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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
et...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
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the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.

And it hasn't occurred to you that taking preemptive action would negate
the possibility of such a dire fate ever occuring?

Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly
eats away at good healthy people

Kids? So, you've already ****ed in the gene pool.

Pity.

Wolfgang

Wolfy, proud to have 7 very conservative children... Proud to see what
they have been able to accomplish in life. Honor roll students so far.
Oldest one is getting a full ride to college on scholarships. Not afraid
to pick up and shoot a handgun or rifle. Knows what it is to be able to
show proper gun control = hitting target :-)

They unlike a liberal, know what it means to take responsibility for their
own actions and not blame in on society or anyone else. They know that if
they did it, they and they alone are responsible for the outcome. great
bunch of republicans they will be.



But The thought of you adding anything to the gene pool has me wanting to
add a lot of chlorine to the pool..

Eat a bullet.

Wolfgang

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
et...
Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats
away at good healthy people

Rick


rest assured, one day they will come around and realize
that Dad's an idiot. Most kids do, at some point, but is
always so much more fun when the parent has invested years in selling a
pantload of crap like the above...
Tom

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Rick wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Rick wrote:
the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living. Proud to
be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly eats away
at good healthy people
You don't have to teach them anything, just make sure they
don't ever get any more education than you had.

Not worried about that. The oldest one will no doubt go futher in college
than I did. Just proud to see they can think for themselves and the fact
that then know how to hunt and fish and can take care of themselves lets me
know I did my job as well as my wife. ...

While you're busy patting yourself on the back your kids
are growing up as clueless as yourself. You have nothing
of which to be proud.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Oct 25, 12:47 pm, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
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the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.

And it hasn't occurred to you that taking preemptive action would negate
the possibility of such a dire fate ever occuring?

Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly
eats away at good healthy people

Kids? So, you've already ****ed in the gene pool.

Pity.

Wolfgang

Wolfy, proud to have 7 very conservative children... Proud to see what they
have been able to accomplish in life. Honor roll students so far. Oldest one
is getting a full ride to college on scholarships. Not afraid to pick up and
shoot a handgun or rifle. Knows what it is to be able to show proper gun
control = hitting target :-)

They unlike a liberal, know what it means to take responsibility for their
own actions and not blame in on society or anyone else. They know that if
they did it, they and they alone are responsible for the outcome. great
bunch of republicans they will be.


Yah know, I've got two daughters that match the above profile except
for two things, they both got full ride scholarships but I decided to
pay and leave the money for some one that couldn't and they're both
liberal as hell.
Frank Reid
Who lives in a very Red state with the 6th highest taxes in the
nation.

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Oldest one
is getting a full ride to college on scholarships.

So, your child is going to school on charity/tax money ('cause that's
where scholarsip money comes from). Great how the some conservatives
eschew helping out those who can't afford something but are still
first in line with their collective hands out when it benefits them.
If you're gonna talk the talk, you'ld better walk the walk.
Frank Reid

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On Oct 25, 10:47 am, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
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the day I become a liberal is the day I wish to stop living.

And it hasn't occurred to you that taking preemptive action would negate
the possibility of such a dire fate ever occuring?

Proud to be teaching my kids that liberalism is like cancer. It slowly
eats away at good healthy people

Kids? So, you've already ****ed in the gene pool.

Pity.

Wolfgang

Wolfy, proud to have 7 very conservative children... Proud to see what they
have been able to accomplish in life. Honor roll students so far. Oldest one
is getting a full ride to college on scholarships. Not afraid to pick up and
shoot a handgun or rifle. Knows what it is to be able to show proper gun
control = hitting target :-)

They unlike a liberal, know what it means to take responsibility for their
own actions and not blame in on society or anyone else. They know that if
they did it, they and they alone are responsible for the outcome. great
bunch of republicans they will be.

But The thought of you adding anything to the gene pool has me wanting to
add a lot of chlorine to the pool..

Rick- Hide quoted text -

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Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF).. Yours kids I take it are
going to follow in the path of Bush and his kids.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner
wrote:

Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF)..

Psssst. Don't let Frank Jr. hear you. Your daughter is getting tax
money too.

Pssst. So am I. So is Frank. So are all my old fuddy duddy friends.
But don't tell Frank.

Ain't the U.S. of A great?

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While you're busy patting yourself on the back your kids
are growing up as clueless as yourself. You have nothing
of which to be proud.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wow Ken, I expected something like from the puppet Mike but not you.. But
that is ok.. As I said liberalism is a disease and by the time people
realize that, its usually too late.. Just like a cancer...

But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions right? And most of the
time, I agree with yours one here.. Hey it makes the world go around or so
they way :-) But anywho.. Hows northern il football doing? still suprising
everyone?

