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wrote in message ...
White Bass is a freshwater Striped Bass.
A Hybrid is a cross between the fresh water Striped Bass and Salt water
Striped Bass.
A shell Cracker is just another type of Bream it is a thicker and larger
in general. It has a more yellow bellie than some others. I'm not sure
why they are called that.

I think I am going to have to get a fish chart for this group or look on the
net for one. Thanks. :-)

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wrote:
White Bass is a freshwater Striped Bass.
A Hybrid is a cross between the fresh water Striped Bass and Salt water
Striped Bass.
A shell Cracker is just another type of Bream it is a thicker and
larger in general. It has a more yellow bellie than some others. I'm
not sure why they are called that.

Shellcracker is the Redear Sunfish, named because they eat snails.

The actual White Perch is in the same family as the White Bass and
Striped Bass. In fish markets, White Perch is often Freshwater Drum.

I like the colloquial names; they make fish stories more colorful. But
they can create confusion because the same name can refer to completely
different species. For example, Walleye and Sauger are called "Jack
Salmon" in the South. They're considered one of the best tasting fish.
Often in fish markets, you'll see "Jack Salmon" advertised for low
prices, under $2 a pound. These "Jack Salmon" are NOT Walleye!
They're probably Whiting that have been in deep freeze for months.
Many people probably think they're actual Salmon (they're not Salmon at
all!), so the name can trick many people.

Bream usually refers to Bluegill in the USA, but there are actual Bream
in Australia, a completely different species.

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I have caught freshwater Drum. The world record came from below a dam
not too far away.
I'm not sure they are related to White Bass, at all.

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White Bass are not striped bass. Hybrids are a cross between a striped bass
and a white bass. Fresh and salt water striped bass are the same bass.
Striped bass are anadromous in nature. They go to sea and spawn in fresh
water rivers. They can also stay in the rivers forever. So the striped
bass has been transplanted all over the place. Here in the San Francisco
bay area, they go up the Sacramento and San Joaquin river to spawn and the
majority go to the ocean in the summer to feed. We catch them off the
beaches north and south of the Golden Gate. As well as in the rivers. Lots
up the rivers now, so go fishing until the water cools more, and they slow
down. The were originally planted in the late 1800's and 5 years later
there was a commercial fishery for them.

"Stinkweed" wrote in message
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wrote in message ...
White Bass is a freshwater Striped Bass.
A Hybrid is a cross between the fresh water Striped Bass and Salt water
Striped Bass.
A shell Cracker is just another type of Bream it is a thicker and larger
in general. It has a more yellow bellie than some others. I'm not sure
why they are called that.

I think I am going to have to get a fish chart for this group or look on
the net for one. Thanks. :-)

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From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Hybrids are a cross between a striped bass
| and a white bass. Fresh and salt water striped bass are the same bass.
| Striped bass are anadromous in nature. They go to sea and spawn in fresh
| water rivers. They can also stay in the rivers forever. So the striped
| bass has been transplanted all over the place. Here in the San Francisco
| bay area, they go up the Sacramento and San Joaquin river to spawn and the
| majority go to the ocean in the summer to feed. We catch them off the
| beaches north and south of the Golden Gate. As well as in the rivers. Lots
| up the rivers now, so go fishing until the water cools more, and they slow
| down. The were originally planted in the late 1800's and 5 years later
| there was a commercial fishery for them.

Those Striped Bass transplanted in the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Those Striped Bass transplanted in
the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--

And Striped Bass are not Striped Bass, just another name for a ROCKFISH.
Yea, I'm a Marylander, but anyone on the Bay knows they are Rockfish.

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"Terry Lomax" wrote in message
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wrote:
White Bass is a freshwater Striped Bass.
A Hybrid is a cross between the fresh water Striped Bass and Salt water
Striped Bass.
A shell Cracker is just another type of Bream it is a thicker and
larger in general. It has a more yellow bellie than some others. I'm
not sure why they are called that.

Shellcracker is the Redear Sunfish, named because they eat snails.

The actual White Perch is in the same family as the White Bass and
Striped Bass. In fish markets, White Perch is often Freshwater Drum.

I like the colloquial names; they make fish stories more colorful. But
they can create confusion because the same name can refer to completely
different species. For example, Walleye and Sauger are called "Jack
Salmon" in the South. They're considered one of the best tasting fish.
Often in fish markets, you'll see "Jack Salmon" advertised for low
prices, under $2 a pound. These "Jack Salmon" are NOT Walleye!
They're probably Whiting that have been in deep freeze for months.
Many people probably think they're actual Salmon (they're not Salmon at
all!), so the name can trick many people.

