BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
I looked at the VMC's and I like them... only thing is I can't find them
locally.

I bought all mine locally, but both places stopped carrying them after they
ran out. Last I looked, I think staminainc.com carried them.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.


"Marty" wrote in message
...

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the
way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works
with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were
very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a
gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.


"Marty" wrote in message
...

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the
way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works
with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were
very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a
gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks, they hang in brush,
stumps, logs, and weeds,, something they actually penetrate. It's not
impossible to hang them in rocks, but it is rare. There may be brush or
other things in the rocks that is hanging your hooks, making you think
they are snagging in the rocks

Weights hang in rocks, at least most of them do :-)
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks, they hang in brush,
stumps, logs, and weeds,, something they actually penetrate. It's not
impossible to hang them in rocks, but it is rare. There may be brush or
other things in the rocks that is hanging your hooks, making you think
they are snagging in the rocks

Weights hang in rocks, at least most of them do :-)
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe.

Warren ;-)

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
.. .
Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and
Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe.

Warren ;-)

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
.. .
Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and
Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Charles, I gotta agree with Chris - hesent me a few red Daichii's & I won a
tourney with em last weekend. They are super sharp. Fished the flippin
tube & the Ozmo on em & was pretty impressed.

Warren

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
t...
I was just kidding Chris... but I appreciate it!


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Truthfully Charles, the last extras I had went to Warren a couple weeks
ago.
I would do it in a second if I had some extra. I actually have to get a
bunch of them over the winter to restock before the season starts again.

Chris
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Think I'll pick some of these up next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops*. I
wish
I
would have saved that other hook just to show them... but I doubt the
girls
at the Customer Service desk would have a clue anyway.

*Unless you want to send me some free ones! LOL


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Charles,

With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If
I
was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters
classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too
light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me
the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone
free
ones to try just so they knew as well!

Take care,

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Charles, I gotta agree with Chris - hesent me a few red Daichii's & I won a
tourney with em last weekend. They are super sharp. Fished the flippin
tube & the Ozmo on em & was pretty impressed.

Warren

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
t...
I was just kidding Chris... but I appreciate it!


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Truthfully Charles, the last extras I had went to Warren a couple weeks
ago.
I would do it in a second if I had some extra. I actually have to get a
bunch of them over the winter to restock before the season starts again.

Chris
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Think I'll pick some of these up next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops*. I
wish
I
would have saved that other hook just to show them... but I doubt the
girls
at the Customer Service desk would have a clue anyway.

*Unless you want to send me some free ones! LOL


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Charles,

With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If
I
was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters
classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too
light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me
the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone
free
ones to try just so they knew as well!

Take care,

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

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Stick around Chris... you'll get over it.


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Stick around Chris... you'll get over it.


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Damn anti-virus software cut my message out,

What I said was
Harry,

I didn't see the opening sarcasm tag so I read the whole thing as if you
were speaking the truth......

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris

"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to
think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much
cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on
the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way
the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Damn anti-virus software cut my message out,

What I said was
Harry,

I didn't see the opening sarcasm tag so I read the whole thing as if you
were speaking the truth......

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris

"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to
think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much
cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on
the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way
the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

go-bassn wrote:

Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe.

Warren ;-)


No, at least jajwuth hasn't posted anything about it. I just double
checked my killfile. I had to reformat the hard drive a few months back,
and so far Long-shot is the only one to have gotten plonked.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

go-bassn wrote:

Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe.

Warren ;-)


No, at least jajwuth hasn't posted anything about it. I just double
checked my killfile. I had to reformat the hard drive a few months back,
and so far Long-shot is the only one to have gotten plonked.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:14 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

You need to get out and fish more Rodney. Either that or fish some
different types of water. Maybe you don't have the patience to let a
Senko drop on a wacky rig into 30 feet of water on 10 lb fluorocarbon,
however I do. Most of the time it is 13 to 15 feet or shallow riprap.
Is riprap rock Rodney? I just want to make sure...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:00:32 GMT, "Chris Rennert"
wrote:

Damn anti-virus software cut my message out,

What I said was
Harry,

I didn't see the opening sarcasm tag so I read the whole thing as if you
were speaking the truth......

