fishin for trout in lakes
 

"rw" wrote in message
...
snakefiddler wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
...

snakefiddler wrote:


my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout
in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Yes. Definitely. It's another world.


and with that helpful bit of information, i feel totally prepared.
thanks,
r. w.
geez

All right, see if you can get this. I have no idea what kind of lakes
you fish. There are as many different kinds of lakes as there are kinds
of streams. Your question is ridiculous. It's like asking, "In the
absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in streams, does one
approach fly selection differently than when fishing
lakes?" Read a damn book or two.

Asking such a broad question (no pun intended) strikes me as an
attention-getting device. (Not there's anything wrong with that, up to a
point).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

then all you had to say is something like," how one approaches fishing for
trout in lakes varies depending on the type of lake. it is a question
difficult to answer without having more specific information, but maybe
there are some resources out there with more information."

-and i have read one book so far on fly fishing- john gierach's fly fishing
small streams. sorry i couldn't read every resource all at once. and what
the hell was i thinking asking a fly fishing related question on a fly
fishing newsgroup? maybe i should stick to off topic stuff? oh, wait, that
didn't work either.......

snakefiddler

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"rw" wrote in message
...
snakefiddler wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
...

snakefiddler wrote:


my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout
in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Yes. Definitely. It's another world.


and with that helpful bit of information, i feel totally prepared.
thanks,
r. w.
geez

All right, see if you can get this. I have no idea what kind of lakes
you fish. There are as many different kinds of lakes as there are kinds
of streams. Your question is ridiculous. It's like asking, "In the
absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in streams, does one
approach fly selection differently than when fishing
lakes?" Read a damn book or two.

Asking such a broad question (no pun intended) strikes me as an
attention-getting device. (Not there's anything wrong with that, up to a
point).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

then all you had to say is something like," how one approaches fishing for
trout in lakes varies depending on the type of lake. it is a question
difficult to answer without having more specific information, but maybe
there are some resources out there with more information."

-and i have read one book so far on fly fishing- john gierach's fly fishing
small streams. sorry i couldn't read every resource all at once. and what
the hell was i thinking asking a fly fishing related question on a fly
fishing newsgroup? maybe i should stick to off topic stuff? oh, wait, that
didn't work either.......

snakefiddler

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"John" wrote in message
...
"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son
"always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large
sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs
with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John



thanks john, i'll try it. i'll be back out there because it is a nice,
un-crowded place that my son and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"John" wrote in message
...
"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son
"always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large
sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs
with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John



thanks john, i'll try it. i'll be back out there because it is a nice,
un-crowded place that my son and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
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fishin for trout in lakes
 

snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...


snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


thanks, frank. sounds like we'll stick to the lakes we can boat in.

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...


snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


thanks, frank. sounds like we'll stick to the lakes we can boat in.

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing
poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry
flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs
and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



helpful stuff- thanks
snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing
poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry
flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs
and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



helpful stuff- thanks
snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

snake sez:
i'll be back out there because it is a nice, un-crowded place that my son
and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

Then you may want to team-fish with him. Both of you use damsel fly and/or
dragon fly nympths. You with a sink tip and he with a bubble 1/2 to 2/3
full of water to make it sink. He can cast a country mile with his bubble
and get way out into deep water and you can shore fish. Since both of you
use the same fly your team-fishing would be testing the difference between
fishing close to shore vs. fishing out in deeper water. Which technique
works best? Try it and let us know!
Good luck!
John

fishin for trout in lakes
 

snake sez:
i'll be back out there because it is a nice, un-crowded place that my son
and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

Then you may want to team-fish with him. Both of you use damsel fly and/or
dragon fly nympths. You with a sink tip and he with a bubble 1/2 to 2/3
full of water to make it sink. He can cast a country mile with his bubble
and get way out into deep water and you can shore fish. Since both of you
use the same fly your team-fishing would be testing the difference between
fishing close to shore vs. fishing out in deeper water. Which technique
works best? Try it and let us know!
Good luck!
John

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"John" wrote in message
...
snake sez:
i'll be back out there because it is a nice, un-crowded place that my
son
and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

Then you may want to team-fish with him. Both of you use damsel fly
and/or
dragon fly nympths. You with a sink tip and he with a bubble 1/2 to 2/3
full of water to make it sink. He can cast a country mile with his bubble
and get way out into deep water and you can shore fish. Since both of you
use the same fly your team-fishing would be testing the difference between
fishing close to shore vs. fishing out in deeper water. Which technique
works best? Try it and let us know!
Good luck!
John


sounds like fun. the fact that he can cast so much further than i with his
spin rod may be the reason he got that trout.

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

snakefiddler wrote:

wrote in message

And seriously, "snake," any chance of your doing an occasional snipping
when you reply?

yeah, ya know- i could have done a little snipping there- i'll give ya that
one. still, it really wasn't that big a deal. just don't read the ****, if
you don't want to.