Bream usually refers to Bluegill in the USA, but there are actual Bream
in Australia, a completely different species.


The Shellcracker really eats snails? Our lake is loaded with snails.

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"Stinkweed" wrote in message
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The Shellcracker really eats snails? Our lake is loaded with snails.



And you will never get rid of them. I just learned a snail lesson. I just
started up my first aquarium since I was a kid 35 years ago. Got a lot of
good info off of rec.aquaria.freshwater and the tank is doin great BUT, I
bought some aquatic plants at Petsmart. With them I imported a snail that I
saw at the top of the tank. One poster from the other group said "KILL IT or
youll have hundreds". I didnt get to it in time and now 4 weeks after
putting the plants in, everything is great but I have 100's of snails to try
to get rid of. Apparently 1 snail can become 50 in a very short time, like
weeks.

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From: "Jeff"

|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote in message
| news:8VJaf.4$vC6.2@trnddc05...
From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Those Striped Bass transplanted in
| the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--
|
| And Striped Bass are not Striped Bass, just another name for a ROCKFISH.
| Yea, I'm a Marylander, but anyone on the Bay knows they are Rockfish.
|

A rose by any other name... :-)

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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"Stinkweed" wrote in message
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The Shellcracker really eats snails? Our lake is loaded with snails.



And you will never get rid of them. I just learned a snail lesson. I just
started up my first aquarium since I was a kid 35 years ago. Got a lot of
good info off of rec.aquaria.freshwater and the tank is doin great BUT, I
bought some aquatic plants at Petsmart. With them I imported a snail that
I
saw at the top of the tank. One poster from the other group said "KILL IT
or
youll have hundreds". I didnt get to it in time and now 4 weeks after
putting the plants in, everything is great but I have 100's of snails to
try
to get rid of. Apparently 1 snail can become 50 in a very short time, like
weeks.



Apparantly they want the snails in the lake, I sent the email to someone who
is on the board and they said they wanted the snails there as they help keep
the lake clean. It is clean I have to admit, you can see the bottom almost
in the most deepest parts. I have never seen a lake so clean.

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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Hybrids are a cross between a striped
bass
| and a white bass. Fresh and salt water striped bass are the same bass.
| Striped bass are anadromous in nature. They go to sea and spawn in
fresh
| water rivers. They can also stay in the rivers forever. So the striped
| bass has been transplanted all over the place. Here in the San
Francisco
| bay area, they go up the Sacramento and San Joaquin river to spawn and
the
| majority go to the ocean in the summer to feed. We catch them off the
| beaches north and south of the Golden Gate. As well as in the rivers.
Lots
| up the rivers now, so go fishing until the water cools more, and they
slow
| down. The were originally planted in the late 1800's and 5 years
later
| there was a commercial fishery for them.

Those Striped Bass transplanted in the late 1800's in your waters were
taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--
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And we appreciate that.

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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "Jeff"

|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote in message
| news:8VJaf.4$vC6.2@trnddc05...
From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Those Striped Bass transplanted in
| the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--
|
| And Striped Bass are not Striped Bass, just another name for a ROCKFISH.
| Yea, I'm a Marylander, but anyone on the Bay knows they are Rockfish.
|

A rose by any other name... :-)

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And a Rockfish here in the west is a member of the Sebastes family of fish.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "Jeff"

|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote in message
| news:8VJaf.4$vC6.2@trnddc05...
From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Those Striped Bass transplanted
in
| the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--
|
| And Striped Bass are not Striped Bass, just another name for a
ROCKFISH.
| Yea, I'm a Marylander, but anyone on the Bay knows they are Rockfish.
|

A rose by any other name... :-)

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And a Rockfish here in the west is a member of the Sebastes family of
fish.



Thats the species, not the name. Notice the NAME surrounding that SPECIES.
Quillback Rockfish, Black Rockfish. They are all rockfish.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "Jeff"

|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote in message
| news:8VJaf.4$vC6.2@trnddc05...
From: "Bill McKee"

| White Bass are not striped bass. Those Striped Bass transplanted
in
| the late 1800's in your waters were taken not too far off
my beach here in NJ.

--
|
| And Striped Bass are not Striped Bass, just another name for a
ROCKFISH.
| Yea, I'm a Marylander, but anyone on the Bay knows they are Rockfish.
|

A rose by any other name... :-)

--
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And a Rockfish here in the west is a member of the Sebastes family of
fish.



