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go-bassn wrote:
So you're declining my challenge, correct? Warren No way You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as you will start winning a lot more tournaments -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Your stuff all sucks.
WW -- http://www.warrenwolk.com Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Rodney" wrote in message ... David Norton wrote: It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying, " It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!" In other words someone could blast your day job and how you do it on this news group and you would never respond or defend yourself ? I spend hundreds of hours working and testing my tackle, when some one tells the "world" that it's all B.S. without even testing it,, yes I get mad as hell. I could care less what he personally thinks about my stuff, but acting as some kind of expert, and then bashing it At one point on this group I offered "free" stuff Warren came on here and told everyone that sent for it was a fool. What the hell was he "afraid" of ? He was afraid that he would loose his credibility. I'm not here trying to sell anything, I'm here trying to inform people of new ways to fish, more productive ways, ways that no one on here knows how to do, and that is the big killer for Warren, he can't figure out how my stuff works, and if he has not used it it and approves it, then no one on the board should use it. I could easily explain "How" I use these rigs to catch fish, but way back when I was trying to do that, I was called a spammer. I was forbidden by the elite few here from discussing catching fish with them, as each time I did I was spamming. I have found out it is "who" you are, not what your pushing, that is important to this group. It's OK to flame anyone here, but don't let them defend themselves -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Rodney, give it up on this NG!
-- David Norton "Rodney" wrote in message ... go-bassn wrote: So you're declining my challenge, correct? Warren No way You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as you will start winning a lot more tournaments -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never
been beaten, right? Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Rodney" wrote in message ... go-bassn wrote: So you're declining my challenge, correct? Warren No way You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as you will start winning a lot more tournaments -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
.....that would be GOOD news to a ......wait for it....wait for it...... ;-)
VACUUM SALESMAN! -- ba-dump--baaa.... tttisshh! Steve |
gobassn wrote:
No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never been beaten, right? Warren That's correct Warren, and when I have been offered to go head to head with pro's there was something that I was doing it for, either money, a contract, or press. My trip was totally paid for, as well as my time. I can't see any of my manufacturers paying for me, just to beat you, sorry but your name just does not carry that much weight in the fishing industry, actually I can't find it carrying any weight. I have offered you 4 hours of my time, to educate you in the new methods of bass fishing, and that is what me fishing against you would become, as you don't have a clue about how to turn lure presentation from 2 dimension to 3. Currently you only know how to "retrieve" a lure to make it move, you are limited to just that retrieval force, and of course gravity. You are limited to this, because your tools, only allow you to control this. My added tool allows another dimension, This new dimension allows you to makes lures act like "real" sources of food, better than that, it can make them look like easy meals. My tool goes even further, it allows you to work a lure in spots you can't even fish with your tools, way back against the bank behind all kinds of obstructions, holes in weeds beds no bigger than a foot, that you can keep a lure moving in for as long as you want, and makes other places easier, places you have to flip to, I can cast from fifty feet away, keeping you and the boat away from the fish. my tools allow just one cast to a bed, and you can work that lure forever if you would ever need to. You see my new fishing inventions allow you to keep your lures where the fish are, not have to just drag them by the fish. Alass, my tools are not for suspended fish in the middle of a lake, it is just for when they are on cover, beds, working the banks, holding of off the bottom, or ledges, feeding the raised points, and everywhere else but out in the middle of the lake. You see Warren it is not that I am a better fishermen than anyone else, it is just I have other tools I use that allow me to catch both more and bigger fish, bigger, because big fish, move very slowly over to a meal, sure they will lunge at something drug near their nose, but if something is a few feet away, they will take their time to get over to it. WI th my tools you can keep that lure in one spot giving the bigger fish time to examine it, then eat it I realize all this is hard for you to understand, as you have for many years mastered your tools, and now I'm throwing the unknown at you, and the unknown scares you, as well as makes you mad. It means you have to learn again. It means that anyone who has not spent the years you have learning 2 dimensional presentations, can now out fish you using 3. Well there is no reason to fear this for a while, as we are not going to be marketing this to bass fishermen, (this time around) but to the fishing for anything that will bite majority of fishermen in the world,, it will take the majority of bass fishermen a while to see how these new tools could open up a new dimension to bass fishing, just look at how long it has taken just plane drop shotting to come across the country. I have a new weight for those reluctant to change over, that weight lets you fish your soft plastics through the rocks as well as brush without snagging. I have other terminal tackle in the testing stage for those die hards of 2 dimensional fishing as well. The bad thing about this industry is the manufactures must catch the fishermen "first", actually that must catch the wholesale, and store buyers first, then the fishermen. you can have something that catches fish like crazy, but does not catch the fishermen, or the buyers -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared...
