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Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
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Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:09:12 GMT, rw
wrote: Did they wipe your ass for you after you took a ****? No, they didn't have any Broke Back Mountain Faux Cowboys on the payroll. |
Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:10:47 GMT, rw
wrote: If the doctor finds your head up there tell him to cut it off. You don't need it. Good comeback. Made me laugh and forget the food. Thanks, Putz. d;o) |
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rw wrote:
Another thing to be careful about is securing your raft when you beach it. That may seem obvious, and the raft might seem securely beached, but if the wind comes up or the water rises overnight you could lose it. Last year one of Steve's parties called in on the sat phone that they'd lost both of their rafts. Steve's response was, "You mean that you lost both of MY rafts." I think I know those guys. LOL! It rained pretty much the whole trip. The river rose overnight, and sure enough, BOTH rafts were gone. They did find both rafts quite a bit downstream. Some had left their rods rigged in the raft. They were one big, tangled mess. In the meantime they were stranded in the wilderness. I don't know how it played out. I'm going to ask Steve in August. They finished the float, and had some great stories to tell. BTW, I know for a fact at least one shotgun, and one 44 mag was along on the float. It's a good possibility more guns were along. FWIW, I had a bear encounter worth mentioning. We were lined up on gravel bar fishing for silvers. A bear comes out of the brush behind us, and the only one that saw it was my buddy next to me. He said nothing, and continued fishing. A few minutes later I hear somebody say, "bear". I turn complete around and see it about 150 yards off to my left. It's just standing there looking around. We all start the "hey bear" chatter. It looks right at me and starts coming directly towards me(I'm the last guy in the lineup). I get louder, as do the guides, but the bear keeps coming at a very casual pace. I look over at the guides, and fully expect them to get between me and the bear............yeah right! The guides are now nervous, and they are asking each other if they have the shotgun. Neither took it with them that morning. If I wasn't nervous before that tid bit of info, I AM NOW! Anyway, the bear keeps coming, and the commotion gets louder, and the guides are doing their best to shoo the bear away. It finally veers off to it's left, and disappears into the bush....but not after it grabbed a salmon carcass and carried it into the bush. You could hear the bones cracking as it ate the fish. I could only think how loud my bones would've been. Was I in any danger. I thought so. The bear was about 75 yards before it veered off. The guides were shook up, and one said, "I didn't like that bear. It was acting squirrely". I got the distinct impression that if they had a gun, they would've used it. Maybe not to kill the bear, but to chase it off. Not all the guides carried a gun. I think a little over 1/2 did, and the ones that did, were the guides who were there for the whole season. We stayed at a riverside camp(tents, electricity, hot showers ect...). No lodge for this cheapskate. b |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .com... wrote: Thank you for keeping me busy and amused this afternoon. I am fasting for a medical procedure (we all know what) in the a.m., and getting my mind off of food by having a ****ing contest with you has helped. However, talk of fillet of salmon and fried potatoes and beer has not helped. I hope the doc tells me I am a "perfect" asshole in the morning. Good luck with that. I hope the results are perfect and you don't enjoy it too much. ;-) I was warned at my last physical, age 49, that I'm due for my first one this year. -- Ken Fortenberry Good luck with that also Dave, I had one two years ago at age 50. The worst part is not being able to eat before the exam, the best part is stuffing your face after the exam, that's after hearing everything is A-OK. -tom |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:12:29 GMT, briansfly
wrote: It finally veers off to it's left, and disappears into the bush....but not after it grabbed a salmon carcass and carried it into the bush. You could hear the bones cracking as it ate the fish. I could only think how loud my bones would've been. What time of the year were you there, Brian? During the spawn, the bears generally eat only the brains and skin - high protein areas - and leave the flesh alone. It isn't until later in the season, late September, early November, that they start eating the entire fish. Still, 75 yards is quite a distance. I'll post some more pix of a bear that swam across the river because we were catching lots of silvers. He walked towards us while we backed away,shouting and waving our arms. I made sure the pilot of the aircraft was between me and the bear. The guide was up-river with a man and woman from England. Mr. Bruin continued to advance, only to completely ignore us about 30 feet distance when he changed course and went up a trail. The same bear approached a small sow with two or three cubs. She gathered the cubs and stood in front of them, but the big male ignored her and started his swim across the Big River (upstream about a 1/4 mile from Cooks Inlet.) Salmon don't offer as much fight as a sow with cubs. d;o) Dave |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:07:13 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Good luck with that. I hope the results are perfect and you don't enjoy it too much. ;-) I