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Dave LaCourse June 14th, 2004 01:34 AM

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Full Immersion Frank writes:

I'll have you know that I got out of my little dip in the Rapid on my own,
the only thing not intact was my pride.


My "WWFD" button fell off my vest while wading at the top of Second Current. I
bent over to pick it up. Once it was in my hand, I lost my balance and did a
Full Reid. Although the water was only two feet deep, I had a heck of a time
getting up. I put the button in a vest pocket and dried off as best I could.
On the very next cast, while stripping the line in, the button's pin stabbed me
in the left forearm. Deep, painfull and bloody.

It is now on the vest with a little piece of 200 mph tape holding the point in
place. Surprisingly, few people have asked me about its meaning, but those
that do get a two or three minute description of who and what a Frank Reid is.

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








daytripper June 14th, 2004 01:41 AM

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On 14 Jun 2004 00:34:06 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Full Immersion Frank writes:

I'll have you know that I got out of my little dip in the Rapid on my own,
the only thing not intact was my pride.


My "WWFD" button fell off my vest while wading at the top of Second Current. I
bent over to pick it up. Once it was in my hand, I lost my balance and did a
Full Reid. Although the water was only two feet deep, I had a heck of a time
getting up. I put the button in a vest pocket and dried off as best I could.
On the very next cast, while stripping the line in, the button's pin stabbed me
in the left forearm. Deep, painfull and bloody.

It is now on the vest with a little piece of 200 mph tape holding the point in
place. Surprisingly, few people have asked me about its meaning, but those
that do get a two or three minute description of who and what a Frank Reid is.


Not to mention a live demonstration ;-)

/daytripper (Probably a good thing they were running under 400cfs...)

Dave LaCourse June 14th, 2004 01:52 AM

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DT writes:

Not to mention a live demonstration ;-)

/daytripper (Probably a good thing they were running under 400cfs...)


Hey, I've gotten ashore after falling off the X rock at Second Current with 900
cfs flowing. Long slow swim to the rocks below Third Current. Lost my hat and
mag-eyes, but saved an old GL3 5 weight. 'Course, I was younger then.....
d;o(
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Wayne Harrison June 14th, 2004 02:11 AM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote

Hey, I've gotten ashore after falling off the X rock at Second Current

with 900
cfs flowing. Long slow swim to the rocks below Third Current. Lost my

hat and
mag-eyes, but saved an old GL3 5 weight. 'Course, I was younger

then.....
d;o(


must have been around the late 40's...and to think that i was only
eight...

yfitons
wayno



Dave LaCourse June 14th, 2004 02:27 AM

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Wayno writes:

must have been around the late 40's...and to think that i was only
eight...


Yep, about ten years before Jo was born. d;o)






Flyfish June 14th, 2004 02:49 AM

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irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote in
:

Flyfish writes:

Well my latest Orvis newsletter came in yesterday with a "nice" little
article pimping for restoration money that claims "the best brook
trout fishery" is the rapid.

That will go a long way to lowering the pressure. Idiots.


This week-end is the great bass tournament at Pond in the River. The
fish and game folks told me there would be 40 people fishing the Pond
in hopes of getting rid of some of the bass. They will be lucky if
they catch 40 bass total. The best way to rid the river of bass is to
turn it into a cold water fishery instead of the warm water one it now
is. FPL's total mismanagement of the water flow is part of the
problem. The bass have been in Umbagog since 1984 and have only
recently become a problem. The Richardsons were overflowing with
water in early winter, but instead of bleeding it off normally, they
opened uf the dam and lowered the lake by 7 feet. It is about 5 feet
low right now and the 390 cfs remains. If you call TU and speak to
the Maine bigwigs, you will think you are talking to FPL's CEO.


TU in Maine has lost their statewide focus. They are totally focused on
Shawmut and their "world class" brown trout tailwater. Hardly surprising
since the Kennebec Valley TU took credit for the Edwards dam removal
(despite opposing it originally) that the Maine TU is dominated by
Kennebec Valley after this "stunning" success. TU is kissing FPL's ass
because they want fish ladders on all of FPL's dams on the Kennebec
(which is all the dams I believe). FPL has played the political game well
on the ladders and are likely to get the law changed so they don't
"have" to remove the dam on the Sebasticook in Winslow. FPL said they
were going to breach that dam rather than put a ladder in because it's
too expensive. This caused local outrage and there is now an effort to
"exempt" certain dams from the need for ladders. I expect that FPL will
get key exemptions on the Kennebec which negate the need for ladders
upstream. It worked with the Edwards dam for over 1/2 a century. This
will take at least a decade to play out, and TU will have been their
unwitting partner in not installing the ladders, all because they think
they're going to have atlantic salmon runs of a million fish in 30 years.
What they're really going to have is a great northern pike and smallmouth
fishery.

