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"Frank Church" wrote in message
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Ramapo River

.....dang, that name rings a bell but I can't place it. Where it be at? I
et a smallmouth bass oncet, damn tasty fish.

Frank Church


Olympic peninsula near the Elwha ?

Bob

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"Frank Church" wrote in message
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Ramapo River

.....dang, that name rings a bell but I can't place it. Where it be at? I
et a smallmouth bass oncet, damn tasty fish.

Frank Church


Olympic peninsula near the Elwha ?

Bob

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"Tim J." wrote in message
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I've never seen a trout with bright orange meat. Are you SURE you didn't
latch
into a land-locked salmon? They look very similar to a trout, but are
usually
not legal to take out of the river under a certain size.
--
TL,
Tim

fairly common around here- believe it has to do with diet. used to catch
lots of beautiful bright orange fleshed fish out of Canyon Ferry, Holter,
&
Hauser (Missouri river chain) - Georgetown Lake has a mixed bag, from
nearly
white to bright orange.

john

Could also be a hatchery fish. Hope so.
I've seen fish in western NC with salmon-colored flesh and am almost certain
they came from a hatchery, since they were in delayed-harvest water.
Bob

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Bob Patton wrote:

Could also be a hatchery fish. Hope so.
I've seen fish in western NC with salmon-colored flesh and am almost certain
they came from a hatchery, since they were in delayed-harvest water.

There's a diet supplement for hatchery trout that makes their flesh
orange. It's disgusting and repulsive, but true.

That said, I find freshly planted hatchery fish, regardless of color, to
be very palatable when cooked properly, by which I mean quickly pan
fried in canola oil, at the highest practical heat (just short of
smoking, and with a coating of flour, salt and pepper, with lemon slices
on the side. They probably have a better diet than wild fish.

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There's a Ramapo River in New Jersey.

New Jersey stocked trout have more of a white flesh. In my experience the
flesh turns more pink the longer the fish is in the wild and hold-overs have
very pink flesh.

Gene

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
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Ramapo River

.....dang, that name rings a bell but I can't place it. Where it be at? I
et a smallmouth bass oncet, damn tasty fish.

Frank Church

first rainbow on fly
 

There's a Ramapo River in New Jersey.

New Jersey stocked trout have more of a white flesh. In my experience the
flesh turns more pink the longer the fish is in the wild and hold-overs have
very pink flesh.

Gene

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
(Sam Matthews) wrote in news:6892a073.0408091015.193a8ab4
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Ramapo River

.....dang, that name rings a bell but I can't place it. Where it be at? I
et a smallmouth bass oncet, damn tasty fish.

Frank Church

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On 8/10/04 1:41 AM, in article ,
"David Snedeker" wrote:

Folks interested in the area might also be interested that Ringwood State
Park, in the nearby Ramapo "Mountains" (a ridge actually) was the estate of
Edward Hewitt. Hewitt is right up there with Theodore Gordon and George La
Branche as a pioneer of American dry fly fishing. In 1948 at age 80, he
published "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-five Years," which I
highly recommend. The '48 book included rewrites of Hewitt's 1922 and 1926
books as well write ups of all his scientific and practical work on trout
behavior and habitat. It also has what I consider one of the most amazing
fishing stories of all time wherein Hewitt recounts his experiences in
1880-81, as a 15 year old fishing in Yellowstone waters to feed General Phil
Sheridan's Indian fighting troopers.

Nice. Thanks David! Just so happens to be in our collection, but I haven't
read it yet. :-)

Bill

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On 8/10/04 1:41 AM, in article ,
"David Snedeker" wrote:

Folks interested in the area might also be interested that Ringwood State
Park, in the nearby Ramapo "Mountains" (a ridge actually) was the estate of
Edward Hewitt. Hewitt is right up there with Theodore Gordon and George La
Branche as a pioneer of American dry fly fishing. In 1948 at age 80, he
published "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-five Years," which I
highly recommend. The '48 book included rewrites of Hewitt's 1922 and 1926
books as well write ups of all his scientific and practical work on trout
behavior and habitat. It also has what I consider one of the most amazing
fishing stories of all time wherein Hewitt recounts his experiences in
1880-81, as a 15 year old fishing in Yellowstone waters to feed General Phil
Sheridan's Indian fighting troopers.

Nice. Thanks David! Just so happens to be in our collection, but I haven't
read it yet. :-)

Bill

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"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
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There's a Ramapo River in New Jersey.

New Jersey stocked trout have more of a white flesh. In my experience
the
flesh turns more pink the longer the fish is in the wild and hold-overs
have
very pink flesh.

If they have access to freshwater shrimp their flesh can go pink.

The Ramapo is a serious trout stream. Starts in New York State just below
West Point and goes about 20 river miles before crossing into New Jersey.
In
Jersey it flows another 15-20 miles then goes into Pompton Lakes, and then
the Passaic River. Its hard for some folks to accept that New Jersey still
has some great water and that the State has made a concerted effort for
decades to take care of its cold waters.

Folks interested in the area might also be interested that Ringwood State
Park, in the nearby Ramapo "Mountains" (a ridge actually) was the estate
of
Edward Hewitt. Hewitt is right up there with Theodore Gordon and George La
Branche as a pioneer of American dry fly fishing.
(stuff snipped)
Dave

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the neat recollection. I fished it, me thinks, and other
rivers/streams in the area from '86--90, while doing a military assignment
thingee at West Point. I seem to recall they stocked it heavily in the
Spring, and there was something like a 1% carryover rate at the time. . .
the game biologist at West Point told me. Mostly put and take. I fished it
on the New York side mostly, but may have had a New Jersey license as well.
( heh . . .heh . . .but there were some pools and riffles that were pretty
okay . . .if you could sort through the private land stuff, all through the
year)
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

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rw wrote:

Bob Patton wrote:


Could also be a hatchery fish. Hope so.
I've seen fish in western NC with salmon-colored flesh and am almost
certain
they came from a hatchery, since they were in delayed-harvest water.


There's a diet supplement for hatchery trout that makes their flesh
orange. It's disgusting and repulsive, but true.

That said, I find freshly planted hatchery fish, regardless of color, to
be very palatable when cooked properly, by which I mean quickly pan
fried in canola oil, at the highest practical heat (just short of
smoking, and with a coating of flour, salt and pepper, with lemon slices
on the side.

To me, they have the texture of mush and have as much flavor. But maybe
you do have the secret to cooking them. You'll have to cook some up for
me sometime and maybe I'll change my mind.


They probably have a better diet than wild fish.


Better diet?

Reminds me of a bad 60's Sci Fi flick with people eating a couple pills
for a meal.

Willi