So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time. 90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it, a good look at a lure is the last thing you want to give a bass. Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it. Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them. Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass fishing... So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all (still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins. Warren "Rodney" wrote in message ... gobassn wrote: No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never been beaten, right? Warren That's correct Warren, and when I have been offered to go head to head with pro's there was something that I was doing it for, either money, a contract, or press. My trip was totally paid for, as well as my time. I can't see any of my manufacturers paying for me, just to beat you, sorry but your name just does not carry that much weight in the fishing industry, actually I can't find it carrying any weight. I have offered you 4 hours of my time, to educate you in the new methods of bass fishing, and that is what me fishing against you would become, as you don't have a clue about how to turn lure presentation from 2 dimension to 3. Currently you only know how to "retrieve" a lure to make it move, you are limited to just that retrieval force, and of course gravity. You are limited to this, because your tools, only allow you to control this. My added tool allows another dimension, This new dimension allows you to makes lures act like "real" sources of food, better than that, it can make them look like easy meals. My tool goes even further, it allows you to work a lure in spots you can't even fish with your tools, way back against the bank behind all kinds of obstructions, holes in weeds beds no bigger than a foot, that you can keep a lure moving in for as long as you want, and makes other places easier, places you have to flip to, I can cast from fifty feet away, keeping you and the boat away from the fish. my tools allow just one cast to a bed, and you can work that lure forever if you would ever need to. You see my new fishing inventions allow you to keep your lures where the fish are, not have to just drag them by the fish. Alass, my tools are not for suspended fish in the middle of a lake, it is just for when they are on cover, beds, working the banks, holding of off the bottom, or ledges, feeding the raised points, and everywhere else but out in the middle of the lake. You see Warren it is not that I am a better fishermen than anyone else, it is just I have other tools I use that allow me to catch both more and bigger fish, bigger, because big fish, move very slowly over to a meal, sure they will lunge at something drug near their nose, but if something is a few feet away, they will take their time to get over to it. WI th my tools you can keep that lure in one spot giving the bigger fish time to examine it, then eat it I realize all this is hard for you to understand, as you have for many years mastered your tools, and now I'm throwing the unknown at you, and the unknown scares you, as well as makes you mad. It means you have to learn again. It means that anyone who has not spent the years you have learning 2 dimensional presentations, can now out fish you using 3. Well there is no reason to fear this for a while, as we are not going to be marketing this to bass fishermen, (this time around) but to the fishing for anything that will bite majority of fishermen in the world,, it will take the majority of bass fishermen a while to see how these new tools could open up a new dimension to bass fishing, just look at how long it has taken just plane drop shotting to come across the country. I have a new weight for those reluctant to change over, that weight lets you fish your soft plastics through the rocks as well as brush without snagging. I have other terminal tackle in the testing stage for those die hards of 2 dimensional fishing as well. The bad thing about this industry is the manufactures must catch the fishermen "first", actually that must catch the wholesale, and store buyers first, then the fishermen. you can have something that catches fish like crazy, but does not catch the fishermen, or the buyers -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
go-bassn wrote:
Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared... So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time. How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything. There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ? Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6 plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there, discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board. 90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it, Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what, little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase. You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't. It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less than I thought you knew a good look at a lure is the last thing you want to give a bass. That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good look before pouncing my lures Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it. Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them. Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass devour the lures on my rig Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass fishing... I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing. So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all (still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins. Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have you succeeded with ? -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Mr Closeout Bin, lmao.