was warned at my last physical, age 49, that I'm due for my first one this year. This is my second. Everything was fine five years ago, so I'm hoping all will be well this time. My brother died at age 76 from colon cancer, however he failed to follow-up on the operation. He was dead a year and one day later. The solution that they give you to drink (four liters) to clear you out tastes just like single malt Scotch. Really. I mean, it is just yummy. I can't place the year, but it reminds me of a Macallon Highland Scotch. Really! d;o) |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:14:01 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote: Good luck with that also Dave, I had one two years ago at age 50. The worst part is not being able to eat before the exam, the best part is stuffing your face after the exam, that's after hearing everything is A-OK. -tom There's a new hotdog joint in town. And their dogs are wonderful. I plan on eating at least three after the procedure, regardless the news. Joanne won't approve, but, what the helll......... |
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rw wrote: Another thing to be careful about is securing your raft when you beach it. That may seem obvious, and the raft might seem securely beached, but if the wind comes up or the water rises overnight you could lose it. Last year one of Steve's parties called in on the sat phone that they'd lost both of their rafts. Steve's response was, "You mean that you lost both of MY rafts." I think I know those guys. LOL! It rained pretty much the whole trip. That was the same as our weather. Must have been the same guys. Small world. The water came up so much one evening that Chas and Andy had to move their tent in the middle of the night. We almost lost one raft during the day, while fishing. We beached when it was calm, and while everyone was off fishing the wind came up and blew the raft into the current. That was a few minutes of panic. The way the Kanektok and the Kwethluk work, and the way all of Papa Bear's floats probably work, is that you fly into the headwaters by landing a float plane on a lake, one flight per raft more-or-less. Suitable lakes are few and far between. If you get stranded somewhere you have two options: someone can fly in somewhere upstream and pick you up in a raft; or, you ride a helicopter. Either one is going to be expensive, in addition to paying Steve for his lost rafts (and enduring his wrath and ridicule). The river rose overnight, and sure enough, BOTH rafts were gone. I'm trying to imagine the mental state of the first guy who went to check on the rafts that morning. It must have been something like when I came home one night to find my stereo gone. It just didn't make sense. I was dumbfounded, until the awful truth slowly dawned. They did find both rafts quite a bit downstream. Some had left their rods rigged in the raft. They were one big, tangled mess. If that was the worst they suffered, the angels were on their side. I'll bet it makes a great story. FWIW, I had a bear encounter worth mentioning. snip Was I in any danger. I thought so. What are you, Brian? Some kind of wussy gay faux cowboy putz? Don't you know those brown bears are just big cuddle bunnies? They're so interested in eating fish that they couldn't couldn't care less about your skinny liberal ass. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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dplacourse wrote...
The solution that they give you to drink (four liters) to clear you out tastes just like single malt Scotch. Really. I mean, it is just yummy. I can't place the year, but it reminds me of a Macallon Highland Scotch. Really! d;o) CoLyte? Like a good whisky? Nuts, I tells ya. I'm scheduled for colonoscopy number 9 in a few weeks (the joys of Crohn's and all...) I loathe, odiate, and abhor CoLyte. The first time I used it, the pharmacist gave me pineapple flavor. Said it's the best. To this day, I can't eat pineapple. Only recently have I been able to be in the same room as fresh cut pineapple. At least my doc lets me use mag citrate now. Doesn't come in pineapple flavor. heeby jeebies Good luck with the procedure -- hope all "ends" well. Dan |
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Daniel-San wrote:
dplacourse wrote... The solution that they give you to drink (four liters) to clear you out tastes just like single malt Scotch. Really. I mean, it is just yummy. I can't place the year, but it reminds me of a Macallon Highland Scotch. Really! d;o) CoLyte? Like a good whisky? Nuts, I tells ya. I'm scheduled for colonoscopy number 9 in a few weeks (the joys of Crohn's and all...) I loathe, odiate, and abhor CoLyte. The first time I used it, the pharmacist gave me pineapple flavor. Said it's the best. To this day, I can't eat pineapple. Only recently have I been able to be in the same room as fresh cut pineapple. That sucks, especially if you used to really like pineapple. Does it come in Budweiser flavor? :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:39:30 GMT, rw
wrote: What are you, Brian? Some kind of wussy gay faux cowboy putz? Nah, only one allowed per newsgroup. He did say 75 yards, I believe. That's quite a distance. Could it have been his first encounter with an Alaskan brown? I was taken aback with my first sighting of one less than 100 feet from us in the water while we floated towards him. He moved. Question: How many bear did you see on your float last year? Not bear *sign*, but actual animals. And, what did they do when they saw/smelled/heard you? |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:41:12 GMT, "Daniel-San"
