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Joe Haubenreich December 26th, 2004 06:07 PM

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Plenty of room on our Braggin' Board for new photos. We get several each
month showing fish caught with Secret Weapons, and our practice from the
beginning has been to send a free lure to each person whose photo makes it
onto the board.

Just remember to drop that camera in your pocket as you leave for the lake,
Henry.... I seem to always be forgetting mine on days when I catch good
fish. Of course, I remember it on the other trips, but all I end up with are
photos (taken by Charles) of me climbing trees to retrieve lures.

Joe
"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Merry Christmas from Bob, Charles, Joe, and all the folks at Secret Weapon
Lures. Maybe we can help make the waning days of this season a little
merrier, and brighten up your new year as well.

From the ranks of ROFB came our first field testers, prostaffers, and
customers. A number of you have promoted us with your fishing buddies and
your local tackle shop dealers, and we really appreciate it. To give
something back, we've sponsored several events ROFB Classics and host its
Web site as well. Now, we'd like to do something for individual members.

Through December 2, we're offering VIP pricing, normally for prostaffers
only, to ROFB members. To take us up on this offer, go to
http://secretweaponlures.com, and click the "ProStaff" button under

"Login"
in the top menu.

User Name: rofb
Password: blackbass

Happy holidays.... and good fishing!

Bob Rickard (founder, Secret Weapon Lures)
Joe Haubenreich
Charles Summers


Thank you for the offer, I just placed an order. I just got a new
digital camera for Christmas, so I hope I'll be on your braggin' board soon.



Joe Haubenreich December 26th, 2004 06:07 PM

Plenty of room on our Braggin' Board for new photos. We get several each
month showing fish caught with Secret Weapons, and our practice from the
beginning has been to send a free lure to each person whose photo makes it
onto the board.

Just remember to drop that camera in your pocket as you leave for the lake,
Henry.... I seem to always be forgetting mine on days when I catch good
fish. Of course, I remember it on the other trips, but all I end up with are
photos (taken by Charles) of me climbing trees to retrieve lures.

Joe
"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Merry Christmas from Bob, Charles, Joe, and all the folks at Secret Weapon
Lures. Maybe we can help make the waning days of this season a little
merrier, and brighten up your new year as well.

From the ranks of ROFB came our first field testers, prostaffers, and
customers. A number of you have promoted us with your fishing buddies and
your local tackle shop dealers, and we really appreciate it. To give
something back, we've sponsored several events ROFB Classics and host its
Web site as well. Now, we'd like to do something for individual members.

Through December 2, we're offering VIP pricing, normally for prostaffers
only, to ROFB members. To take us up on this offer, go to
http://secretweaponlures.com, and click the "ProStaff" button under

"Login"
in the top menu.

User Name: rofb
Password: blackbass

Happy holidays.... and good fishing!

Bob Rickard (founder, Secret Weapon Lures)
Joe Haubenreich
Charles Summers


Thank you for the offer, I just placed an order. I just got a new
digital camera for Christmas, so I hope I'll be on your braggin' board soon.



AJH December 26th, 2004 07:00 PM

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So just when does the SW spamming stop?


David Norton December 26th, 2004 10:46 PM

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Ya know , I have really really tried to be quiet in regards to this and most
of the threads lately. But there appears to
be some on this NG that jest don't know when to shut the
F%$ck up!

Which is one of the main reasons I don't contribute much here anymore.
To: the folks at Secret Weapons, Thanks for the offer. Wish I could take you
up on it. Joe, you know how much I love to throw a spinnerbait. Especially a
S/W! But you also know that I will probably not have much use for them in
the near future.

To those of you who jest can't seem to accept a gracious
offer like that of S/W jeez I'm soooooooo sorry! And **** off. S/W's offer
was in no way couched like some of the others I have read in the past. I
personally don't consider their offer to be spam.

Wish I I could hang around here to really raise some hell.
But it seems that I will be spending the next 6 months in merry ole London.
Wish I could ask that you all play nice
but I know that is not in the forecast.

--
David Norton

"AJH" wrote in message
...
So just when does the SW spamming stop?