WW;-) "Rodney" wrote in message ... go-bassn wrote: Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared... So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time. How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything. There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ? Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6 plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there, discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board. 90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it, Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what, little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase. You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't. It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less than I thought you knew a good look at a lure is the last thing you want to give a bass. That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good look before pouncing my lures Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it. Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them. Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass devour the lures on my rig Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass fishing... I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing. So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all (still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins. Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have you succeeded with ? -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
go-bassn wrote:
Mr Closeout Bin, lmao. WW;-) I see you had no response to all of the information I provided below,, because I was "RIGHT",,, again,, so you went to name calling as your only response. I have proved my point, once again, I just hope some learned, something about you. As for me, the sales of my products will decide who is right about the closeout bins (at least I'm on the market, and in the top stores in the country with my tackle) I'm making money now, people are catching fish with my stuff, most are very, very happy with my stuff, once they learn how to fish them. I hope that you will be able to learn how someday. "Rodney" wrote in message ... go-bassn wrote: Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared... So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time. How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything. There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ? Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6 plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there, discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board. 90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it, Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what, little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase. You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't. It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less than I thought you knew a good look at a lure is the last thing you want to give a bass. That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good look before pouncing my lures Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it. Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them. Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass devour the lures on my rig Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass fishing... I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing. So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all (still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins. Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have you succeeded with ? -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Can't we just ignore him? He's going to hurt his arm patting himself on
the back. |
Now there's a good idea. Besides, his stuff isnt in any stores around here,
darn. Guess I'm stuck throwing inferior bass lures lol. Warren -- http://tri-statebassmasters.com "AJH" wrote in message ... Can't we just ignore him? He's going to hurt his arm patting himself on the back. |
He has a PHD you know, unfortunately it stands for
"Piled Higher and Deeper" He knows a few fact about bass and because of this it make his over priced, over patented junk, junk we need? He is a Master of Junk science. Has anyone ever seen so much sh!t come out of one dog? -- S |
"Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message ... Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is worthwhile, though, and SNIP Thank you Joe, you put it much more diplomatically and succinctly than I would have. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. ... Well said, Joe, I am glad you weighed in. -- Ken Fortenberry |
If I'm bothering any of you guys I sincerely apologize; If I'm bothering
Rodney, good ;-) Warren "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message ... Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is worthwhile, though, and SNIP Thank you Joe, you put it much more diplomatically and succinctly than I would have. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Joe, first off, I want to commend you for trying to keep this newsgroup a friendlier place, even though you are setting yourself up as a target for doing so. I think you found from my earlier email to you that I give credit where it is due, but I also hold others accountable. It sounds like you are saying that you think Rodney is trying to make a contribution here. I will do my part if he will do his. I think you will find that the harshest I have been lately is to say that I preferred Al's rantings to Rodney's. If he wants to contribute, and act civil, I think I can try to forget his many insults from the past, or at least I can try not to bring them up. The questions a 1. Can he keep from jumping out of everyone's killfile? 2. Can he post in such a manner that he won't wind up in more killfiles? |
"David Norton" wrote in message . .. It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying, " It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!" Well put. Now I remember why I rarely participate in this group anymore. This has been one of the most childish bunch of crap I've read in a long time. Fortunately not everyone in this group has participated in this bull and post info worth reading. |
go-bassn wrote:
If I'm bothering any of you guys I sincerely apologize; If I'm bothering Rodney, good ;-) Warren You used to, but I will no longer go down to your level to defend myself, you had a way to make me get down with you, but after this last bunch of post I found out why, It's just your lack of knowledge, so from now on, when you bash my products, I will counter with the techniques used to fish them properly, so Warren each time you take a shot at me,, just like you did at the start of all this, you will allow me to teach others another way to fish, one that is much more productive, than your way. By the way guys , I don't sell these products, the manufacturers do, they put the prices on them, and Warren, we will see if we can get a Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mt., or Cabella's out in your area. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Excellent post Joe.
"Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message ... Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is worthwhile, though, and I know that Rodney has an abrasive side to him. Several of us here do, too. And I know that some of the people ridiculing Rodney in this string has been personally offended in the past and so have a personal axe to grind with him. Others just express distaste for his attitude. Well, we have a right to express opinions related to bass fishing, bass tackle, boats, etc. on this group, and I guess we can stretch it to opinions about bass tackle manufacturers.... but by now the point has been made repeatedly. The repetitious Rodney-bashing going on here is getting tiresome. It appears to me that Rodney has been offering some reasonable, thoughtful, coherent responses here, especially lately. What do you say we cut him some slack? There aren't many fishing tackle manufacturers on this group. Lots of us hold firm opinions about bass promoters, manufacturers, and pros. From what I've leaned over the past four or five years, it's clear to me that some of those opinions are unfounded. On the other hand, some of the things Rodney has said have been right on target. If you're interested in gaining insights into the innovation, design, and manufacturing side of the industry, you might want to pay attention to what Rodney has of value to share and overlook the traits that you find personally distasteful. I've learned several things from Rodney, and I have no problem with trying new ideas... new lures... new knots, or whatever else he might suggest. I urge us all... just take whatever of value we find here, and show a measure of grace and courtesy in the way we treat each other, and keep the discussions on a higher plane, if possible. Indiscrete, hurtful remarks and public ridicule or scorn rankle and fester, and it's hard to just drop them and move on with our lives. If you're unable to put them behind you, then please don't use this forum as your personal soapbox to extract revenge or vent your spleen. Rodney doesn't hide his e-mail address here.... If you have something against him, take it up with him personally and leave us out of it. Joe snip |