I (and many people outside the U.S.) have relatively costly by-the-minute
dial-up access. Many stay on line only long enough to send messages in a
batch, download emails and NG messages in a batch, then read and write off
line. One or two posts quoting 100+ lines--the entirety of several
preceding posts--with the sole addition of ":)", or "good one", or the
equivalent, is understandable I suppose. Lots of them soon become a
costly annoyance. Do what you like, of course, but you might consider it.

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

snakefiddler wrote:

wrote in message

And seriously, "snake," any chance of your doing an occasional snipping
when you reply?

yeah, ya know- i could have done a little snipping there- i'll give ya that
one. still, it really wasn't that big a deal. just don't read the ****, if
you don't want to.

I (and many people outside the U.S.) have relatively costly by-the-minute
dial-up access. Many stay on line only long enough to send messages in a
batch, download emails and NG messages in a batch, then read and write off
line. One or two posts quoting 100+ lines--the entirety of several
preceding posts--with the sole addition of ":)", or "good one", or the
equivalent, is understandable I suppose. Lots of them soon become a
costly annoyance. Do what you like, of course, but you might consider it.

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Frank Reid wrote:

The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are.

Damn, rw's right. That's way different from stream fishing.... g

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Frank Reid wrote:

The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are.

Damn, rw's right. That's way different from stream fishing.... g

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"JR" wrote in message ...
snakefiddler wrote:

wrote in message

SNIPPED
I (and many people outside the U.S.) have relatively costly by-the-minute
dial-up access. Many stay on line only long enough to send messages in a
batch, download emails and NG messages in a batch, then read and write off
line. One or two posts quoting 100+ lines--the entirety of several
preceding posts--with the sole addition of ":)", or "good one", or the
equivalent, is understandable I suppose. Lots of them soon become a
costly annoyance.
\

Do what you like, of course, but you might consider it.

i certainly will :-)
snake

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"JR" wrote in message ...
snakefiddler wrote:

wrote in message

SNIPPED
I (and many people outside the U.S.) have relatively costly by-the-minute
dial-up access. Many stay on line only long enough to send messages in a
batch, download emails and NG messages in a batch, then read and write off
line. One or two posts quoting 100+ lines--the entirety of several
preceding posts--with the sole addition of ":)", or "good one", or the
equivalent, is understandable I suppose. Lots of them soon become a
costly annoyance.
\

Do what you like, of course, but you might consider it.

i certainly will :-)
snake

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"JR" wrote in message ...
snakefiddler wrote:

wrote in message

SNIPPED
I (and many people outside the U.S.) have relatively costly by-the-minute
dial-up access. Many stay on line only long enough to send messages in a
batch, download emails and NG messages in a batch, then read and write off
line. One or two posts quoting 100+ lines--the entirety of several
preceding posts--with the sole addition of ":)", or "good one", or the
equivalent, is understandable I suppose. Lots of them soon become a
costly annoyance.
\

Do what you like, of course, but you might consider it.

i certainly will :-)
snake

JR

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...



Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water."


Buzzers are the mainstay of the British lake scene. Fishing with them is
quite easy, as you just cast them out and let them slowly sink. Buzzers are
supposed to represent the chironomids (spelling?) and these are the pupa of
bloodworm larva. The adult looks like a big mosquito, and buzzes around the
waters (hence the name). I think that most lakes around the world have
something similar, and most trout in the UK lakes feed mainly on buzzers.

Most people use several buzzers at once and fish on a longish leader. The
difficult aspect of fishing buzzers is the bite detection. However, quite
often people use bright indicators that attach to the leader. These float
and provide depth setting as well as bite indication. Others use the
floating leader (with applied grease) to determine when to strike. Others
still use a bushy dryfly as the bob fly, and get the benefit of the
occasional rise at the dryfly indicator. The way to fish them is to slowly
retrieve the line at a pace only as fast as the coils in the flyline; i.e.
you just keep the line taut, and not allow any surface "coil" zig zags to
form on the surface. After a while, your line is in, and you cast it out
again.

Personally speaking, I prefer on lakes, fishing when the trout are taking
hatching buzzers. The trout being up on the surface porpoise rolling makes
for some good fun. Wading around the margins casting imitations (sometimes
a klinkhamer does a good job for these occasions) in front of a porpoise
rolling trout is exciting! Much more fun that the wait-and-watch deep down
buzzer, but if the fish are down there, then so must be your flies.

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...



Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water."


Buzzers are the mainstay of the British lake scene. Fishing with them is
quite easy, as you just cast them out and let them slowly sink. Buzzers are
supposed to represent the chironomids (spelling?) and these are the pupa of
bloodworm larva. The adult looks like a big mosquito, and buzzes around the
waters (hence the name). I think that most lakes around the world have
something similar, and most trout in the UK lakes feed mainly on buzzers.