Mike December 27th, 2004 03:51 AM

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I see the main problem with spamming is that they clutter up your incoming
mailbox. So in that vain, we had one generous offer for a christmas discount
on lures, and 25+ e-mails regarding the offer....

So which is worse; one that could be easily deleted or FIFTY replies and
comments to sift through?

Mike



Todd Copeland December 27th, 2004 05:03 AM

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
I see the main problem with spamming is that they clutter up your incoming
mailbox. So in that vain, we had one generous offer for a christmas

discount
on lures, and 25+ e-mails regarding the offer....


That is email spam, not newsgroup spam. A thread can simply be ignored.

So which is worse; one that could be easily deleted or FIFTY replies and
comments to sift through?


So, without the initial spam we would not have had 50 replies.

The problem is not with Joe's post, only. The thing I think Ken, and others
including myself, have a problem with is people turning this group into an
"ad group". I've seen this happen before. After time, all you will see is 50
posts about people's ebay ads and 1 post on actual fishing.

To quote the Charter: "Money-making schemes, advertising, and other types of
fishing are not appropriate in the group."

I personally don't think Joe's post was completly out of line but I respect
Ken's right to state it's "spam" (in this case, I don't think I'd agree 100%
with that statement, though).



Todd Copeland December 27th, 2004 05:03 AM

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I see the main problem with spamming is that they clutter up your incoming
mailbox. So in that vain, we had one generous offer for a christmas

discount
on lures, and 25+ e-mails regarding the offer....


That is email spam, not newsgroup spam. A thread can simply be ignored.

So which is worse; one that could be easily deleted or FIFTY replies and
comments to sift through?


So, without the initial spam we would not have had 50 replies.

The problem is not with Joe's post, only. The thing I think Ken, and others
including myself, have a problem with is people turning this group into an
"ad group". I've seen this happen before. After time, all you will see is 50
posts about people's ebay ads and 1 post on actual fishing.

To quote the Charter: "Money-making schemes, advertising, and other types of
fishing are not appropriate in the group."

I personally don't think Joe's post was completly out of line but I respect
Ken's right to state it's "spam" (in this case, I don't think I'd agree 100%
with that statement, though).



Marty December 27th, 2004 06:26 AM

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I think it's a good idea that message boards and newsgroups be free of
commercialism. But it's not necessary for 100% rigidity; there can be a
little bending and flexing. I think an occasional announcement or special
offer, such as the one in this thread, is OK, as long as it's done by a
REGULAR, CONTRIBUTING MEMBER of the group.

Besides, those who voice their sincere complaints about it will help to keep
such activity in check.



Marty December 27th, 2004 06:26 AM

I think it's a good idea that message boards and newsgroups be free of
commercialism. But it's not necessary for 100% rigidity; there can be a
little bending and flexing. I think an occasional announcement or special
offer, such as the one in this thread, is OK, as long as it's done by a
REGULAR, CONTRIBUTING MEMBER of the group.

Besides, those who voice their sincere complaints about it will help to keep
such activity in check.



Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) December 27th, 2004 10:32 AM

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Joe
You have my permission to spam me about SW both here and my private e-mail to your hearts content. I enjoy seeing what's up
at Secret Weapon Lures. Bill P.
================================================== ============

"Todd Copeland" wrote in message link.net...
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I see the main problem with spamming is that they clutter up your incoming
mailbox. So in that vain, we had one generous offer for a christmas

discount
on lures, and 25+ e-mails regarding the offer....


That is email spam, not newsgroup spam. A thread can simply be ignored.

So which is worse; one that could be easily deleted or FIFTY replies and
comments to sift through?


So, without the initial spam we would not have had 50 replies.

The problem is not with Joe's post, only. The thing I think Ken, and others
including myself, have a problem with is people turning this group into an
"ad group". I've seen this happen before. After time, all you will see is 50
posts about people's ebay ads and 1 post on actual fishing.

To quote the Charter: "Money-making schemes, advertising, and other types of
fishing are not appropriate in the group."

I personally don't think Joe's post was completly out of line but I respect
Ken's right to state it's "spam" (in this case, I don't think I'd agree 100%
with that statement, though).