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this
issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is worthwhile, though, and I know that Rodney has an abrasive side to him. Several of us here do, too. And I know that some of the people ridiculing Rodney in this string has been personally offended in the past and so have a personal axe to grind with him. Others just express distaste for his attitude. Well, we have a right to express opinions related to bass fishing, bass tackle, boats, etc. on this group, and I guess we can stretch it to opinions about bass tackle manufacturers.... but by now the point has been made repeatedly. The repetitious Rodney-bashing going on here is getting tiresome. It appears to me that Rodney has been offering some reasonable, thoughtful, coherent responses here, especially lately. What do you say we cut him some slack? There aren't many fishing tackle manufacturers on this group. Lots of us hold firm opinions about bass promoters, manufacturers, and pros. From what I've leaned over the past four or five years, it's clear to me that some of those opinions are unfounded. On the other hand, some of the things Rodney has said have been right on target. If you're interested in gaining insights into the innovation, design, and manufacturing side of the industry, you might want to pay attention to what Rodney has of value to share and overlook the traits that you find personally distasteful. I've learned several things from Rodney, and I have no problem with trying new ideas... new lures... new knots, or whatever else he might suggest. I urge us all... just take whatever of value we find here, and show a measure of grace and courtesy in the way we treat each other, and keep the discussions on a higher plane, if possible. Indiscrete, hurtful remarks and public ridicule or scorn rankle and fester, and it's hard to just drop them and move on with our lives. If you're unable to put them behind you, then please don't use this forum as your personal soapbox to extract revenge or vent your spleen. Rodney doesn't hide his e-mail address here.... If you have something against him, take it up with him personally and leave us out of it. Joe snip |
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is worthwhile, though, and I know that Rodney has an abrasive side to him. Several of us here do, too. And I know that some of the people ridiculing Rodney in this string has been personally offended in the past and so have a personal axe to grind with him. Others just express distaste for his attitude. Well, we have a right to express opinions related to bass fishing, bass tackle, boats, etc. on this group, and I guess we can stretch it to opinions about bass tackle manufacturers.... but by now the point has been made repeatedly. The repetitious Rodney-bashing going on here is getting tiresome. It appears to me that Rodney has been offering some reasonable, thoughtful, coherent responses here, especially lately. What do you say we cut him some slack? There aren't many fishing tackle manufacturers on this group. Lots of us hold firm opinions about bass promoters, manufacturers, and pros. From what I've leaned over the past four or five years, it's clear to me that some of those opinions are unfounded. On the other hand, some of the things Rodney has said have been right on target. If you're interested in gaining insights into the innovation, design, and manufacturing side of the industry, you might want to pay attention to what Rodney has of value to share and overlook the traits that you find personally distasteful. I've learned several things from Rodney, and I have no problem with trying new ideas... new lures... new knots, or whatever else he might suggest. I urge us all... just take whatever of value we find here, and show a measure of grace and courtesy in the way we treat each other, and keep the discussions on a higher plane, if possible. Indiscrete, hurtful remarks and public ridicule or scorn rankle and fester, and it's hard to just drop them and move on with our lives. If you're unable to put them behind you, then please don't use this forum as your personal soapbox to extract revenge or vent your spleen. Rodney doesn't hide his e-mail address here.... If you have something against him, take it up with him personally and leave us out of it. Joe snip Just have him show up at a tournament and defend his claims. That is all I want to see. Chris |
I have only been reading this thread, and have been reluctant to "add"
to it, but I would like to comment on something. Challenging Rodney to defend his inventions by personally fishing them is not the approach to challenging the invention it's self. Many inventors are not "experts" at what they are trying to improve with their inventions.....golf club manufactures hire engineers to figure out better ways to structure the clubs/balls so the "athlete" can improve their performance, the engineer may not even play golf at all. It is the same with many, if not most, inventions that help a performer at some skill activity. The inventor is often the one least qualified to "test" his/her invention. I realize that Rodney has offered up some claims as to his expertise in fishing...so I am not trying to circumvent those claims...just saying that the proof of the validity of the inventors claims is often provided by others more skilled in that field. In Rodney's case, he is a fisherman, and has developed some products he feels will help other fishermen catch more fish...and he certainly must have tried those products himself, at least to a degree that satisfied him that it was a viable venture to pursue. But I would wager that he would be the first to admit that he is not the most skilled of fishermen..especially bass fishermen. I think that the proof is in the "pudding" so to speak....don't knock it if you haven't tried it....don't try it if you choose not to...but either way, let the product speak for it's self....Rodney certainly doesn't do a very good job of speaking for it, but that does not automatically condemn the product....but rather, exposes his lack of "people skills". Disclaimer: This not an endorsement of the products, nor a "defense" for Rodney....just an opinion grin JK |
Just do what I did Chris.... kill-file Rodney and Warren and let them fight
it in there. "Chris Rennert" wrote in message ... Just have him show up at a tournament and defend his claims. That is all I want to see. Chris |
John Kerr wrote:
just saying that the proof of the validity of the inventors claims is often provided by others more skilled in that field. In Rodney's case, he is a fisherman, and has developed some products he feels will help other fishermen catch more fish...and he certainly must have tried those products himself, at least to a degree that satisfied him that it was a viable venture to pursue. But I would wager that he would be the first to admit that he is not the most skilled of fishermen..especially bass fishermen. I went to those who were "very" skilled fishermen, for evaluations. actually some of the very best, that wanted to catch fish with it. (in other words they gave it their best to use it properly) These are the famous fishermen, but I can't mention their names anymore here, because that is name dropping, and they were "bought off" by little old me,, that is what some say on here. Like I could buy off these guys. Isn't that a joke. I could easily post "their" comments here, but no one would believe them either, I could even post news paper stories, or quotes of these fishermen they made in news paper stories, and magazines. Do you understand why I get so upset with some on this group,, there is no proof they will accept ? Even if I went to one of their little tournaments, and won it, they would claim I did it using something else. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
You didn't killfile me Charles - you LOVE me!
Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Charles B. Summers" wrote in message ... Just do what I did Chris.... kill-file Rodney and Warren and let them fight it in there. "Chris Rennert" wrote in message ... Just have him show up at a tournament and defend his claims. That is all I want to see. Chris |
Warren awhile back you mentioned OT posts bothered you. You are almost as
guilty. As a completely neutral observer who has never met you I have found you entertaining, interesting and a genuinely decent fellow. So the other shoe falls, WHY start these flame wars with Rod??? Like Moe said so long ago about Al, ignore him. He had been gone until you awakened the beast. Sorry for the vent if I offend you. I do not mean to. Joe Z. "gobassn" wrote in message ... You didn't killfile me Charles - you LOVE me! Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions |
Don't be insulted Chris. It's just another tool in your box, and not any one
of them is able to replace any of the others. Nothing is going to be more valuable to you than the time you've invested. "Chris Rennert" wrote in message .. . :-)..........Charles, it is pretty much wishful thinking on my part. It is just insulting that someone can think that 14+ years of learning on my part can all be thrown out the window because of a rubberband. Well, I better get back to work. |
Charles B. Summers wrote:
Don't be insulted Chris. It's just another tool in your box, and not any one of them is able to replace any of the others. Nothing is going to be more valuable to you than the time you've invested. "Chris Rennert" wrote in message .. . :-)..........Charles, it is pretty much wishful thinking on my part. It is just insulting that someone can think that 14+ years of learning on my part can all be thrown out the window because of a rubberband. Well, I better get back to work. A number of years ago I worked with a bunch of guys, that they all were amazed at how sharp my pocket knife was, they all had me sharpening their knives. Dang I was good at it, it took me many years of practice to get a knife sharper than a new bought razor blade, then one day one of the guys came in magazine that showed this little device that would allow anyone to sharpen a knife better than me, B.S. nothing can do that, I claimed, proper knife sharpening is both an art and a skill, no one can come up with something that anyone can do it right with without spending years learning how. One day one of the guys brought in one of these new fangled knife sharpeners, he sat in the break room putting razor edges on everyone's knife, It just ain't so I claimed,, no way that thing can out do my edges. Well that Lansky came darn close, actually once a guy practiced just a little with it, he could out sharpen me in half the time. Now does everyone use the Lansky ? Hardly, but that thing will do what they claimed, it allowed "anyone" to put a razor edge on a knife. Think about it -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Rodney wrote:
Charles B. Summers wrote: Don't be insulted Chris. It's just another tool in your box, and not any one of them is able to replace any of the others. Nothing is going to be more valuable to you than the time you've invested. "Chris Rennert" wrote in message .. . :-)..........Charles, it is pretty much wishful thinking on my part. It is just insulting that someone can think that 14+ years of learning on my part can all be thrown out the window because of a rubberband. Well, I better get back to work. A number of years ago I worked with a bunch of guys, that they all were amazed at how sharp my pocket knife was, they all had me sharpening their knives. Dang I was good at it, it took me many years of practice to get a knife sharper than a new bought razor blade, then one day one of the guys came in magazine that showed this little device that would allow anyone to sharpen a knife better than me, B.S. nothing can do that, I claimed, proper knife sharpening is both an art and a skill, no one can come up with something that anyone can do it right with without spending years learning how. One day one of the guys brought in one of these new fangled knife sharpeners, he sat in the break room putting razor edges on everyone's knife, It just ain't so I claimed,, no way that thing can out do my edges. Well that Lansky came darn close, actually once a guy practiced just a little with it, he could out sharpen me in half the time. Now does everyone use the Lansky ? Hardly, but that thing will do what they claimed, it allowed "anyone" to put a razor edge on a knife. Think about it I don't doubt your claims Rodney. I get the point you are trying to make in the last message. Bottom line is your approach was terrible to this whole thing. My point was that if you are going to name drop it will mean nothing to me. So who cares what I think??? We obviously you do, because you are hell bent on getting this group to believe in your product. So my solution was, if that is your motivation, then come to a tournament and show us all how it works. That is how you will hook this group. Hell, look at horny toads!!!!!!! (Randy, Heavy, Jerry)!!!! My point about paying off as you put it the "Pros" was that those guys will benefit from helping you, either now or in the future when it takes off. Also, you keep saying how would you benefit from showing up to a tournament. Well there is a pretty diverse crowd. Ronnie Garrison touches a lot of people (fishing.about.com) plus fishes tournaments. Warren , whether you like him or not is a very successful tournament fisherman, and has the respect of a lot of people, including myself. Steve Huber is a Professional guide, and sees a ton of people a year, as well as a having his own outdoors show now!!!!!! So right there, you could benefit greatly by showing up and showing how your products work. Yeah, nobody is going to pay for your travel and lodging to come here but it might pay off. Well, I promise everybody this is the last post on this thread from me. Like it was mentioned before so much of this is just the same stuff over and over. Chris |
