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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Conan the Librarian wrote:
snip
I expect opinionated folks to have
disagreements, but I don't see what purpose is served when that
deteriorates into juvenile namecalling or macho posturing.

All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor.

Now *that's* funny! (I'm only posting this so the hundreds of thousands
of readers who have you killfiled can enjoy it.) :)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Conan the Librarian wrote:
snip
I expect opinionated folks to have
disagreements, but I don't see what purpose is served when that
deteriorates into juvenile namecalling or macho posturing.

All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor.

Now *that's* funny! (I'm only posting this so the hundreds of thousands
of readers who have you killfiled can enjoy it.) :)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

Yeah, maudlin - sue me.

Ditto the sentiment. When we had the sniper down here in DC, I had people
from Mass to Montana offering a place for my family to stay. This place,
for all its failings and flames, is a family.


To pitch in on the maudlin side, it IS a family for me. Unlike you guys,
who get the luxury of having conversations with any number of compatriots
any day of the year, I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing. Hell, I barely even get to GO ff'ing! The discussions
here, the mental extensions of meeting IRL (about 15 roffians and counting),
and the continuances of conversations in the past are all much more real
life for me than I pretend they are. I'm not sitting here typing at my
compter, I'm taking to several dozen people I 'know' in a manner that we all
are acquainted and comfortable with. When I post my "they're shooting up the
place" posts and got dozens of "keep your head down"s, I really appreciated
the sentiments; exactly as if I was leaning over the backyard fence talking
to the neighbor. When I post my 'anyone know about xxx' questions, its
pretty equivalent to what any of you might say to the buddy next to you at
the bar offhandedly one day. I don't get to do that....its all smalltalk
with Embassy folks, or professional bitching with colleagues, so shallow
noun-verb conversations in French with someone who just sees a big walking
wallet. It took several years before I felt comfortable enough to let it
hang out here, and I appreciate having this place to hang out in. Its a
virtual Cheer's barroom.

So when I see this virtual barroom becoming a brawl, and outside its all
snowy and cold and miserable, I take it rather personally. This place is a
bit more than 'just entertainment' to me. And I bet I'm not the only one.

--riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

Yeah, maudlin - sue me.

Ditto the sentiment. When we had the sniper down here in DC, I had people
from Mass to Montana offering a place for my family to stay. This place,
for all its failings and flames, is a family.


To pitch in on the maudlin side, it IS a family for me. Unlike you guys,
who get the luxury of having conversations with any number of compatriots
any day of the year, I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing. Hell, I barely even get to GO ff'ing! The discussions
here, the mental extensions of meeting IRL (about 15 roffians and counting),
and the continuances of conversations in the past are all much more real
life for me than I pretend they are. I'm not sitting here typing at my
compter, I'm taking to several dozen people I 'know' in a manner that we all
are acquainted and comfortable with. When I post my "they're shooting up the
place" posts and got dozens of "keep your head down"s, I really appreciated
the sentiments; exactly as if I was leaning over the backyard fence talking
to the neighbor. When I post my 'anyone know about xxx' questions, its
pretty equivalent to what any of you might say to the buddy next to you at
the bar offhandedly one day. I don't get to do that....its all smalltalk
with Embassy folks, or professional bitching with colleagues, so shallow
noun-verb conversations in French with someone who just sees a big walking
wallet. It took several years before I felt comfortable enough to let it
hang out here, and I appreciate having this place to hang out in. Its a
virtual Cheer's barroom.

So when I see this virtual barroom becoming a brawl, and outside its all
snowy and cold and miserable, I take it rather personally. This place is a
bit more than 'just entertainment' to me. And I bet I'm not the only one.

--riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

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I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing.
--riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

Note: This number was reduced to 2 whilst in Wales.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

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I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing.
--riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

Note: This number was reduced to 2 whilst in Wales.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing. --riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

Note: This number was reduced to 2 whilst in Wales.


I never posted the story about hanging out in a bar one evening with three
locals, just enjoying the company and conversation with a few locals: one
brash woman, a refined man, and a hard-spoken bricklayer. As the evening
wore on, the woman (a Brit) got harsher and harsher, getting the the face of
her friends. The Bricklayer eventually shrugged his shoulders, finished his
beer and left. The genteel guy (a Welchman) was being assaulted on
everything he said about the weather, the soccer match, everything.
Eventually I told him that this woman provided a pefect example of why the
americans finally kicked the brits out, and the Welch sure could learn from
our lesson. The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.

--riverman

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I get to speak English to only about 20 other adults
daily, and almost never get to talk at length about the things I really
love, like ff'ing. --riverman
(next round is on me, guys (and gals))

Note: This number was reduced to 2 whilst in Wales.