Todd Copeland December 27th, 2004 12:01 PM

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
I think it's a good idea that message boards and newsgroups be free of
commercialism. But it's not necessary for 100% rigidity; there can be a
little bending and flexing. I think an occasional announcement or special
offer, such as the one in this thread, is OK, as long as it's done by a
REGULAR, CONTRIBUTING MEMBER of the group.

Besides, those who voice their sincere complaints about it will help to

keep
such activity in check.


Very well put Marty. That you for making better sense of my thoughts.



Todd Copeland December 27th, 2004 12:01 PM

"Marty" wrote in message
...
I think it's a good idea that message boards and newsgroups be free of
commercialism. But it's not necessary for 100% rigidity; there can be a
little bending and flexing. I think an occasional announcement or special
offer, such as the one in this thread, is OK, as long as it's done by a
REGULAR, CONTRIBUTING MEMBER of the group.

Besides, those who voice their sincere complaints about it will help to

keep
such activity in check.


Very well put Marty. That you for making better sense of my thoughts.



mhood December 27th, 2004 04:22 PM

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Bob Rickard wrote:

I normally would keep quiet here, but if you bother to look, you will see
that these prices are BELOW OUR COST! Secret Weapon makes less than zero
here! Is losing money to a very limited group of people what "Spamming"
means?

Yes, that did take some nerve on Joe's part to lose some money as a special
Christmas thanks to some very special friends, those of you at ROFB, but he
is truly a class guy. To blindly strike out with stupid accusations like you
both did took no class at all. Enough said.

Merry Christmas anyway.



Well, I went and took a look. Frankly, it's hard to believe SW loses
money at $4.25 for a 2 blade spinner bait. Oh well, any old rubber worm
you've got (as long as it's a Creme flip tail), any size will do (as
long as it's 6") and any color is fine (as long as it's black).

mhood

Charles B. Summers December 27th, 2004 07:15 PM

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If I were Rodney... boy could I have some fun with this reply! LOL

Nothing personal mhood...ok?


"mhood" wrote in message
...
Well, I went and took a look. Frankly, it's hard to believe SW loses
money at $4.25 for a 2 blade spinner bait. Oh well, any old rubber worm
you've got (as long as it's a Creme flip tail), any size will do (as
long as it's 6") and any color is fine (as long as it's black).

mhood




mhood December 27th, 2004 07:23 PM

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Charles B. Summers wrote:

If I were Rodney... boy could I have some fun with this reply! LOL

Nothing personal mhood...ok?


"mhood" wrote in message
...


Well, I went and took a look. Frankly, it's hard to believe SW loses
money at $4.25 for a 2 blade spinner bait. Oh well, any old rubber worm
you've got (as long as it's a Creme flip tail), any size will do (as
long as it's 6") and any color is fine (as long as it's black).

mhood






It's OK Charles...my skin is thick enough to take it ;-) I was trying
to make the point that it's what you have faith in....me and my black
Creme flip tails...you and your $10 spinner bait. I can fail to catch
fish on a 50 cent H&H just as well as I can fail to catch fish on SW's
finest :-)

mhood

Illinois Fisherman December 27th, 2004 07:28 PM

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What a pampas ass you are. Go back to the Fly Fishing group. What happened -
you posted too many off topics and now they have all put you in the
dumpster? Idiot.


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Merry Christmas ...


Merry Christmas my lily-white ass, this is SPAM !!

You've got a lot of nerve SPAMming a newsgroup on
Christmas Day.

--
Ken Fortenberry




mhood December 27th, 2004 07:38 PM

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Illinois Fisherman wrote:

What a pampas ass you are. snip Idiot.


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...


Joe Haubenreich wrote:


Merry Christmas ...


Merry Christmas my lily-white ass, this is SPAM !!

You've got a lot of nerve SPAMming a newsgroup on
Christmas Day.

--
Ken Fortenberry






ROFLMAO....

mhood

Ken Fortenberry December 27th, 2004 08:01 PM

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Illinois Fisherman wrote:
What a pampas ass you are.


I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.

Go back to the Fly Fishing group. What happened -
you posted too many off topics and now they have all put you in the
dumpster?


There is no such thing as an off-topic post on roff.

Idiot


Blow me, you friggin' moron.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Charles B. Summers December 27th, 2004 08:03 PM

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I'm with you there! I'll fish a worm to death most days.