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:14:24 -0500, "Joe Haubenreich" joe at
secretweaponlures.com wrote: I know that Rodney has an abrasive side to him. Several of us here do, too. And I know that some of the people ridiculing Rodney in this string has been personally offended in the past and so have a personal axe to grind with him. Others just express distaste for his attitude. Well, we have a right to express opinions related to bass fishing, bass tackle, boats, etc. on this group, and I guess we can stretch it to opinions about bass tackle manufacturers.... but by now the point has been made repeatedly. The repetitious Rodney-bashing going on here is getting tiresome. It appears to me that Rodney has been offering some reasonable, thoughtful, coherent responses here, especially lately. What do you say we cut him some slack? There aren't many fishing tackle manufacturers on this group. Lots of us hold firm opinions about bass promoters, manufacturers, and pros. From what I've leaned over the past four or five years, it's clear to me that some of those opinions are unfounded. On the other hand, some of the things Rodney has said have been right on target. If you're interested in gaining insights into the innovation, design, and manufacturing side of the industry, you might want to pay attention to what Rodney has of value to share and overlook the traits that you find personally distasteful. Joe...although I'm sure you have the right intentions with your post...I'm equally positive that you're sending out the wrong message. (bc, IMO, you are reinforcing his bad conduct...while admonishing guys who hae been snake-bit by this guy). Like you, I bit my tongue and ignored this snake when he first posted on the group. However, I made a mistake. I shouldn't have as its these kinds of snakes that are hurting not only the fishing industry but also the future of fishing. We're not talking about "grumpy old men" abrasiveness here...we're talking about a snake who has viciously attacked each and every person on this usergroup and some very individually...all while spamming this group with his snakeoil products. Yes, he might have something useful to add to this group (as I've heard that some peeps out west eat snakes and find em' mighty tasty). However, the problem is that he has repeatedly proven that he's not worth what might be waiting behind inside his curtain #3. If this was a moderated group...Rodney would've been booted a long time ago for his conduct. (and if he said to us in person what he's said online...I suspect that he'd probably end up buried in some river swampland somewhere). But because this is an unmoderated group...Rodney continues to spam us with his crap and insult us every single chance he gets...for the most part...without recourse...except for a few brave souls who are doing the jobs we also should be doing. Frankly, we should apologize to the rest of the community here for not getting involved earlier to help gut this snake. And we should be thankful to those guys who had the courage to finally speak up and just telll it like it is regarding him. And we should let anyone "that this guy mentions" (ie. Bill Dance, etc.) who we run across know about his conduct. Q: "Hey, you wouldn't happen to know a guy name Rodney Long?" A: "Ehhhh...yea...the snakeoil bungee cord guy...:" Or we can all start by sending an email to Bill Dance at and tell ol' Bill that Rodney is using his name right and left regarding these "snakeoil" products and then send him a sample "Rodney" post. I'd send a similar one to the guys at Mojo Lures too. You can see their contact info at: http://www.mojolures.com/comp_pro.php 100-1 these guys don't want to have nothing to do with someone who spams fishermen and treats fishermen like Rodney does. Why? Because they know that he's poison for whatever they are selling! This future of fishing demands that we don't sit on our asses and let snakeoil salesman ruin the sport for us... Lastly, I have no ill will toward Rodney at all. When I first saw his posts on the group, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured he was just a sick, crazy old man (ya know the kind). If there is something wrong with him that causes him to be so hateful to this group and to whoever else he communicates with...I sincerely hope he finds the answer to that problem. In the meantime, the best thing Rodney could do for his products or any other product...is to not say a freaking word about em'... -- Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law Indianapolis, IN Email: Web Page: http://www.cooperlegalservices.com Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater Favorite Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosiertradingpost.com/FishingTackle 1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner |
In all due respect Dwayne... look at the subject of this thread, it was