I never posted the story about hanging out in a bar one evening with three
locals, just enjoying the company and conversation with a few locals: one
brash woman, a refined man, and a hard-spoken bricklayer. As the evening
wore on, the woman (a Brit) got harsher and harsher, getting the the face of
her friends. The Bricklayer eventually shrugged his shoulders, finished his
beer and left. The genteel guy (a Welchman) was being assaulted on
everything he said about the weather, the soccer match, everything.
Eventually I told him that this woman provided a pefect example of why the
americans finally kicked the brits out, and the Welch sure could learn from
our lesson. The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.

--riverman

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Exactly. It's fun, it's entertaining,

Well, it is nice to know that one has friends of course, but I can´t see
much sense in baiting them, and even less fun in it. That one feels obliged
to refute lies, or slurs, and even rank idiocy, is clear enough, and I have
no argument with that. But friends would not do that to each other anyway?
Even should a friend make a mistake, this would not normally result in any
serious castigation?

Just as an aside really, it seems to me that the longer some people are
here, the worse the baiting becomes. A case perhaps, of familiarity breeding
contempt?

Whatever. Back to occasional lurking.

TL
MC

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Exactly. It's fun, it's entertaining,

Well, it is nice to know that one has friends of course, but I can´t see
much sense in baiting them, and even less fun in it. That one feels obliged
to refute lies, or slurs, and even rank idiocy, is clear enough, and I have
no argument with that. But friends would not do that to each other anyway?
Even should a friend make a mistake, this would not normally result in any
serious castigation?

Just as an aside really, it seems to me that the longer some people are
here, the worse the baiting becomes. A case perhaps, of familiarity breeding
contempt?

Whatever. Back to occasional lurking.

TL
MC

As much ROFF as anything
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Conan the Librarian wrote:

snip
I expect opinionated folks to have disagreements, but I don't see
what purpose is served when that deteriorates into juvenile
namecalling or macho posturing.

All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor. Juvenile name-calling, indeed. Harumph, sir.
Harumph.

Now *that* made me laugh. :-)

The macho **** ? That's an overreaction to the umpteenth
repetition of an offensive woof by the putz. Sometimes I
just get sick and ****ing tired of it.

I can understand that, but it just comes across as ... well, silly.
Of course I think that much of what passes for "macho" posturing is
pretty silly, and I get to see plenty of it down here in Taxsuss.

It's just that there's something really incongruent about it coming
from guys whose idea of a pastime is standing in cold water waving
graphite sticks with fur and feathers attached to a line to try to fool
a fish (which they will likely put back in the water anyway). :-) (Why
am I reminded of that pic that Willi just posted?)

The way I figure it is that there are enough assholes in "real"
life that it serves no purpose to come here to "escape" only to
alienate the folks with whom I share a common bond.


Has someone alienated you ? Does that mean you have to have
green card now ? ;-)

SWMBO is the one with the green card. :-)


Chuck Vance

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Conan the Librarian wrote:

snip
I expect opinionated folks to have disagreements, but I don't see
what purpose is served when that deteriorates into juvenile
namecalling or macho posturing.

All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor. Juvenile name-calling, indeed. Harumph, sir.
Harumph.

Now *that* made me laugh. :-)

The macho **** ? That's an overreaction to the umpteenth
repetition of an offensive woof by the putz. Sometimes I
just get sick and ****ing tired of it.

I can understand that, but it just comes across as ... well, silly.
Of course I think that much of what passes for "macho" posturing is
pretty silly, and I get to see plenty of it down here in Taxsuss.

It's just that there's something really incongruent about it coming
from guys whose idea of a pastime is standing in cold water waving
graphite sticks with fur and feathers attached to a line to try to fool
a fish (which they will likely put back in the water anyway). :-) (Why
am I reminded of that pic that Willi just posted?)

The way I figure it is that there are enough assholes in "real"
life that it serves no purpose to come here to "escape" only to
alienate the folks with whom I share a common bond.


Has someone alienated you ? Does that mean you have to have
green card now ? ;-)

SWMBO is the one with the green card. :-)


Chuck Vance

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I'm here mainly for the entertainment value and am
rarely disappointed. Then again, my expectations are fairly low. ;-)

Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that plus
Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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riverman wrote

.. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from
our lesson.

The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)

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Frank Reid wrote:
sombody else wrote
Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that
plus Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.

The hell with expensive duds. "Plan 9 from Outer Space". Say no more.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

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Stan Gula wrote:
Frank Reid wrote:
sombody else wrote
Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that
plus Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.

The hell with expensive duds. "Plan 9 from Outer Space". Say no
more.

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin' waste
of $9.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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On 9/24/04 3:29 PM, in article , "Tim J."
wrote:

Stan Gula wrote:
Frank Reid wrote:
sombody else wrote
Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that
plus Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.

The hell with expensive duds. "Plan 9 from Outer Space". Say no
more.