I was thinking how easy it would have been to do one of RL impressions
saying that SW has revolutionized fishing and anyone not fishing it was
wasting thier time. However, I'm smart enough to know that there is NEVER
one sure fire way of catching fish. Just like you couldn't build a house
with just a wrench.

Is your e-mail address correct?

"mhood" wrote in message
...
Charles B. Summers wrote:

If I were Rodney... boy could I have some fun with this reply! LOL

Nothing personal mhood...ok?


"mhood" wrote in message
...


Well, I went and took a look. Frankly, it's hard to believe SW loses
money at $4.25 for a 2 blade spinner bait. Oh well, any old rubber worm
you've got (as long as it's a Creme flip tail), any size will do (as
long as it's 6") and any color is fine (as long as it's black).

mhood






It's OK Charles...my skin is thick enough to take it ;-) I was trying
to make the point that it's what you have faith in....me and my black
Creme flip tails...you and your $10 spinner bait. I can fail to catch
fish on a 50 cent H&H just as well as I can fail to catch fish on SW's
finest :-)

mhood




Jajwuth December 27th, 2004 08:49 PM

The selling price may not have a net profit component but it would likely
contain an element of fixed costs. So the sales effort does contribute to
profitability in the long run since some of the fixed costs are covered.

Jajwuth December 27th, 2004 08:49 PM

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The selling price may not have a net profit component but it would likely
contain an element of fixed costs. So the sales effort does contribute to
profitability in the long run since some of the fixed costs are covered.

mhood December 27th, 2004 08:55 PM

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Charles B. Summers wrote:

I'm with you there! I'll fish a worm to death most days.

I was thinking how easy it would have been to do one of RL impressions
saying that SW has revolutionized fishing and anyone not fishing it was
wasting thier time. However, I'm smart enough to know that there is NEVER
one sure fire way of catching fish. Just like you couldn't build a house
with just a wrench.

Is your e-mail address correct?

"mhood" wrote in message
...


Charles B. Summers wrote:



If I were Rodney... boy could I have some fun with this reply! LOL

Nothing personal mhood...ok?


"mhood" wrote in message
...




Well, I went and took a look. Frankly, it's hard to believe SW loses
money at $4.25 for a 2 blade spinner bait. Oh well, any old rubber worm
you've got (as long as it's a Creme flip tail), any size will do (as
long as it's 6") and any color is fine (as long as it's black).

mhood








It's OK Charles...my skin is thick enough to take it ;-) I was trying
to make the point that it's what you have faith in....me and my black
Creme flip tails...you and your $10 spinner bait. I can fail to catch
fish on a 50 cent H&H just as well as I can fail to catch fish on SW's
finest :-)

mhood






Sorry....been posting to Usenet a long time and have lost many an email
addy to spam before I learned that our email addys are being harvested
from our posts. You'll have to remove the "ly" from my addy to email me
direct. Not trying to be a horse's butt or anything, but at one time I
was getting over 300 spams a day.... BTW: Just finished my new house
at the lake...oddly enough, it's all metal and screwed together :-)

mhood

pat gustafson December 27th, 2004 09:54 PM

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Thanks SWL,
Very nice of you. You will be hearing from me.

pat
ps. Hope your Christmas was as you hoped it would be.

p

On 12/25/2004 9:26 AM, Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Merry Christmas from Bob, Charles, Joe, and all the folks at Secret Weapon
Lures. Maybe we can help make the waning days of this season a little
merrier, and brighten up your new year as well.

From the ranks of ROFB came our first field testers, prostaffers, and
customers. A number of you have promoted us with your fishing buddies and
your local tackle shop dealers, and we really appreciate it. To give
something back, we've sponsored several events ROFB Classics and host its
Web site as well. Now, we'd like to do something for individual members.

Through December 2, we're offering VIP pricing, normally for prostaffers
only, to ROFB members. To take us up on this offer, go to
http://secretweaponlures.com, and click the "ProStaff" button under "Login"
in the top menu.

User Name: rofb
Password: blackbass

Happy holidays.... and good fishing!