started by Warren out of the blue. Nothing or noone here asked him to share this information, so what was his intent? I agree with everything else that you've said, but there is always the Kill-File option, and to the best of my knowledge... most newsreaders have it. I know for a fact that the good guys at Mojo Lures would be happy to hear about this, or at least they sure acted like it the last time I e-mail them. I was actually promised that Mr. Long would "never use his mouth, or fingers again to discredit [their] company again." I'm sure that Bill Dance would be glad to know this is going on too. Why don't you take this to them? "Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message ... Joe...although I'm sure you have the right intentions with your post...I'm equally positive that you're sending out the wrong message. (bc, IMO, you are reinforcing his bad conduct...while admonishing guys who hae been snake-bit by this guy). Like you, I bit my tongue and ignored this snake when he first posted on the group. However, I made a mistake. I shouldn't have as its these kinds of snakes that are hurting not only the fishing industry but also the future of fishing. We're not talking about "grumpy old men" abrasiveness here...we're talking about a snake who has viciously attacked each and every person on this usergroup and some very individually...all while spamming this group with his snakeoil products. Yes, he might have something useful to add to this group (as I've heard that some peeps out west eat snakes and find em' mighty tasty). However, the problem is that he has repeatedly proven that he's not worth what might be waiting behind inside his curtain #3. If this was a moderated group...Rodney would've been booted a long time ago for his conduct. (and if he said to us in person what he's said online...I suspect that he'd probably end up buried in some river swampland somewhere). But because this is an unmoderated group...Rodney continues to spam us with his crap and insult us every single chance he gets...for the most part...without recourse...except for a few brave souls who are doing the jobs we also should be doing. Frankly, we should apologize to the rest of the community here for not getting involved earlier to help gut this snake. And we should be thankful to those guys who had the courage to finally speak up and just telll it like it is regarding him. And we should let anyone "that this guy mentions" (ie. Bill Dance, etc.) who we run across know about his conduct. Q: "Hey, you wouldn't happen to know a guy name Rodney Long?" A: "Ehhhh...yea...the snakeoil bungee cord guy...:" Or we can all start by sending an email to Bill Dance at and tell ol' Bill that Rodney is using his name right and left regarding these "snakeoil" products and then send him a sample "Rodney" post. I'd send a similar one to the guys at Mojo Lures too. You can see their contact info at: http://www.mojolures.com/comp_pro.php 100-1 these guys don't want to have nothing to do with someone who spams fishermen and treats fishermen like Rodney does. Why? Because they know that he's poison for whatever they are selling! This future of fishing demands that we don't sit on our asses and let snakeoil salesman ruin the sport for us... Lastly, I have no ill will toward Rodney at all. When I first saw his posts on the group, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured he was just a sick, crazy old man (ya know the kind). If there is something wrong with him that causes him to be so hateful to this group and to whoever else he communicates with...I sincerely hope he finds the answer to that problem. In the meantime, the best thing Rodney could do for his products or any other product...is to not say a freaking word about em'... -- Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law Indianapolis, IN Email: Web Page: http://www.cooperlegalservices.com Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater Favorite Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosiertradingpost.com/FishingTackle 1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner |
"gobassn" wrote in message ... No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never been beaten, right? Warren I think he should take you up on this Warren. I mean, afterall, he has invented a handful of gadgets that should revolutionize all types of fishing so surely he can afford it by now...with all the pros and CEOs he has wowed, cross-country travel should be the least of his operating expenses this year. I mean with the vanity and name dropping coming from him, here at ROFB alone, I am surprised he is still even arguing here when he should be getting a head shot done for this year's Forbes list... I simply can't wait to see how the fishing annals hold up his inventions, and how they stack up to the Bream Buster (cane pole replacement) and the Pocket Fisherman (tote sack sized be-all replacement for all rods and reels).... ;-p -- http://www.warrenwolk.com Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Rodney" wrote in message ... go-bassn wrote: So you're declining my challenge, correct? Warren No way You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as you will start winning a lot more tournaments -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
"Rodney" wrote in message ... David Norton wrote: It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying, " It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!" In other words someone could blast your day job and how you do it on this news group and you would never respond or defend yourself ? Yes Rodney, but how many people do you know that sit around and get all worked up because people don't buy the propoganda about how *good* they are at their day job? Especially when it is them telling everyone how good at their day job they are? (In other words, you're going to need a better metaphor, better grammar and spell checkers too) So keep on bragging about how good you are at your "day job" and you will likely continue to catch flack over it. It's not your stuff most have a problem with as best I can tell, it is your relative (more like absolute) lack of anything resembling humility. Name and title dropping are not attractive, and most people who do it