Most people use several buzzers at once and fish on a longish leader. The
difficult aspect of fishing buzzers is the bite detection. However, quite
often people use bright indicators that attach to the leader. These float
and provide depth setting as well as bite indication. Others use the
floating leader (with applied grease) to determine when to strike. Others
still use a bushy dryfly as the bob fly, and get the benefit of the
occasional rise at the dryfly indicator. The way to fish them is to slowly
retrieve the line at a pace only as fast as the coils in the flyline; i.e.
you just keep the line taut, and not allow any surface "coil" zig zags to
form on the surface. After a while, your line is in, and you cast it out
again.

Personally speaking, I prefer on lakes, fishing when the trout are taking
hatching buzzers. The trout being up on the surface porpoise rolling makes
for some good fun. Wading around the margins casting imitations (sometimes
a klinkhamer does a good job for these occasions) in front of a porpoise
rolling trout is exciting! Much more fun that the wait-and-watch deep down
buzzer, but if the fish are down there, then so must be your flies.

fishin for trout in lakes
 

The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are.

Damn, rw's right. That's way different from stream fishing.... g

Maybe I should start chargin' for this Sage(C) advice.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

fishin for trout in lakes
 

The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are.

Damn, rw's right. That's way different from stream fishing.... g

Maybe I should start chargin' for this Sage(C) advice.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Frank notes:
Maybe I should start chargin' for this Sage(C) advice.

maybe you should've noted that the key to still water fishing is getting the
ANGLER down to where the fish are........God, I still chuckle when I think of
your float tube story....
Tom

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Frank notes:
Maybe I should start chargin' for this Sage(C) advice.

maybe you should've noted that the key to still water fishing is getting the
ANGLER down to where the fish are........God, I still chuckle when I think of
your float tube story....
Tom

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip

helpful stuff- thanks

"Don't make me [helpful]. You wouldn't like me when I'm [helpful]." - Incredible
Hulk

Please see above for [helpful] snipping tutelage.
--
HT[H],
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

fishin for trout in lakes
 

maybe you should've noted that the key to still water fishing is getting
the
ANGLER down to where the fish are........God, I still chuckle when I think
of
your float tube story....

Hey, aside from an occasional dunking, Snake and some of the other newbies
think I have the proverbial clue. Don't bring up that float tube, it would
ruin my fine reputation.

--
Frank Reid
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fishin for trout in lakes
 

maybe you should've noted that the key to still water fishing is getting
the
ANGLER down to where the fish are........God, I still chuckle when I think
of
your float tube story....

Hey, aside from an occasional dunking, Snake and some of the other newbies
think I have the proverbial clue. Don't bring up that float tube, it would
ruin my fine reputation.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

fishin for trout in lakes
 

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there are no numbers in my email addy. Please remove to reply
"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets, spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I use a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets, spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I use a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Brian Chan is considered, by many, as the authority on stillwater fly
fishing. He and Skip Morris wrote, "Fly Fishing Trout Lakes" and I have
read it and learned a great deal. Also, "Strategies for Stillwater" by Dave
Hughes comes highly recommended as well.

chris

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets, spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time
find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In
general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I use
a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.

fishin for trout in lakes
 

Brian Chan is considered, by many, as the authority on stillwater fly
fishing. He and Skip Morris wrote, "Fly Fishing Trout Lakes" and I have
read it and learned a great deal. Also, "Strategies for Stillwater" by Dave
Hughes comes highly recommended as well.

chris

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets, spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time
find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In
general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I use
a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.

fishin for trout in lakes
 

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:40:42 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

Hey, you gotta give credit where it's due - on rare occasions, Ken
appears to be right - you are either full of more **** than a flock of
Christmas geese, a fake, or dumber than a box of rocks...

And as a preemptive: Mark, I realize you can't do any better, but how
about _differenly_? You really need to learn how to control your
snatch...well, and the girls you introduce to ROFF, too...

fishin for trout in lakes
 

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:40:42 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

Hey, you gotta give credit where it's due - on rare occasions, Ken
appears to be right - you are either full of more **** than a flock of
Christmas geese, a fake, or dumber than a box of rocks...

And as a preemptive: Mark, I realize you can't do any better, but how
about _differenly_? You really need to learn how to control your
snatch...well, and the girls you introduce to ROFF, too...

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
...

maybe you should've noted that the key to still water fishing is getting
the
ANGLER down to where the fish are........God, I still chuckle when I
think
of
your float tube story....

Hey, aside from an occasional dunking, Snake and some of the other newbies
think I have the proverbial clue. Don't bring up that float tube, it
would
ruin my fine reputation.

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too late- for both the "proverbial clue", and the fine reputation. (hey,
mine's shot- gotta take somebody down with me ;-} )

so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake

fishin for trout in lakes
 

so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake

http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c

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fishin for trout in lakes
 

so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake

http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c

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