Rick

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Oldest one
is getting a full ride to college on scholarships.

So, your child is going to school on charity/tax money ('cause that's
where scholarsip money comes from). Great how the some conservatives
eschew helping out those who can't afford something but are still
first in line with their collective hands out when it benefits them.
If you're gonna talk the talk, you'ld better walk the walk.
Frank Reid


Free ride??? Do you know what it takes to get that ride??/ She has worked
her ass off to do it.. And she hasn't said she was going to even use it. She
is not sure of the school of choice yet.

No one here takes handouts, we earn what we have. have never used any type
of welfare, as we can and will work for owr own.

Rick

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"BJ Conner" wrote in message
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On Oct 25, 10:47 am, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message

...



Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF).. Yours kids I take it are
going to follow in the path of Bush and his kids.


My 24 yr old served in the Marines.. and I can only hope that the others
take a like course in life if they so choose.

Rick

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Rick wrote:
Wow Ken, I expected something like from the puppet Mike but not you.. But
that is ok.. As I said liberalism is a disease and by the time people
realize that, its usually too late.. Just like a cancer...

A liberal political view is just that, a liberal political view.
It's not a disease, it's not a cancer, and it really shouldn't
scare you out of your wits. What should scare you out of your
wits is having an "I've Got Mine, You Go to Hell" sense of
undeserved entitlement.

But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions right? And most of the
time, I agree with yours one here.. Hey it makes the world go around or so
they way :-) But anywho.. Hows northern il football doing? still suprising
everyone?

I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Oct 25, 1:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

wrote:
Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF)..

Psssst. Don't let Frank Jr. hear you. Your daughter is getting tax
money too.

Pssst. So am I. So is Frank. So are all my old fuddy duddy friends.
But don't tell Frank.

Ain't the U.S. of A great?
It's better than a lot of us derserve, but that don't mean we stop
trying to make it better.

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Rick wrote:

I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well they are a team that others seem to underestimate though...Its nice to
see them make people sit up and take notice from time to time..

all the political crap aside, You do have my respect when it comes to fly
fishing knowledge.. I have picked up a lot this past year reading some of
your posts.. But the Mikey posts have been the best at times :-)

Rick

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:27:07 -0500, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net
wrote:

But the Mikey posts have been the best at times

Mikey Jr. or Sr.?

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On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

wrote:
Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF)..

Psssst. Don't let Frank Jr. hear you. Your daughter is getting tax
money too.

Pssst. So am I. So is Frank. So are all my old fuddy duddy friends.
But don't tell Frank.

Ain't the U.S. of A great?

Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid

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On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid

No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..


Rick

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and
savings as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the
scholarships via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on
where she goes, she had things covered one way or another.. We are just
proud that she is a great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders
and isn't messed up in drugs or other things...Political views dont
matter at all when they are strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel
very fortunate to have the children we have. Can't take all the credit
though, her mom is great as are the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more) so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services that
only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick

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Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick



Well, uh, yeah...actually it does.

Tim Lysyk

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten
way out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms..
Hmmm makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick

Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/20767.html

Wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid, Rick.

No where did I say I liked Bush... Yes he has given all Republicans a bad
name.. Can't change that till next year.. But it will be worse with
Clinton.. More taxes even bigger government. After letting the Klintons rip
off the american public once, you would think that we all would be running
from them now, but we as americans have a short memory now. Lets face it, to
be in politics, its all about who can be the biggest crook and get away with
it.

Rick

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Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more) so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick

Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/20767.html

Wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid, Rick.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:17:23 -0700, rw
wrote:

Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more) so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

Don't get well soon, Steve!

/daytripper (waited 55 years for the right time to say that ;-)

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Rick wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten
way out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms..
Hmmm makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick

Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/20767.html

Wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid, Rick.


No where did I say I liked Bush... Yes he has given all Republicans a bad
name.. Can't change that till next year.. But it will be worse with
Clinton.. More taxes even bigger government. After letting the Klintons rip
off the american public once, you would think that we all would be running
from them now, but we as americans have a short memory now. Lets face it, to
be in politics, its all about who can be the biggest crook and get away with
it.

It's class warfare, and my class is winning, but it shouldn't be.

(apologies to Warren Buffet)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

You're a fool. I shouldn't even be wasting my time discussing this with
you, but ...

The US has the most inefficient health-care system in the civilized
world, or even the semi-civilized world. We have higher costs and worse
outcomes. The rich get the best care available, and the poor and the
struggling middle class get dick. It's a disgrace.

Now our Dear Leader, GWB, says he's going to veto the next SCHIP bill.
It's too expensive, leads to "socialized medicine" he says. This is
after spending billions (soon to be trillions) on the Iraq debacle
(based on phoney stove-piped "intelligence") and signing every
pork-laden Republican spending bill that's ever crossed his desk.