Bob Rickard (founder, Secret Weapon Lures)
Joe Haubenreich
Charles Summers




Ken Fortenberry December 27th, 2004 10:21 PM

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Illinois Fisherman wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
What a pampas ass you are.


I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.
snip
There is no such thing as an off-topic post on roff.


snip

I could go on but it would embarrass you more.


Why would *I* be embarrassed ? You're the one who pulled
a post from a newsgroup where it is perfectly acceptable
humor and posted it to a newsgroup group where, by your
own admission, it is not. I'm not embarrassed in the least,
I didn't post that message here, you did and you're *STILL*
a friggin' moron.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Illinois Fisherman December 27th, 2004 10:34 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
What a pampas ass you are.

I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.
snip
There is no such thing as an off-topic post on roff.


snip

I could go on but it would embarrass you more.


Why would *I* be embarrassed ? You're the one who pulled
a post from a newsgroup where it is perfectly acceptable
humor and posted it to a newsgroup group where, by your
own admission, it is not. I'm not embarrassed in the least,
I didn't post that message here, you did and you're *STILL*
a friggin' moron.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Moron! Well, I guess you are right. I just wanted this group to know who
they were dealing with. Now I, and the rest of the group can just disregard
your posts as they have nothing to contribute to the nice people here.

You know, I have to admit that Al is a better person than you, Dang, even
Rodney is. Have a nice miserable life. Now, go away twit.

NO ONE replied to your supposedly funny post, now did they. I don't think
they saw the humor in your remarks. Nor does anyone here like your foul
mouth. Clean up your act, your low life is showing.



Ken Fortenberry December 27th, 2004 10:53 PM

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Illinois Fisherman wrote:

Moron! Well, I guess you are right.


See there ? I just knew we could agree on something.

I just wanted this group to know who
they were dealing with. Now I, and the rest of the group can just disregard
your posts as they have nothing to contribute to the nice people here.


Well, you could have disregarded my posts *before* you started
in with the name-calling, but where's the fun in that ? As for
contributing here, you're right I don't have much. I don't own
an outboard motor, a trolling motor, any electronic fish finders
or even a pick up truck. But I can catch bass on a fly rod and
on those admittedly rare occasions when that topic comes up I
do try my best to be helpful.

You know, I have to admit that Al is a better person than you, Dang, even
Rodney is. Have a nice miserable life. Now, go away twit.


And you're one of the *nice* people here ? Well, I'd sure hate to
meet the ones who aren't nice. ;-) As for going away, no, I don't
think so. I've been here on and off since this newsgroup was spun
off of rec.fishing and I'll be here on and off for as long as I
damn well please. And you are *STILL* a friggin' moron.

--
Ken Fortenberry

mhood December 27th, 2004 10:55 PM

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Illinois Fisherman wrote:

What a pampas ass you are.



I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.

Did he just call you pampas grass?

mhood

Ken Fortenberry December 27th, 2004 11:06 PM

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mhood wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
What a pampas ass you are.


I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.

Did he just call you pampas grass?


Sounds to me like he wanted to engage in a battle of wits
and then discovered too late that he was unarmed. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry December 27th, 2004 11:06 PM

mhood wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
What a pampas ass you are.


I may be a pompous ass, but at least I can spell it.

Did he just call you pampas grass?


Sounds to me like he wanted to engage in a battle of wits
and then discovered too late that he was unarmed. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

doS December 27th, 2004 11:51 PM

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I concur, aggrogant lot, the most of the them. You have to be in the in
crowd to be accepted, I guess. We have "bassholes" locally too.No wonder
some people talk down bassers...

"David Norton" wrote in message
...
Ya know , I have really really tried to be quiet in regards to this and

most
of the threads lately. But there appears to
be some on this NG that jest don't know when to shut the
F%$ck up!

Which is one of the main reasons I don't contribute much here anymore.
To: the folks at Secret Weapons, Thanks for the offer. Wish I could take

you
up on it. Joe, you know how much I love to throw a spinnerbait. Especially

a
S/W! But you also know that I will probably not have much use for them in
the near future.

To those of you who jest can't seem to accept a gracious
offer like that of S/W jeez I'm soooooooo sorry! And **** off. S/W's offer
was in no way couched like some of the others I have read in the past. I
personally don't consider their offer to be spam.

