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Charlie Wilson wrote:

"bruiser" wrote in message
...

For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.


Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

I might also add, that there are tents available, that will pitch in the
bed of your pickup. I chose to buy a camper shell, and it's paid off in
comfort, ease(no tent to pitch), and a little more security.

brians

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:34:07 GMT, "Charlie Wilson"
wrote:
m.

Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

Can't find anything to disagree with there, though it's not what I
use, but I'd like to suggest that you put something between the air
mattress and the sleeping bag (mill end fleece will do okay or a worn
quilt or wool blanket) when it's really cold out (whatever your
version of really cold is), as the air in the inflated mattress will
try to match the ground beneath it and the air around it for temps.
Every time you move, the air circulates, taking the warmth from under
you away and bringing in cold from the bottom and sides.

I've been using a cot with a Thermarest on top. More comfortable than
the ground, for sure. In warmer weather I may put my upholstery foam
on the cot. Very cushiony. And I can sit up and walk out of my tent
with way less effort than I can crawl off the floor and get out. Age
sucks.

Just on the sleeping part, I now seem to have two different kits for
kayaking and car camping. Clothing remains about the same. Food can
vary wildly.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:34:07 GMT, "Charlie Wilson"
wrote:
m.

Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

Can't find anything to disagree with there, though it's not what I
use, but I'd like to suggest that you put something between the air
mattress and the sleeping bag (mill end fleece will do okay or a worn
quilt or wool blanket) when it's really cold out (whatever your
version of really cold is), as the air in the inflated mattress will
try to match the ground beneath it and the air around it for temps.
Every time you move, the air circulates, taking the warmth from under
you away and bringing in cold from the bottom and sides.

I've been using a cot with a Thermarest on top. More comfortable than
the ground, for sure. In warmer weather I may put my upholstery foam
on the cot. Very cushiony. And I can sit up and walk out of my tent
with way less effort than I can crawl off the floor and get out. Age
sucks.

Just on the sleeping part, I now seem to have two different kits for
kayaking and car camping. Clothing remains about the same. Food can
vary wildly.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.

--
Frank Reid
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I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

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Frank Reid wrote:
I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular
bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL

Freeking heathen, the one from sam's club has a skirt so you can hide
your stuff underneath it.

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Frank Reid wrote:
I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular
bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL

Freeking heathen, the one from sam's club has a skirt so you can hide
your stuff underneath it.

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Frank Reid wrote:
I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular
bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL

Freeking heathen, the one from sam's club has a skirt so you can hide
your stuff underneath it.

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"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives out.

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"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives out.

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"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives out.

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Larry L" wrote in message
...
Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2)
For my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s)
where taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it
exists. And my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1
for this old grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my
truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and
taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

Coleman's two burner gasoline stove is still the best I've seen for camp
cooking. A lot of people prefer the newer propane models. John told me a
couple of weeks ago in NC that he refills his propane tanks, thus
eliminating one of my major objections to them, but others remain. Propane
cylinders don't deliver fuel very well at below freezing temperatures. And
I've never seen a propane burning stove that puts out the heat of gasoline
models. Gasoline.....despite the recent rape of the American consumer....is
also still cheaper than propane. I used one of the gasoline models for
thirty-five years, until it was lost somehow.....it still worked
beautifully.

Coleman also makes excellent gasoline fueled lamps that put out a LOT of
light and burn for a long time.

As long as weight isn't a consideration, you can't beat cast iron for
cookware. It's virtually indestructible, cheap, thick enough to minimize
hot spots, and you can cook directly in the campfire if necessary or
desirable. Lodge makes a very diverse line of high quality cast iron
cookware. At the very least, you should have a cast iron Dutch oven....the
model with the flat top with a raised edge. These are designed specifically
to cook in a bed of hot coals.....the raised rim on the lid makes it
possible to heap coals on top. This makes it ideal for baking.

Wolfgang
Ole took a skydiving class and when he fihished he went up for his
first soll jump. He dove out of the airplane and pulled the ripcord.
The chute
emerged, tangled, and he cut it free. He then pulled the cord on the
reserve chute, and it also was tangled. He prayed to his God and
looked
down to the ground below. To his amazement, a woman was coming up with
equal velocity. "Hey, you know anything about parachutes?" he shouted
to her, as they passed by. The reply: "No... you know anything about
Coleman stoves?"

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Larry L" wrote in message
...
Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2)
For my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s)
where taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it
exists. And my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1
for this old grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my
truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and
taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

Coleman's two burner gasoline stove is still the best I've seen for camp
cooking. A lot of people prefer the newer propane models. John told me a
couple of weeks ago in NC that he refills his propane tanks, thus
eliminating one of my major objections to them, but others remain. Propane
cylinders don't deliver fuel very well at below freezing temperatures. And
I've never seen a propane burning stove that puts out the heat of gasoline
models. Gasoline.....despite the recent rape of the American consumer....is
also still cheaper than propane. I used one of the gasoline models for
thirty-five years, until it was lost somehow.....it still worked
beautifully.

Coleman also makes excellent gasoline fueled lamps that put out a LOT of
light and burn for a long time.

As long as weight isn't a consideration, you can't beat cast iron for
cookware. It's virtually indestructible, cheap, thick enough to minimize
hot spots, and you can cook directly in the campfire if necessary or
desirable. Lodge makes a very diverse line of high quality cast iron
cookware. At the very least, you should have a cast iron Dutch oven....the
model with the flat top with a raised edge. These are designed specifically
to cook in a bed of hot coals.....the raised rim on the lid makes it
possible to heap coals on top. This makes it ideal for baking.