The bass tourney is just more of their fantasy. You will not clean the
smallmouth out by killing a few. In fact, I do not believe you can clean
the smallmouth out, they do quite well in coldwater elsewhere in the
State.

Also, if the flow is 390 cfs (like it has been since May 14), the
river is easy to fish and the locals flock in. Put the flow at 900
and the fishing pressure is lowered because the "catching" is harder.
Harry (the dam keeper and local poll taker for fish and game) counted
51 people on the river on Memorial Day, from Cedar Stump all the way
to Upper Dam. Sounds like alot of pressure, but it was easy to find a
place to fish.


Haven't been this year. My guide buddy tells me it's a zoo on weekends.

I've heard from a number of people that the Lower Dam structure will
be removed this August. The state fears that if it collapses into the
river below the dam, it will be a negative impact on the brookie
spawning beds. So, if you do not have some pictures of it, best to
take a few now before it becomes history.
Too bad, really. They will leave the wooden shoots and rock
structures.


Sad to hear that. I did get some nice shots last fall.

Also, the condo prolem is dead - or so I've heard. They can't find a
way to get the people in except by boat. However, two cabins *will*
be built on Rifle Point between the cove and the dam. Even more
pressure, but not as bad as it would have been with twelve condos.
Dave


Hadn't heard the condos were dead, but they'll be back in a year or two
bigger and better wait and see. Someone decided that the camps were more
important to build first. Someone at FPL probably.

Flyfish


Frank Reid June 14th, 2004 03:11 AM

Rapid River article
 
My "WWFD" button fell off my vest while wading at the top of Second
Current. I
bent over to pick it up. Once it was in my hand, I lost my balance and

did a
Full Reid. Although the water was only two feet deep, I had a heck of a

time
getting up. I put the button in a vest pocket and dried off as best I

could.
On the very next cast, while stripping the line in, the button's pin

stabbed me
in the left forearm. Deep, painfull and bloody.


Ah, those pins were imbued with some bad juju. I've lost two of my three
during dunkings. Next time, hell with the pin. I wanna fish with you up
there next year, so I'll wear the damn thing for the rest of the year.

It is now on the vest with a little piece of 200 mph tape holding the

point in
place.


What's the translation between 200 mph and cfs?

--
Frank Reid
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Dave LaCourse June 14th, 2004 03:44 AM

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Flyfish writes:

Hadn't heard the condos were dead, but they'll be back in a year or two
bigger and better wait and see. Someone decided that the camps were more
important to build first. Someone at FPL probably.


Three Islands won't allow the traffic on their access road, nor access from
the south via Black Cat Road. Only way in is by boat. There isn't enough
parking at the Oxford public parking at South Arm, so I don't see the condos
coming in for awhile, anyway. They will eventually find a way, and TU will
help them. *******s!
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Mudfish\(Co30\) June 14th, 2004 12:36 PM

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"Flyfish" wrote in message
...
irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote in
:

Flyfish writes:

Well my latest Orvis newsletter came in yesterday with a "nice" little
article pimping for restoration money that claims "the best brook
trout fishery" is the rapid.

That will go a long way to lowering the pressure. Idiots.


This week-end is the great bass tournament at Pond in the River. The
fish and game folks told me there would be 40 people fishing the Pond
in hopes of getting rid of some of the bass. They will be lucky if
they catch 40 bass total. The best way to rid the river of bass is to
turn it into a cold water fishery instead of the warm water one it now
is. FPL's total mismanagement of the water flow is part of the
problem. The bass have been in Umbagog since 1984 and have only
recently become a problem. The Richardsons were overflowing with
water in early winter, but instead of bleeding it off normally, they
opened uf the dam and lowered the lake by 7 feet. It is about 5 feet
low right now and the 390 cfs remains. If you call TU and speak to
the Maine bigwigs, you will think you are talking to FPL's CEO.