You're a fool.

-----
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....
Tom

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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....
Tom

King Solomon had nothing on you sir!

Op --while Oh So Envious! of rw's wealth, is in complete awe of Tom's
uncanny ability to render the true meaning of rw's inscrutably complex
sacrificial offerings.--

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Tom Littleton wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.


and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....

I guess you missed the point, which is:

Wealthy people have a responsibility to pay their fair share of taxes to
support the common good. The past (nearly) eight years has been a
history of taking from the poor and giving to the rich, or, more
accurately, the super rich.

It's curious how the poor and the struggling middle class have let this
happen. I suspect the root cause is the Horatio Alger syndrome -- many
people think that they will one day be wealthy. They're kidding themselves.

I've been very fortunate with my financial situation. It's been a
combination of hard work, frugality, good investments, and a great deal
of luck. Probably luck being the most important factor. I want to pay
more taxes, and I want everyone in my bracket to pay more taxes, so we
can have a decent health care, education, and other social services for
those not so fortunate.

I DON'T want to pay more taxes to support a deceitfully-sold endless war
in Iraq.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:17:23 -0700, rw
wrote:

Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

The motto of the nouveau riche: "I won't notice the cost" - en banner
below a field of Starbucks' cups and polo players on alligators wearing
Bluetooth earpieces, supported by Paris Hilton and Hillary Clinton,
made-up lionesses in, er, hot couture, with the latest, greatest, new
and improved for inset year here over-priced fly rod proudly yet
unknowingly as a bar sinister slashing the whole mess...

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more)

HOT DAMN!!! You can pay all of mine that you can afford...it'll solve
at least two of your many, um, issues...

so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

Evidently, neither of you girls has the slightest idea of the definition
of "liberal" (classical or "modern") or any understanding of economics
(macro-, micro-. political, or otherwise), and at least one of you has
no idea of the meaning of "middle class." Here's a hint: there is no
such thing as "upper middle class" - if anyone is a US citizen, and MUST
label themselves, they are at best "middle class" and there is no way to
gather enough money or property to ever become "upper class." If Bill
Gates, Warren Buffet, and all the Waltons pooled their assets and gave
it to another US citizen, that person would still be, at best, "middle
class." But it is VERY amusing to see that "Mr. Liberal" imagines
himself to have eeked up past others in "class"...


But do carry on,
R

A Patriotic Charity
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:17:23 -0700, rw
wrote:

Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we
would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each
one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and
savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the
scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes,
she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up
in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as
are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

The motto of the nouveau riche: "I won't notice the cost" - en banner
below a field of Starbucks' cups and polo players on alligators wearing
Bluetooth earpieces, supported by Paris Hilton and Hillary Clinton,
made-up lionesses in, er, hot couture, with the latest, greatest, new
and improved for inset year here over-priced fly rod proudly yet
unknowingly as a bar sinister slashing the whole mess...

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more)

HOT DAMN!!! You can pay all of mine that you can afford...it'll solve
at least two of your many, um, issues...

so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

Evidently, neither of you girls has the slightest idea of the definition
of "liberal" (classical or "modern") or any understanding of economics
(macro-, micro-. political, or otherwise), and at least one of you has
no idea of the meaning of "middle class." Here's a hint: there is no
such thing as "upper middle class" - if anyone is a US citizen, and MUST
label themselves, they are at best "middle class" and there is no way to
gather enough money or property to ever become "upper class." If Bill
Gates, Warren Buffet, and all the Waltons pooled their assets and gave
it to another US citizen, that person would still be, at best, "middle
class." But it is VERY amusing to see that "Mr. Liberal" imagines
himself to have eeked up past others in "class"...

GOD! how it must hurt to be you! I suppose that shouldn't be funny. :)

But do carry on,

Oh yes, do.

Wolfgang

A Patriotic Charity
 

On 25 Oct, 22:27, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message

...

Rick wrote:

I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well they are a team that others seem to underestimate though...Its nice to
see them make people sit up and take notice from time to time..

all the political crap aside, You do have my respect when it comes to fly
fishing knowledge.. I have picked up a lot this past year reading some of
your posts.. But the Mikey posts have been the best at times :-)

Rick

Liberal is not bad, but dumb liberals are a pain in the arse.

MC

A Patriotic Charity
 

On 29 Oct, 15:41, "Wolfgang" wrote:
wrote in message


Claptrap snipped

But it is VERY amusing to see that "Mr. Liberal" imagines
himself to have eeked up past others in "class"...

GOD! how it must hurt to be you! I suppose that shouldn't be funny. :)

But do carry on,

Oh yes, do.

Wolfgang

It would be funny if it only hurt him, problem is, it hurts a lot of
others.

Even funnier that he thinks he has any class at all.

MC