are, for the most part, considered quite vain and are usually taken with grain of salt at best. This is the bed you have made for yourself here, don't blame Warren or anyone else for it...I mean there is a twist on the old adage that goes like: Those who can, do. Those who can't, brag about how good they are... Self confidence is one thing, a superiority complex is quite another. I spend hundreds of hours working and testing my tackle, when some one tells the "world" that it's all B.S. without even testing it,, yes I get mad as hell. I could care less what he personally thinks about my stuff, but acting as some kind of expert, and then bashing it At one point on this group I offered "free" stuff Warren came on here and told everyone that sent for it was a fool. What the hell was he "afraid" of ? He was afraid that he would loose his credibility. I'm not here trying to sell anything, I'm here trying to inform people of new ways to fish, more productive ways, ways that no one on here knows how to do, and that is the big killer for Warren, he can't figure out how my stuff works, and if he has not used it it and approves it, then no one on the board should use it. I could easily explain "How" I use these rigs to catch fish, but way back when I was trying to do that, I was called a spammer. I was forbidden by the elite few here from discussing catching fish with them, as each time I did I was spamming. I have found out it is "who" you are, not what your pushing, that is important to this group. It's OK to flame anyone here, but don't let them defend themselves -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Dwayne E. Cooper wrote:
snip Frankly, we should apologize to the rest of the community here for not getting involved earlier to help gut this snake. snip Lastly, I have no ill will toward Rodney at all. Man, I'd sure hate to hear what you have to say about someone you *do* have ill will towards. -- Ken Fortenberry |
With respect Joe, what are you trying to say? If BS was a tin whistle,
that's a whole brass band. Marketing is OK on this group now? That' all his sanctimonious post are! -- S |
SimRacer writes:
snip ...surely he can afford it by now...cross-country travel should be the least of his operating expenses... Rodney, Why don't you put a pencil to airfare from Rooster-Poot, Arkansas (or wherever you're from) to Rhinelander, WI. Late August if I remember correctly. Touch down in Chicago or Milwaukee and I can drive the rest of the way or, if this is too friendly and freaky for ya, airfare to either and you pick up (the cost of) a rental car. The ball's in your court. Shawn |
Charles B. Summers wrote:
In all due respect Dwayne... look at the subject of this thread, it was started by Warren out of the blue. Nothing or noone here asked him to share this information, so what was his intent? I agree with everything else that you've said, but there is always the Kill-File option, and to the best of my knowledge... most newsreaders have it. I know for a fact that the good guys at Mojo Lures would be happy to hear about this, or at least they sure acted like it the last time I e-mail them. I was actually promised that Mr. Long would "never use his mouth, or fingers again to discredit [their] company again." I'm sure that Bill Dance would be glad to know this is going on too. Why don't you take this to them? What have I said to discredit Bill,, let's see Bill loves the Boomerang, that he told Hank Parker I taught him how to fish (he just thought he knew how until he used the Boomerang) these were his words, sure some of it was lounge and cheek, but he was acting serious. That he has done shows using it, that he is quoted all over the place singing it's praises. He even has his picture on the package, All of this is true so what else have I said that discredited him What have I said about Mojo? they make and sell the products I invent. That their owner thinks the wiggle rig is the greatest thing he has ever used fishing, or ever seen used Ok what's the beef -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Dwayne E. Cooper wrote:
Or we can all start by sending an email to Bill Dance at and tell ol' Bill that Rodney is using his name right and left regarding these "snakeoil" products Dwayne, Bill's picture was on the Boomerang rig, go to my web site and you will see Bill all over it, all with his permission of course, you can even see him fishing it, so "your" calling Bill a snake oil salesman ? and then send him a sample "Rodney" post. I'd send a similar one to the guys at Mojo Lures too. You can see their contact info at: http://www.mojolures.com/comp_pro.php 100-1 these guys don't want to have nothing to do with someone who spams fishermen and treats fishermen like Rodney does. I'm not, have not, spamed according the rules set forth of new groups, You need to look up those rules Dwain when I am attacked I used to respond with equal force, but never more than equal, Yes Dwain, you and another, sent them "part" of a thread, trying to cost me my contracts, I sent it "all" to them, once my post were "not" taken out of context, Mojo understood my responses Mojo sells three of my products, all the ones you call snake oil, so now your calling Mojo, snake oil salesmen ? Well that's OK I guess, they know they're not, they stand behind what they sell, including my inventions That's why you never see major manufacturers on this news, or any other news group. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
This is absolutely rediculous....you have a beef with Rodney, I have no
problem with that, but to get other people involved, like writing to manufacturers and "pros", about what is posted here is pure CRAP! Get over it! JK |
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