TU in Maine has lost their statewide focus. They are totally focused on
Shawmut and their "world class" brown trout tailwater. Hardly surprising
since the Kennebec Valley TU took credit for the Edwards dam removal
(despite opposing it originally) that the Maine TU is dominated by
Kennebec Valley after this "stunning" success. TU is kissing FPL's ass
because they want fish ladders on all of FPL's dams on the Kennebec
(which is all the dams I believe). FPL has played the political game well
on the ladders and are likely to get the law changed so they don't
"have" to remove the dam on the Sebasticook in Winslow. FPL said they
were going to breach that dam rather than put a ladder in because it's
too expensive. This caused local outrage and there is now an effort to
"exempt" certain dams from the need for ladders. I expect that FPL will
get key exemptions on the Kennebec which negate the need for ladders
upstream. It worked with the Edwards dam for over 1/2 a century. This
will take at least a decade to play out, and TU will have been their
unwitting partner in not installing the ladders, all because they think
they're going to have atlantic salmon runs of a million fish in 30 years.
What they're really going to have is a great northern pike and smallmouth
fishery.

The bass tourney is just more of their fantasy. You will not clean the
smallmouth out by killing a few. In fact, I do not believe you can clean
the smallmouth out, they do quite well in coldwater elsewhere in the
State.

Also, if the flow is 390 cfs (like it has been since May 14), the
river is easy to fish and the locals flock in. Put the flow at 900
and the fishing pressure is lowered because the "catching" is harder.
Harry (the dam keeper and local poll taker for fish and game) counted
51 people on the river on Memorial Day, from Cedar Stump all the way
to Upper Dam. Sounds like alot of pressure, but it was easy to find a
place to fish.


Haven't been this year. My guide buddy tells me it's a zoo on weekends.

I've heard from a number of people that the Lower Dam structure will
be removed this August. The state fears that if it collapses into the
river below the dam, it will be a negative impact on the brookie
spawning beds. So, if you do not have some pictures of it, best to
take a few now before it becomes history.
Too bad, really. They will leave the wooden shoots and rock
structures.


Sad to hear that. I did get some nice shots last fall.

Also, the condo prolem is dead - or so I've heard. They can't find a
way to get the people in except by boat. However, two cabins *will*
be built on Rifle Point between the cove and the dam. Even more
pressure, but not as bad as it would have been with twelve condos.
Dave


Hadn't heard the condos were dead, but they'll be back in a year or two
bigger and better wait and see. Someone decided that the camps were more
important to build first. Someone at FPL probably.

Flyfish


Flyfish is completely right. We have watched TU's silly games here for way
long. TU will be whining hard when it comes time for the fish ladder
that will let the stripers into their golden playground at Shawmut. THEN
they
will suddenly want a ladder *with inspection/sorting* to keep the stripers
out,
else they loose their playground in about a year, like we did the trout
fishery on
the Kennebec from Waterville to Augusta when they took Edwards out.

People with a cause but no clue are extremely dangerous to themselves
and others, and those folks are sure clueless, especially the " Saviours of
the
Kennebec Atlantic Salmon" (of which there may actually be two , hybidized
with stocked landlocks).

As to condo's, Two camps will lead to condo's. Its the foot in the door
thing.
Thats simply the way things are done here in Maine, one weasel-a-way at a
time.
Once those are there it will only be a matter of time. People who can afford
them will also be able to afford a 20 minute float plane ride to get to
them, and
hiring a boat once a month to come in with a load of propane for the
generators.
Enough money will swing a overland right of way sooner or later.


--
{{ MudFish{('

"Careful with that Axe Eugene."






daytripper June 14th, 2004 11:30 PM

Rapid River article
 
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:36:31 -0400, "Mudfish\(Co30\)"
wrote:

Flyfish is completely right. We have watched TU's silly games here for way
long. TU will be whining hard when it comes time for the fish ladder
that will let the stripers into their golden playground at Shawmut. THEN
they will suddenly want a ladder *with inspection/sorting* to keep the stripers
out, else they loose their playground in about a year, like we did the trout
fishery on the Kennebec from Waterville to Augusta when they took Edwards out.

People with a cause but no clue are extremely dangerous to themselves
and others, and those folks are sure clueless, especially the " Saviours of
the Kennebec Atlantic Salmon" (of which there may actually be two , hybidized
with stocked landlocks).

As to condo's, Two camps will lead to condo's. Its the foot in the door
thing. Thats simply the way things are done here in Maine, one weasel-a-way at a
time. Once those are there it will only be a matter of time. People who can afford
them will also be able to afford a 20 minute float plane ride to get to
them, and hiring a boat once a month to come in with a load of propane for the
generators.
Enough money will swing a overland right of way sooner or later.


Geeze, Ed! First post for you in - what, years? - and you're just a barrel of
laughs...But, between you and me, I'm waiting for the guided float trips next.

Speaking of float trips: ya gotta take a float using Dave's new toys, they're
a blast!

/daytripper (Maybe even take Dave for a drag behind your jet boat ;-)


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