Wolfgang
Ole took a skydiving class and when he fihished he went up for his
first soll jump. He dove out of the airplane and pulled the ripcord.
The chute
emerged, tangled, and he cut it free. He then pulled the cord on the
reserve chute, and it also was tangled. He prayed to his God and
looked
down to the ground below. To his amazement, a woman was coming up with
equal velocity. "Hey, you know anything about parachutes?" he shouted
to her, as they passed by. The reply: "No... you know anything about
Coleman stoves?"

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"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman

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"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman

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"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.

Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman

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"rw" wrote in message
I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, , an outdoor shower
(which I haven't yet used),

several of your fellow campers suggested you ought to try it!
A friend

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"rw" wrote in message
I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, , an outdoor shower
(which I haven't yet used),

several of your fellow campers suggested you ought to try it!
A friend

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:59:51 -0500, Frank Reid
wrote:

I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.


Being but a poor weak woman, and old besides, I'd do myself damage
getting that into my tent. Not so much into the tent as in and out of
the truck. So I have the Cabela's Big Lux tent for truck camping and
later got a lower, smaller, lighter cheapo one that I may use in the
smaller tent and/or for canoe camping. They're all better than the
ground as far as getting up and getting out of the tent. I don't
even have to wish for my wading staff to pull myself up when I emerge
from the tent.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:59:51 -0500, Frank Reid
wrote:

I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.


Being but a poor weak woman, and old besides, I'd do myself damage
getting that into my tent. Not so much into the tent as in and out of
the truck. So I have the Cabela's Big Lux tent for truck camping and
later got a lower, smaller, lighter cheapo one that I may use in the
smaller tent and/or for canoe camping. They're all better than the
ground as far as getting up and getting out of the tent. I don't
even have to wish for my wading staff to pull myself up when I emerge
from the tent.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:59:51 -0500, Frank Reid
wrote:

I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.


Being but a poor weak woman, and old besides, I'd do myself damage
getting that into my tent. Not so much into the tent as in and out of
the truck. So I have the Cabela's Big Lux tent for truck camping and
later got a lower, smaller, lighter cheapo one that I may use in the
smaller tent and/or for canoe camping. They're all better than the
ground as far as getting up and getting out of the tent. I don't
even have to wish for my wading staff to pull myself up when I emerge
from the tent.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote


snipped list


I don't drink so I think I can really keep the weight and bulk down compared
to your list G

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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote


snipped list


I don't drink so I think I can really keep the weight and bulk down compared
to your list G

Update
 

"Larry L" wrote

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to


Turns out I have a 4 man tent and had forgotten about it. We bought it a
fews years back for a Yosemite trip where my son brought along a couple
friends ... the kids stayed in the tent, the wife and I in the trailer.
When I mentioned thinking about getting some car camping stuff and my
reasoning for doing so, Barb instantly remembered the tent, and it only took
an hour to find it in the barn G.

I also have a two burner propane stove that used to be in a luxury model
floating duck blind. In the blind we used a 5 gal tank, but I'm not sure I
want to mess with a big tank for a couple nights of non-trailer camping a
season ... and I know I'm not inclined to throw away cylinders ... I have
some research to do on refillable tanks

I have a nice goose down bag, and pad, but I think a cot is neally escential
these days, getting up and down off the ground and my knees isn't that easy
anymore .... I used to fish on my knees a lot and the last couple years
every time I see some young twerp crawling a stream bank it really drives
the gotten old thing home. I'm leaning to a Cabela's model cot.

I'm planning to put everything including a canned/dried meal or two in a
plastic storage container and put it in the truck ... ready to camp anyplace
with some water available at a minutes notice.

Update
 

"Larry L" wrote

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to


Turns out I have a 4 man tent and had forgotten about it. We bought it a
fews years back for a Yosemite trip where my son brought along a couple
friends ... the kids stayed in the tent, the wife and I in the trailer.
When I mentioned thinking about getting some car camping stuff and my
reasoning for doing so, Barb instantly remembered the tent, and it only took
an hour to find it in the barn G.

I also have a two burner propane stove that used to be in a luxury model
floating duck blind. In the blind we used a 5 gal tank, but I'm not sure I
want to mess with a big tank for a couple nights of non-trailer camping a
season ... and I know I'm not inclined to throw away cylinders ... I have
some research to do on refillable tanks

I have a nice goose down bag, and pad, but I think a cot is neally escential
these days, getting up and down off the ground and my knees isn't that easy
anymore .... I used to fish on my knees a lot and the last couple years
every time I see some young twerp crawling a stream bank it really drives
the gotten old thing home. I'm leaning to a Cabela's model cot.

I'm planning to put everything including a canned/dried meal or two in a
plastic storage container and put it in the truck ... ready to camp anyplace
with some water available at a minutes notice.

Update
 

"Larry L" wrote

escential


forgot to run the spell check I guess G

Update
 

"Larry L" wrote

escential


forgot to run the spell check I guess G

Update
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Larry L" wrote

escential


forgot to run the spell check I guess G


Hell yeah! Running the spelcheck is *always* escent...assent....uh,
escent........um, ipordant.

--riverman

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"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Larry L" wrote

escential


forgot to run the spell check I guess G


Hell yeah! Running the spelcheck is *always* escent...assent....uh,
escent........um, ipordant.

--riverman