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"David LaCourse" wrote in message
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"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a someone with no heart.
Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

Sir W. C.

I'd love to know the real provenence of this one. I've seen it cited, in
variations, to Churchill, P.J.O'Rourke, and a few others. The common
variation is: If you're young and not a Democrat, you have no heart. If
you're old and not a Republican, you have no brain.
As with most such stuff, it's funny, but completely off the mark......some
of the smartest liberals I've ever known came to that position late in life.
On the other hands, I've seen keen support for a conservative position by
young men in my lifetime.
Tom

On 2010-04-11 12:35:53 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2010041112170011272-dplacourse@aolcom...
"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a someone with no heart.
Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

Sir W. C.

I'd love to know the real provenence of this one. I've seen it cited, in
variations, to Churchill, P.J.O'Rourke, and a few others. The common
variation is: If you're young and not a Democrat, you have no heart. If
you're old and not a Republican, you have no brain.
As with most such stuff, it's funny, but completely off the mark......some
of the smartest liberals I've ever known came to that position late in life.
On the other hands, I've seen keen support for a conservative position by
young men in my lifetime.
Tom

I don't know about the young part, but all one has to do is look at our
Vice President for the old part.
d:o)

Dave

On Apr 11, 10:35*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"David LaCourse" wrote in message

news:2010041112170011272-dplacourse@aolcom...

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a someone with no heart..
Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Sir W. C.

I'd love to know the real provenence of this one. I've seen it cited, in
variations, to Churchill, P.J.O'Rourke, and a few others. The common
variation is: If you're young and not a Democrat, you have no heart. If
you're old and not a Republican, you have no brain.
As with most such stuff, it's funny, but completely off the mark......some
of the smartest liberals I've ever known came to that position late in life.
On the other hands, I've seen keen support for a conservative position by
young men in my lifetime.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

Another misattributed quote. See http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill
under "Misattributed Quotes".

It wasn't Churchill at all, and, in fact, one of the sources in the
above article (reproduced below) says it is unlikely Churchill would
have said any such thing.

From the above article, the quote actually is " If you're not a
liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a
conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
According to research by Mark T. Shirey, citing Nice Guys Finish
Seventh: False Phrases, Spurious Sayings, and Familiar Misquotations
by Ralph Keyes, 1992, this quote was first uttered by mid-nineteenth
century historian and statesman François Guizot when he observed, Not
to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is
proof of want of head. This quote has been attributed variously to
George Bernard Shaw, Benjamin Disraeli, Otto von Bismarck, and others.
Furthermore, the Churchill Centre, on its Falsely Attributed
Quotations page, states "there is no record of anyone hearing
Churchill say this." Paul Addison of Edinburgh University is quoted as
stating: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to
him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! And would he
have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to
have been a lifelong Liberal?""

Tim Lysyk

On Apr 11, 5:34*pm, troutsky wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:35*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"David LaCourse" wrote in message

news:2010041112170011272-dplacourse@aolcom...

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a someone with no heart.

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2010041112452227544-dplacourse@aolcom...
I don't know about the young part, but all one has to do is look at our
Vice President for the old part.
d:o)
having known, personally, Joe Biden for roughly 25 years more than I've
known you, David, trust me one this:
You couldn't come remotely close to that man's mental capacity in your best
day ever. Don't let the misspeaks and such throw you, the man is sharp as a
tack, funny as hell to be around and with more personal integrity and
fortitude than you could ever muster. Throw your stones elsewhere, because
you're in a glass house with that one.
Tom

On 2010-04-12 17:40:46 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2010041112452227544-dplacourse@aolcom...
I don't know about the young part, but all one has to do is look at our
Vice President for the old part.
d:o)
having known, personally, Joe Biden for roughly 25 years more than I've
known you, David, trust me one this:
You couldn't come remotely close to that man's mental capacity in your best
day ever. Don't let the misspeaks and such throw you, the man is sharp as a
tack, funny as hell to be around and with more personal integrity and
fortitude than you could ever muster. Throw your stones elsewhere, because
you're in a glass house with that one.
Tom

Well, he makes Quayle look like a genius. He's a huckster and a
politician (but wait, I repeat myself). A Vice President should NOT be
as dumb as he appears to me. Is he smarter than me? Who shives a git.
He should be brilliant, which he ain't. Ya know why Obama chose him?
Life insurance, plain and simple. I don't believe Obama is doing a
good job at anything, but I sure as hell wouldn't want Biden sitting in
the Oval Office.

You really like that Kool Aid, eh? rolls eyes

You really believe it all. Sad. Biden is the gift that keeps on
giving. I'm glad for more reasons than one that Obama selected him for
veep.

Dave

On Apr 12, 4:58*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-04-12 17:40:46 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2010041112452227544-dplacourse@aolcom...
I don't know about the young part, but all one has to do is look at our
Vice President for the old part.
d:o)
having known, personally, Joe Biden for roughly 25 years more than I've
known you, David, trust me one this:
You couldn't come remotely close to that man's mental capacity in your best
day ever. Don't let the misspeaks and such throw you, the man is sharp as a
tack, funny as hell to be around and with more personal integrity and
fortitude than you could ever muster. Throw your stones elsewhere, because
you're in a glass house with that one.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Well, he makes Quayle look like a genius. *He's a huckster and a
politician (but wait, I repeat myself). *A Vice President should NOT be
as dumb as he appears to me. *Is he smarter than me? *Who shives a git.

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2010041217585150878-dplacourse@aolcom...

like I said, Dave, I've seen both of you up close and personal. I've talked
and shared meals with both of you. I 've talked politics and world affairs
with both of you. You don't come close, either intellectually or
in terms of ethics and character. No Kool Aid here, dude,
just personal experience and sound judgement.
Tom