wrote: CoLyte? Like a good whisky? Nuts, I tells ya. Shhhhhh, Dan. He doesn't know..... I'm using TRILyte - 4 liters of the stuff. I tried the flavoring in a glass first before "spoiling" the entire batch. It didn't improve the flavor. It does taste better than the stuff they gave me five years ago. |
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On 22 Jun 2006 16:21:46 -0700, "bruiser"
wrote: wrote: I've been within fifteen feet of many bears without any worry. 15 FEET? No worry? Wow. I'm not getting within 100 feet of even a local black bear (on purpose) unless it's dead. Brown Bear? 75 yards and heading toward me and I'm trying to outrun my friends. Probably successfully : -) bruce h I'll load some pictures and post them. You tell me how close I was. I don't mean to sound cavalier, Bruce, but they are a common occurance in parts of Alaska, and are very accustomed to seeing/smelling/hearing humans. |
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"bruiser" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: I've been within fifteen feet of many bears without any worry. 15 FEET? No worry? Wow. I'm not getting within 100 feet of even a local black bear (on purpose) unless it's dead. Brown Bear? 75 yards and heading toward me and I'm trying to outrun my friends. Probably successfully : -) bruce h Yeah, I'm afraid that 75 yards is a bit too close for comfort, when confronted with an animal that is known to eat human flesh and can run upwards of 40MPH! I got pics of lots of bear on our property on Globe Mt. here in Caldwell County, but have yet to encounter one when puttin' out the sweet feed I provide to them, the 'coons, squirrels, deer, crows... While our black bears ain't nothin' comparable to the brutes out in Alaska, I just can't imagine the casual nature that Dave describes. Especially, havin' watched a few episodes of Discovery channel's bear encounters in Alaska. Op |
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dplacourse wrote... I'm using TRILyte - 4 liters of the stuff. I tried the flavoring in a glass first before "spoiling" the entire batch. It didn't improve the flavor. It does taste better than the stuff they gave me five years ago. Don't know TriLyte. Can't be worse than CoLyte. Hard to imagine much worse than CoLyte. Hope all goes well tomorrow. Enjoy the Valium. Dan |
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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
While our black bears ain't nothin' comparable to the brutes out in Alaska, I just can't imagine the casual nature that Dave describes. Especially, havin' watched a few episodes of Discovery channel's bear encounters in Alaska. You don't get it. Dave is the frigging bear whisperer. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"rw" wrote... That sucks, especially if you used to really like pineapple. Not particularly, but the turn-off from the smell is still very powerful. Sorta like catching a sniff of tequila in the morning. Does it come in Budweiser flavor? :-) Only after...uhhhh....usage. ;-) Dan (*) Now playing :Crash Test Dummies |
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Daniel-San wrote:
"rw" wrote... That sucks, especially if you used to really like pineapple. Not particularly, but the turn-off from the smell is still very powerful. Sorta like catching a sniff of tequila in the morning. Does it come in Budweiser flavor? :-) Only after...uhhhh....usage. I was figuring that you might as well pick a flavor that you already hate. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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I'm no Alaskan, but, putting yourself within 15 feet of a Brown Bear seems just a tiny bit Cavalier to me. Maybe it's just me. bruce h |
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"rw" wrote ... I was figuring that you might as well pick a flavor that you already hate. Makes sense in an after-effects manner, but choking down a gallon of something you hate would be rough. Well, since the oh-so-pleasant effects begin about 1/3 of the way thru the gallon, you'll pretty much end up hating whatever flavor you choose. If you ever need to have the procedure, ask your doc if magnesium citrate is acceptable. Small bottle (mebbe a pint ?), reasonable flavor (cherry isn't too horrid), and you can drink it in one glass. Sorta like a mildly bubbly kool-aid. Until the fun begins. Dan Comparative laxatives on ROFF. It should be a surprise, but it isn't. |
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Daniel-San wrote:
If you ever need to have the procedure, ask your doc if magnesium citrate is acceptable. Small bottle (mebbe a pint ?), reasonable flavor (cherry isn't too horrid), and you can drink it in one glass. Sorta like a mildly bubbly kool-aid. Until the fun begins. I've had the procedure. It was a piece of cake -- far better than getting an infected boil on your scrotum lanced. That hurts. :-) I don't recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my colon on the TV. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message ... Anyone ever have to use it? Does it actually work? Seems to me that would really ****-off a bear. http://www.tbotech.com/bearspray.htm -tom according to experts such as Gary Sheldon and Dr Stephen Herrero of the University of Calgary, Pepper Spray halts 75% to 95% of all bear charges and the bear leaves the area after being hit with the spray. Even when a bear attacks after being sprayed Herrero believes the efficacy of the attacks is reduced and its use reduces injury and fatalities. Be sure to use the spray only directly on a charging bear, It should not be sprayed around a camp area or on a tent. The capsicum looses it's potency on exposure to air and may actually attract bears. Any bear is potentially dangerous. Keep your distance. In British Columbia it is recommended to keep at least 50 meters of space between yourself and a bear. Double that for a sow with cubs. If a bear approaches closer than those distances leave the area. Bears are aggressive because they compete primarily with other bears for food and space. Some believe that surprised bears charge and attack because they think the person is another bear or are unsure what the animal is. If you experience a surprise encounter at close range speak to the bear in a clear monotone and raise your arms up and slowly lower them straight out till they are parallel to your shoulders, raise again and lower. If you are with another person or a group stand close together so the bear sees you as part of a group. According to Herrero attacks on groups of 4 or more adults are rare if not unknown. BTW a fly fisher on the Castle River in Alberta was killed a few years back - he was insight of the access road that runs along the stream -- Some of my angling snaps: http://gallery.fishbc.com/gallery/vi...bumName=RalphH |
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"rw" wrote ... Daniel-San wrote: I've had the procedure. It was a piece of cake The procedure isn't bad at all -- not nearly as bad as the dreading. It's the nite before that sucks. -- far better than getting an infected boil on your scrotum lanced. That hurts. :-) Ouch. There's probably an interesting story there. I don't recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my colon on the TV. Yeah, the TV monitor is very strange. Almost surreal. I don't really pay it much attention anymore. I've had the same doc thru 6 of these things, and he's been a little more free with the Valium each time. Knowing the history of colon cancer and ulcerative colitis in my family, and knowing that as a former Head I may enjoy the occassional prescribed buzz, I think he does that as an inducement to get me back every year. Working so far... Dan |
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RalphH wrote:
Any bear is potentially dangerous. Keep your distance. In British Columbia it is recommended to keep at least 50 meters of space between yourself and a bear. Double that for a sow with cubs. If a bear approaches closer than those distances leave the area. Grizzly Man Dave LaCourse says 15 feet is perfectly safe. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote: ...I don't recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my colon on the TV. Is it any different than the live view? Wolfgang who could look it up.....but prefers primary sources. |
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Wolfgang wrote:
rw wrote: ...I don't recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my colon on the TV. Is it any different than the live view? That's funny. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Daniel-San wrote:
Yeah, the TV monitor is very strange. Almost surreal. I don't really pay it much attention anymore. I've had the same doc thru 6 of these things, and he's been a little more free with the Valium each time. Knowing the history of colon cancer and ulcerative colitis in my family, and knowing that as a former Head I may enjoy the occassional prescribed buzz, I think he does that as an inducement to get me back every year. Working so far... If you have a really good health-care plan maybe you can arrange a bi-weekly procedure. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"rw" wrote If you have a really good health-care plan maybe you can arrange a bi-weekly procedure. Hmmm... might be worth researching.... Dan |
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message ... Anyone ever have to use it? Does it actually work? Seems to me that would really ****-off a bear. http://www.tbotech.com/bearspray.htm -tom I'm on WiFi in a W.Yellowstone bar so I don't have time to read all the replies, Here is mine ... after several summers here I finally bought some bear spray ... like all insurance, I hope to never use it. I DO feel better having it in places known for bears. That feeling better can't be allowed to replace caution, of course. I bought it after a half dozen LOCALs told me that they carry it and hearing a couple of the stories about why. I've had numerous Black Bear meetings in the Sierras and never felt the need, but Grizzly tracks are pretty impressive G Actually more people have been killed by blacks, I'm told. The spray also works on Moose and Moose can be plain old mean. There is no guarantee that the bear will stop an attack if you spray him, and there is none that you will be able to get the spray out fast enough and use it. But there are numerous cases of bears that ran off after being sprayed and Craig Matthews tells me some Park bears turn and leave at the sight of the canister, they have been there, done that, and don't want another taste of the same. No technology is worth as much as common sense ... travel with care where you might find a bear -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Larry L wrote:
The spray also works on Moose and Moose can be plain old mean. "Moose spray" just doesn't have the same ring to it. :-) I understand that it also works on subpoena servers and repo men. BTW, I heard something funny on the radio, on the NPR show "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me." A study found that Duct Tape is the most effective remedy for getting rid of warts -- 85% effective, better than freezing with liquid nitrogen: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in525523.shtml On the other hand, it isn't worth **** for repairing ducts: http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/...duct_tape.html I guess they didn't want to call it Wart Tape. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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