Wish I I could hang around here to really raise some hell.
But it seems that I will be spending the next 6 months in merry ole

London.
Wish I could ask that you all play nice
but I know that is not in the forecast.

--
David Norton

"AJH" wrote in message
...
So just when does the SW spamming stop?






Illinois Fisherman December 28th, 2004 12:40 AM

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Yes, and we will always know who you are.

I will not call you a moron. I can see now that you are mentally challenged.

My philosophy is not to get into an argument with the mentally challenged.

End of subject on my behalf.




"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Illinois Fisherman wrote:
Moron! Well, I guess you are right.


See there ? I just knew we could agree on something.

I just wanted this group to know who they were dealing with. Now I, and
the rest of the group can just disregard your posts as they have nothing
to contribute to the nice people here.


Well, you could have disregarded my posts *before* you started
in with the name-calling, but where's the fun in that ? As for
contributing here, you're right I don't have much. I don't own
an outboard motor, a trolling motor, any electronic fish finders
or even a pick up truck. But I can catch bass on a fly rod and
on those admittedly rare occasions when that topic comes up I
do try my best to be helpful.

You know, I have to admit that Al is a better person than you, Dang, even
Rodney is. Have a nice miserable life. Now, go away twit.


And you're one of the *nice* people here ? Well, I'd sure hate to
meet the ones who aren't nice. ;-) As for going away, no, I don't
think so. I've been here on and off since this newsgroup was spun
off of rec.fishing and I'll be here on and off for as long as I
damn well please. And you are *STILL* a friggin' moron.

--
Ken Fortenberry




Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard December 28th, 2004 12:55 AM

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ME TOO!!!

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 05:32:52 -0500, "Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)"
sent into the ether:

Joe
You have my permission to spam me about SW both here and my private e-mail to your hearts content. I enjoy seeing what's up
at Secret Weapon Lures. Bill P.
================================================= =============

"Todd Copeland" wrote in message link.net...
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I see the main problem with spamming is that they clutter up your incoming
mailbox. So in that vain, we had one generous offer for a christmas

discount
on lures, and 25+ e-mails regarding the offer....


That is email spam, not newsgroup spam. A thread can simply be ignored.

So which is worse; one that could be easily deleted or FIFTY replies and
comments to sift through?


So, without the initial spam we would not have had 50 replies.

The problem is not with Joe's post, only. The thing I think Ken, and others
including myself, have a problem with is people turning this group into an
"ad group". I've seen this happen before. After time, all you will see is 50
posts about people's ebay ads and 1 post on actual fishing.

To quote the Charter: "Money-making schemes, advertising, and other types of
fishing are not appropriate in the group."

I personally don't think Joe's post was completly out of line but I respect
Ken's right to state it's "spam" (in this case, I don't think I'd agree 100%
with that statement, though).





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Ken Fortenberry December 28th, 2004 01:55 AM

Thanks to ROFB, from SWL
 
Eric Dreher wrote:
...
There are some people just not worth dealing with at all. These
individuals simply have no redeeming social graces, manners, class,
or breeding whatsoever. Rather than blood, nasty cynicism courses
through their veins, and likely nothing more than varying degrees
of evil through their soul.

Fort-no-berries is one of ROFB's top five.


Ah, another one of ROFB's "nice persons" heard from.
Golly, this newsgroup is just chock full of "nice persons."

;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

RichZ December 28th, 2004 06:12 AM

Thanks to ROFB, from SWL
 
mhood wrote:
it's what you have faith in....me and my black
Creme flip tails...


Fliptail worms were made by Stembridge. The closest thing in the Creme
line was the Shimmy series (Shimmy Babe, Shimmy Gal, Shimmy Granny).
Since you specifed 6", that would be the Shimmy Babe. One of my
favorites too, in the old days. But 95% of the LM over 6 I caught
pre-1980 came on a 9-1/4" Fliptail Daddy.

alwaysfishking December 29th, 2004 03:38 AM

Thanks to all the guys at SW lures. I could use a few more, like Joe I spend
quite a bit of time going into brush and trees to retrieve a lure..sometimes
not my own. As I looked back over 2004 a vast majority(95%) of my
spinnerbait fish were taken on SW, most of them (s Baits)were either hand
outs at the Classics or a few that were sent for an ROFB contest.

