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Phil L January 11th, 2004 10:01 PM

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Zoe wrote:
: Cheers. I must admit, I have never used a Zig Rig.

Basically it's a leger, but the bait dosent sit on the bottom, it trys to
float as its bouyant, bread, fake corn etc - you can set the depth you want
it to float up from the bottom by the length of line from your leger stop to
the hook.
:
: Do you usually fish it as a single hook bait?
:

One grain of artificial corn isn't very bouyant and will not rise up too
well, it's better to use a few.....
i usually use two fake grains and one real piece of sweetcorn for
authenticity !



Richard January 11th, 2004 11:01 PM

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"Phil L" wrote in message
...
Zoe wrote:
: Cheers. I must admit, I have never used a Zig Rig.

Basically it's a leger, but the bait dosent sit on the bottom, it trys to
float as its bouyant, bread, fake corn etc - you can set the depth you

want
it to float up from the bottom by the length of line from your leger stop

to
the hook.


You can alternatively, with a boyant bait, vary the depth direct from the
reel and ditch the stop idea.

Richard




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Phil L January 11th, 2004 11:30 PM

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Richard wrote:
: "Phil L" wrote in message
: ...
:: Zoe wrote:
::: Cheers. I must admit, I have never used a Zig Rig.
::
:: Basically it's a leger, but the bait dosent sit on the bottom, it
:: trys to float as its bouyant, bread, fake corn etc - you can set the
:: depth you want it to float up from the bottom by the length of line
:: from your leger stop to the hook.
::
:
: You can alternatively, with a boyant bait, vary the depth direct from
: the reel and ditch the stop idea.
:
: Richard
:

what stops the leger hitting the hook?



Pepperoni January 12th, 2004 01:55 AM

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"Dave Smith" wrote in message
...

.. Here (US), I prefer prepared
salmon eggs as bait in winter (treated to make them firm) , fished on

tiny
trebles. This makes a nice cluster with a single egg on each hook.

This
bait attracts numerous species, but may not be legal bait on designated
trout water. (laws vary greatly by location) Curiously, corn is also
illegal in some States and locales.

Trebles?
for Pike (Muskie) yes but surly not for Carp?
Do you guys use hair rigs?

Dave


The trebles I describe for fishing salmon eggs are tiny, actually smaller
than the size of a single salmon egg. They are smaller and lighter than
many "normal" hooks that you might use. The tiny trebles are popular with
steelhead fishermen, and the holding power of these tiny hooks is
incredible.

These hooks are difficult to find, generally. We purchase them "up north",
where they are better known and more available. The tackle shops on the
trout and salmon streams have them available in bulk packs.

The salmon fishermen *DO* tend to use larger trebles for fishing bait under
floats. They use "skein" eggs, which are still held in the membrane.
(before the eggs loosen for spawning). These are floated under sliding
floats and usually a much larger mass than the stream fishermen use.
"Loose" eggs are often tied into mesh sacks containing only 3-6 single eggs,
with small colored styrofoam bits sometimes added for flotation.

Hair rigs are not widely known here. Our attitude concerning carp are also
quite different from yours. Carp are generally considered a nuisance, and
some states and locales prohibit their return to the water, once taken. We
currently have several exotic carp species being dispersed throughout our
river systems. One of these species is known for being disturbed by boat
motors and leaping into boats (with injuries to fishermen reported) These
are huge, and remind me of tarpon jumping. At least one of these exotic
carp species are filter feeders and not likely to be heavily harvested using
bait. They were imported into the south years ago to control algae growth
in commercial catfish rearing ponds, and escaped into the Mississippi
drainage due to flooding.

I like fishing for carp. I fish a small river near my home, and enjoy the
fight. Corn is the best bait, and properly presented, this bait produces
regular action.



Bryan Hall January 12th, 2004 05:03 PM

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The ledger stop ;-)

"Phil L" wrote in message
...
Richard wrote:
: "Phil L" wrote in message
: ...
:: Zoe wrote:
::: Cheers. I must admit, I have never used a Zig Rig.
::
:: Basically it's a leger, but the bait dosent sit on the bottom, it
:: trys to float as its bouyant, bread, fake corn etc - you can set the
:: depth you want it to float up from the bottom by the length of line
:: from your leger stop to the hook.
::
:
: You can alternatively, with a boyant bait, vary the depth direct from
: the reel and ditch the stop idea.
:
: Richard
:

what stops the leger hitting the hook?





Richard January 12th, 2004 11:49 PM

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"Bryan Hall" wrote in message
...
The ledger stop ;-)


Ok then ..... in the broadest sense ... just that I assumed he didn't mean
at the reel, but I get your drift (very well) ...... Stay well ......
Richard



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