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris


I figured someone would notice that. Didn't think anyone would point
it out in fear of exposing their geek...ya Geek ;-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:00:32 GMT, "Chris Rennert"
wrote:

Damn anti-virus software cut my message out,

What I said was
Harry,

I didn't see the opening sarcasm tag so I read the whole thing as if you
were speaking the truth......

I am a damn geek :-(

Chris


I figured someone would notice that. Didn't think anyone would point
it out in fear of exposing their geek...ya Geek ;-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

I love fishing rocks John, rip-rap in particular. And you're right - much
like a stump or brushpile, making actual contact with the rocks often draws
a reflex strike. Sure, we make our donations, but that's the price we pay
to make the right presentation.

I was fishing riprap in a muddy Delaware River last weekend. Right on the
main river. The bass hide behind individual (large) rocks as the current
flows by. My bait of choice was a large flippin tube (Mizmo Big Boy). I
put a Rook's Thunder Rattle (Mizmo) in the head of the tube. I could
picture the sube hopping from rock to rock along with the current, making a
brief rattle each time it made contact. It worked well. If that bait
wasn't contacting the rocks the fish never would have known it was there.

And those donations? Bass fisherman donate lures. It's what they do.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

I love fishing rocks John, rip-rap in particular. And you're right - much
like a stump or brushpile, making actual contact with the rocks often draws
a reflex strike. Sure, we make our donations, but that's the price we pay
to make the right presentation.

I was fishing riprap in a muddy Delaware River last weekend. Right on the
main river. The bass hide behind individual (large) rocks as the current
flows by. My bait of choice was a large flippin tube (Mizmo Big Boy). I
put a Rook's Thunder Rattle (Mizmo) in the head of the tube. I could
picture the sube hopping from rock to rock along with the current, making a
brief rattle each time it made contact. It worked well. If that bait
wasn't contacting the rocks the fish never would have known it was there.

And those donations? Bass fisherman donate lures. It's what they do.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Rod at Round Valley:

"Damn! I swear they were snagless down in Alley-bama..."

Don't let that guy get to ya, just killfile him!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:14 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

You need to get out and fish more Rodney. Either that or fish some
different types of water. Maybe you don't have the patience to let a
Senko drop on a wacky rig into 30 feet of water on 10 lb fluorocarbon,
however I do. Most of the time it is 13 to 15 feet or shallow riprap.
Is riprap rock Rodney? I just want to make sure...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

Rod at Round Valley:

"Damn! I swear they were snagless down in Alley-bama..."

Don't let that guy get to ya, just killfile him!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:14 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

You need to get out and fish more Rodney. Either that or fish some
different types of water. Maybe you don't have the patience to let a
Senko drop on a wacky rig into 30 feet of water on 10 lb fluorocarbon,
however I do. Most of the time it is 13 to 15 feet or shallow riprap.
Is riprap rock Rodney? I just want to make sure...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:16:00 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing

Ah...the plug for your snagless weight when discussing a hook getting
hung in the rocks. Rodney, you re-define shill.

Then again I knew it was coming. You can't enter any conversation
without plugging one of your doohickies.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:16:00 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing

Ah...the plug for your snagless weight when discussing a hook getting
hung in the rocks. Rodney, you re-define shill.

Then again I knew it was coming. You can't enter any conversation
without plugging one of your doohickies.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:16:00 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

John Kerr wrote:
About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin



I catch the fish, in the worst rocks and crap there is, and don't get
snagged, and a lot of pro's are doing it now as well,, and they are
winning using this new weight,,


OK ya'll stay in the dark,, you don't want to improve your fishing

Ah...the plug for your snagless weight when discussing a hook getting
hung in the rocks. Rodney, you re-define shill.

Then again I knew it was coming. You can't enter any conversation
without plugging one of your doohickies.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.