SW has done a lot for the regular members of this NG.. so those of you
who got ****ed thinking it was spam..too bad..too dam bad, especially those
who have nothing to contribute here. While I respect an individuals right to
lurk here, don't get upset at an offer for the regular members of this NG
and then start spouting your "Don't spam me crap" I know both Charles and
Joe,,they are genuinely good people. It was not a spam offer. Those that
think it is, should come down to the MTC in April and see how much these
guys do for this group. or stick around here and see how much knowledge they
contribute on a regular basis I have fished with a lot of people that post
here.... a better group I can't imagine..it's funny how most of the
objections to Joe's post came from the people that don't know any better.
Get over it, Happy New Year to everyone...wow I did it without cursing!!!!!


Randy-



Larry Runkle December 29th, 2004 03:38 AM


"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
Merry Christmas from Bob, Charles, Joe, and all the folks at Secret Weapon
Lures. Maybe we can help make the waning days of this season a little
merrier, and brighten up your new year as well.

From the ranks of ROFB came our first field testers, prostaffers, and
customers. A number of you have promoted us with your fishing buddies and
your local tackle shop dealers, and we really appreciate it. To give
something back, we've sponsored several events ROFB Classics and host its
Web site as well. Now, we'd like to do something for individual members.

Through December 2, we're offering VIP pricing, normally for prostaffers
only, to ROFB members. To take us up on this offer, go to
http://secretweaponlures.com, and click the "ProStaff" button under
"Login"
in the top menu.

User Name: rofb
Password: blackbass

Happy holidays.... and good fishing!

Bob Rickard (founder, Secret Weapon Lures)
Joe Haubenreich
Charles Summers



Thanks Joe, I always look forward to reading about your specials or new
lures, or whatever is going on at SWL. I'll get over to your site tomorrow
and check it out.

Larry



Larry Runkle December 29th, 2004 03:38 AM


"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
Merry Christmas from Bob, Charles, Joe, and all the folks at Secret Weapon
Lures. Maybe we can help make the waning days of this season a little
merrier, and brighten up your new year as well.

From the ranks of ROFB came our first field testers, prostaffers, and
customers. A number of you have promoted us with your fishing buddies and
your local tackle shop dealers, and we really appreciate it. To give
something back, we've sponsored several events ROFB Classics and host its
Web site as well. Now, we'd like to do something for individual members.

Through December 2, we're offering VIP pricing, normally for prostaffers
only, to ROFB members. To take us up on this offer, go to
http://secretweaponlures.com, and click the "ProStaff" button under
"Login"
in the top menu.

User Name: rofb
Password: blackbass

Happy holidays.... and good fishing!

Bob Rickard (founder, Secret Weapon Lures)
Joe Haubenreich
Charles Summers



Thanks Joe, I always look forward to reading about your specials or new
lures, or whatever is going on at SWL. I'll get over to your site tomorrow
and check it out.

Larry



Rob Storm December 29th, 2004 05:44 AM

Hey Bob, Charles, and Joe -- Merry Christmas guys, even if I'm a few days late
here. I'm sure going to visit the website and stock up. As you know I'm a
real fan --.I'm still using some of the original prototypes from years and
years ago before the bait had a name. Hope to see you at Center Hill this
year. Joe, if you'll bring your fiddle, I'll bring a guitar and a couple of
french harps.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com

Joe Haubenreich December 29th, 2004 06:39 PM

Sounds good, Rob. I'll even put on some fresh strings on my fiddles at the
same time I put new line on my reels for the Mid-Tenn Classic. See you then!

Joe
______________
"Rob Storm" wrote in message
...
Hey Bob, Charles, and Joe -- Merry Christmas guys, even if I'm a few days
late
here. I'm sure going to visit the website and stock up. As you know I'm a
real fan --.I'm still using some of the original prototypes from years and
years ago before the bait had a name. Hope to see you at Center Hill this
year. Joe, if you'll bring your fiddle, I'll bring a guitar and a couple of
french harps.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com



Joshuall December 29th, 2004 08:37 PM

amen.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear




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