Thats the species, not the name. Notice the NAME surrounding that SPECIES.
Quillback Rockfish, Black Rockfish. They are all rockfish.



We call all the members of the family rockfish. We say we got a limit of
Rockfish. We do not say we got a couple of China Cod, a few Bolinas for a
limit of fish. We just say we are going for rockfish and we get a limit of
rockfish. They may be called rockfish as they live in the rocky reefs and
you also hook a lot of rocks and lost some gear to the rocks, when fishig
for "rockfish". I think stripers are only called rockfish in the Chesapeake
and in the southern regions.

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From: "Bill McKee"


| We call all the members of the family rockfish. We say we got a limit of
| Rockfish. We do not say we got a couple of China Cod, a few Bolinas for a
| limit of fish. We just say we are going for rockfish and we get a limit of
| rockfish. They may be called rockfish as they live in the rocky reefs and
| you also hook a lot of rocks and lost some gear to the rocks, when fishig
| for "rockfish". I think stripers are only called rockfish in the Chesapeake
| and in the southern regions.
|

Well I'll tell 'ya...

No matter where you are located they are actually called Morone Saxatilis :-)

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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I think stripers are only called rockfish in the Chesapeake
and in the southern regions.



Wrong. The species is called Rockfish pretty much everywhere by Scientists
because thats is its name, under various subspecies as well. Anyway, since
were on the subject of Rockfish, thought I would drop this link to a
rockfish fishing video of the future. Really you have to watch the whole
thing. Its 8 minutes long.

http://www.blur.com/html_quicktime/rockfish_480.html

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"Stinkweed" wrote in message
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Thanks Dave, I knew about the water, they can't be out long and didn't
think it hurt to hold them by the lower jaw for a quick picture. That is
true if you tried to hold it and your hand wasn't wet that would for sure
hurt the fish. Although I didn't know the reason why your hands had to be
wet, I'm a little squeamish, so I have used a very wet rag. I'm not a big
fisherman, err fisher lady, but I live on a lake and I love to fish. I
have since I was a kid and don't have to catch a monster to make me happy,
but is would be nice.


You wet your hands so they don't wipe off the fish slime. The dry rag or
even a wet rag will remove even more of the fishes potective slime than your
hands.

I personally think lifting a bass by the jaw so that it hangs vertically is
less harmful than wrapping your dry hands or worse a rag around the body of
the fish.

--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"Stinkweed" wrote in message
...


Thanks Dave, I knew about the water, they can't be out long and didn't
think it hurt to hold them by the lower jaw for a quick picture. That is
true if you tried to hold it and your hand wasn't wet that would for sure
hurt the fish. Although I didn't know the reason why your hands had to
be wet, I'm a little squeamish, so I have used a very wet rag. I'm not a
big fisherman, err fisher lady, but I live on a lake and I love to fish.
I have since I was a kid and don't have to catch a monster to make me
happy, but is would be nice.


You wet your hands so they don't wipe off the fish slime. The dry rag or
even a wet rag will remove even more of the fishes potective slime than
your hands.

I personally think lifting a bass by the jaw so that it hangs vertically
is less harmful than wrapping your dry hands or worse a rag around the
body of the fish.

--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


Thats what we had always thought, hold it by the lower jaw take the hook out
and get it back in the water.

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"Stinkweed" wrote in message

Sounds very interesting, I have called my little peddle boat a paddle
boat for so long it is going to be hard to remember I am using the wrong
name. I will have to go back and take another look at it.

Most peddle boats are paddle boats. If they have fins or a propellor they
aren't, but those with the big flat paddles that hit the water and push the
boat forward are also paddle boats.

--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...

"Stinkweed" wrote in message

Sounds very interesting, I have called my little peddle boat a paddle
boat for so long it is going to be hard to remember I am using the wrong
name. I will have to go back and take another look at it.

Most peddle boats are paddle boats. If they have fins or a propellor they
aren't, but those with the big flat paddles that hit the water and push
the boat forward are also paddle boats.

--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


To be honest I don't know what this has on the bottom of it, some black
rubber things that move when you peddle your feet, it is for 2 people and
has a canopy, it gives your legs one heck of a work out, till you get used
to using it.

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Some fish I keep. But I always pinch the barb in my flys when i fly
fish,
Mike

Stinkweed wrote:

How do you all feel about fish and release. I love to fish, but I don't
like to eat the fish so they are released, when I mention this some people
feels that it is not a nice thing to do. You should fish to eat or not fish
at all. I'm just curious as to what the opinion of this group is.

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when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly"

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