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin' waste
of $9.

Was that the one starring Frank Reid and his float tube?

Bill

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
...

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from
our lesson.

The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)




Actually that´s "Welsh".

Or have they finally done away with capital punishment in America?

TL
MC

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
...

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from
our lesson.

The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)




Actually that´s "Welsh".

Or have they finally done away with capital punishment in America?

TL
MC

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"Tim J." wrote:

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin' waste
of $9.

I try never to spend more on a ticket than the movie cost to make... ;)

JR

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"Tim J." wrote:

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin' waste
of $9.

I try never to spend more on a ticket than the movie cost to make... ;)

JR

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Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin' waste
of $9.

Was that the one starring Frank Reid and his float tube?

Let me guess, that standard old "Boy and his Log" film?

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from

our lesson.


The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)

Oh damn, now you've gone and ruined the vibe around here.
And everything was going so swimmingly too.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from

our lesson.


The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)

Oh damn, now you've gone and ruined the vibe around here.
And everything was going so swimmingly too.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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JR wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin'
waste of $9.

I try never to spend more on a ticket than the movie cost to make...

That movie would have been a lot better if they had not spent the $9 on
swimming lessons and had the stars drown in the first five minutes. I
was ready to pay another $9 if my wife would just let me leave the
theater.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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JR wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:

Did anyone else see that latest dud, "Open Water"? What a freakin'
waste of $9.

I try never to spend more on a ticket than the movie cost to make...

That movie would have been a lot better if they had not spent the $9 on
swimming lessons and had the stars drown in the first five minutes. I
was ready to pay another $9 if my wife would just let me leave the
theater.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in news:W-
:

I'm here mainly for the entertainment value and am
rarely disappointed. Then again, my expectations are fairly low. ;-)

Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that plus
Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.


Have you ever heard Waterworld referred to as "Fishtar"?

Scott

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Scott Seidman wrote:
"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in news:W-
:

I'm here mainly for the entertainment value and am
rarely disappointed. Then again, my expectations are fairly low.
;-)

Let me guess, you liked "Gigli"?

Never saw it. Who the hell talked *you* into going? They should be
negotiating peace in the Middle East. :)

Heard about it, never saw it. Sounds like a good party movie, that
plus Ishtar, we could have a bad movie night at the clave.

Have you ever heard Waterworld referred to as "Fishtar"?

SWMBO *loves* that movie. She also loves Postman. Ya think it has
anything to do with Costner? :(
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from

our lesson.


The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)



G

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

riverman wrote

. The genteel guy (a Welchman)

and the Welch sure could learn from

our lesson.


The Welch bartender bought me a beer for that.


that's "welsh", you rude, stupid, lying pederast.

yfitons
wayno (but i know what you mean)



G

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:53:52 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Conan the Librarian wrote:
snip
I expect opinionated folks to have
disagreements, but I don't see what purpose is served when that
deteriorates into juvenile namecalling or macho posturing.

All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor. Juvenile name-calling, indeed. Harumph, sir.
Harumph.

Somebody ought to hit you in the mouth...oh, Stevie...

HTH,
Dickie

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Tim J. wrote...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor.

Now *that's* funny! (I'm only posting this so the hundreds of thousands
of readers who have you killfiled can enjoy it.) :)

Classic!
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt(nospam) and earthlink dot net to reply via email)

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Tim J. wrote...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
All those other guys may indulge in juvenile name-calling
but my name-calling is inspired, devastating, razor sharp
and overwhelmingly effective. No juvenile could ever hope
to reach the lofty level of the name-calling craft that I
have achieved through many years of diligent and unstinting
hard labor.

Now *that's* funny! (I'm only posting this so the hundreds of thousands
of readers who have you killfiled can enjoy it.) :)

Classic!
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt(nospam) and earthlink dot net to reply via email)

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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:34:55 -0600, Warren wrote:

wrote...
Somebody ought to hit you in the mouth...oh, Stevie...

Just for clarification, what is it about RW that you don't like? For a
couple of years now you have been insulting him for moving to Idaho, etc
and I just don't understand why that (or whatever it is) makes you so
angry. I've met RW, fished with him several times, stayed at his house,
he has stayed at mine, we have drank a lot of beer and whiskey together
and I have issues with him when it comes to politics. Given all of
that, I have *NEVER* doubted him as being a kind, decent, honest,
trustworthy and damn fine individual. Care to clarify your position?

Again? Ok, sure...I don't KNOW the individual, the person, of whom you
speak, so I don't like, dislike, or feel otherwise about him _in the
"real" world_. And nothing about him, the online person (or "anyone"
else on ROFF), makes me angry, because it's not real. And since I don't
know the real person, I have no idea if he would make me angry or not,
but I suspect that he is probably and at least, a decent enough guy.

TC,
R