly fishing gear as carry-ons and airport security?

It seems many report problems carrying flies onboard. I have had no
problems doing that, passing through ORD, FLL, MIA and a bunch of
international airports. As far as I can tell, the flies will not
trigger a hand-inspection when x-rayed, but other items may,
especially forceps. Make sure you keep your forceps (and other metal
based things which might look like scissors/knives in the xray) easily
accessible, so they will be found before going through all your stuff.
Also, just in case, keep a small lockable backback in your carryon, so
you got something to stuff your gear into, should you need to check
it.

Are policies consistent from airport to airport, or are they hit and
miss? Thanks for any help.

The TSA policy does not specifically cover flyfishing stuff, so you're
looking at an individual assessment. You can easily make a case that
your gear isn't any worse than many of the things on permitted list,
if the situation allows you to do so without getting into an argument,
the latter to be avoided at all costs.

http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

Some airports also have many different security points leading to the
same secured area, which will give you many retries should you
encounter the wrong guy.


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Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

I've been advised by airline industry people to pack my lines and flies.

USUALLY, no problem with reels (sans lines) or travel rods.

DW

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

If you must bring it on the plane, I suggest just checking all fly fishing
equipment, just make sure to insure all of it, which seems to keep it safe
and sound.

I would also recommend shipping it ahead of time to avoid the hassle all
together, if you have somewhere to ship it to (a hotel, or guide usually
would not object). At one of our Penns Creek Claves someone's rods (three
of them tied together) came up missing and he had to wait a few days for
them to find and deliver them, so definitely insure them (I don't believe he
did).

If you can ship it far enough ahead of time you can even check to make sure
it arrives O.K. before you leave and bring anything you forgot on the plane.
It may cost a bit extra, but you'll have peace of mind. You'll still have
to worry about your standard luggage, but it's also a lot less to bring back
and forth from the airport.

The Finn


"Robert Brinson" wrote in message
om...
I'm planning on taking a trip in '04 to do some fly fishing, and I was
wanting to get a good 4 pc. rod for that and future trips. However,
with airport security being what it is these days, I did not know if
it is permissible to carry-on your fly rod. I would not want to have
to check it, as it would be too expensive an item to just get lost in
the luggage abyss. Has anyone had experience this year with fly rods,
reels, and other fly fishing gear as carry-ons and airport security?
Are policies consistent from airport to airport, or are they hit and
miss? Thanks for any help.

Robert Brinson

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

I would also recommend shipping it ahead of time to avoid the hassle all
together, if you have somewhere to ship it to (a hotel, or guide usually
would not object). At one of our Penns Creek Claves someone's rods (three
of them tied together) came up missing and he had to wait a few days for
them to find and deliver them, so definitely insure them (I don't believe
he
did).


Just to clarify the three rods were misplaced on the plane, not during
shipping.

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

The key is insuring it for a hefty sum. They must hand it off with sign-off
as it travels. If you are still hesitant at doing this, ship it separately.

I would more paranoid about smaller items that you leave in your luggage
that you check such as reels, flies, etc. They can be stolen quite easily.
I think the main problem is just that, items getting stolen. Several items
have been stolen from close family and friends since 9/11, because there is
increased access to our luggage, and smaller items can be pocketed. I pack
all valuables separately and insure them.



"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:33:26 -0600, Christian Figenschou
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:00:07 -0500, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

If you must bring it on the plane, I suggest just checking all fly
fishing
equipment, just make sure to insure all of it, which seems to keep it
safe
and sound.

Strange piece of advice, I must say..

It works for me: I've never actually lost
luggage tho I've had it delivered late on
two occasions. My guess is that I have
checked luggage about 300 times.

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

The key is insuring it for a hefty sum. They must hand it off with sign-off
as it travels. If you are still hesitant at doing this, ship it separately.

I was at Marriots Fly shop in California a couple of years ago when a
guy came in with a multi-thousand dollar check from the airlines. He'd
insured and they'd lost six fly rods, with all of his accompanying
tackle (flies, reels...). He got a "personal shopper" to help him spend
his bucks. Talk about your kid in a candy shop.
Frank Reid

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

I'd hate to have to replace all of the gear, but a "personal shopper" and
thousands of dollars would be a good start.

Can't hurt to insure everything for more then they are worth to help reduce
the pain..

"Francis Reid" wrote in message
...
The key is insuring it for a hefty sum. They must hand it off with
sign-off
as it travels. If you are still hesitant at doing this, ship it
separately.

I was at Marriots Fly shop in California a couple of years ago when a
guy came in with a multi-thousand dollar check from the airlines. He'd
insured and they'd lost six fly rods, with all of his accompanying
tackle (flies, reels...). He got a "personal shopper" to help him spend
his bucks. Talk about your kid in a candy shop.
Frank Reid

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

I'd hate to have to replace all of the gear, but a "personal shopper" and
thousands of dollars would be a good start.

Can't hurt to insure everything for more then they are worth to help reduce
the pain..


"Francis Reid" wrote in message
...
The key is insuring it for a hefty sum. They must hand it off with
sign-off
as it travels. If you are still hesitant at doing this, ship it
separately.

I was at Marriots Fly shop in California a couple of years ago when a
guy came in with a multi-thousand dollar check from the airlines. He'd
insured and they'd lost six fly rods, with all of his accompanying
tackle (flies, reels...). He got a "personal shopper" to help him spend
his bucks. Talk about your kid in a candy shop.
Frank Reid

Airport Security and Travel Rods
 

"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:46:58 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote:

It works for me: I've never actually lost
luggage tho I've had it delivered late on
two occasions. My guess is that I have
checked luggage about 300 times.

But you would surely agree that the chances of it getting lost or
being delayed are dramatically bigger when checked compared to lugging
it on-board yourself?

Sure if you can get it on board, get through the security checks without
being strip searched, and not miss your flight.

F.Y.I. - I usually travel with a large aresenal of rods for a big trip, and
not all are travel rods. I've had to find the best way to get them there by
checking them. Shipping them is safer then checking them, but checking
them (w/insurance) is cheaper.