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Native Species/Natural Environment was Lake Ontario
"Willi" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: sanctimony sucks. (But pomposity rules?) Nah, that's just a hobby. Nah, I'm just a "sinner", so you're probably right. But I don't think I've ever reveled in "gang banging" a clueless newby, but I could be wrong. Well, yeah, you could be. On the other hand, I don't recall that any newby here has been gang banged simply for being clueless. Oh, there have certainly been a number of cases in which one psychopath or another has gone off on a newby for no apparent reason, but in cases where a diverse group of individuals who have demonstrated an absolute incapacity to agree on anything else have concurrently fired upon a newby the, cluelessness has invariably been merely one more factor exacerbating some other egregious offense. Besides, while I can't speak for others, I have personally never reveled in it......I consider it a solemn duty. Wolfgang not that there's anything wrong with deriving a bit of amusement from the performance of a solemn duty. :) |
Native Species/Natural Environment was Lake Ontario
"Willi" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: Man has been around for awhile but his impact on the world's environment has been anything but constant during that time. Man has made more changes to the world's environment in the last 200 years than the rest of the time he has been on this planet. Well, maybe. I mean, I guess it depends, at least in part, on how you define "more changes".....or who does the defining, for that matter. I've been meaning to ask that very question of the Pleistocene megafauna......but they never return my calls. :( Then too, there's that distressing business of grazing animals and deserts and all that ****. Give me a break. That's pretty weak. Think so? Well, I guess I'll bow to your familiarity with the literature which, if I'm not mistaken, is right up there on the top shelf.......next to your beloved twin studies. :) However, I don't think either method can produce native plants or animals. Human chauvinism, no different than that which informs the biblical imperative to subjugate the Earth and its multifarious inhabitants. From a geological perspective the difference between natives and invaders doesn't amount to half a jar of cold ****. Or, to put it another way, what you....or I....think is less than irrelevant absent a consensus....or....to put it yet another way, see the paragraph immediately below. Not sure why one should take a geological perspective. I'm not either......but several possibilities come to mind. Maybe we could ask a geologist? From a geological perspective, the extinction of man wouldn't amount to half a jar of ****. Probably true......but I'm not sure why one would take a geological perspective in this matter.....but you probably already knew that. It may be human chauvinism, but we're talking about the definition of human words. (at least I think we are) Given the paltry list of possible alternatives, I'd say it's a safe bet. Wolfgang |
Lake Ontario
"Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message ... Here just for your entertainment, Mr. Wolfie. After all, all the world is; is it not? Reasons for the existence of the world have the subject of much speculation and debate among theologians, cosmologists, philosphers, scientists, and a host of others at least since the dawn of civilization....and probably for a good while before that. The fact that all of them rest on the as yet unproven assumption that any sort of reason or reasons actually exist hasn't deterred the participants one whit. In fact, it's really what spurs the discussion. Naturally, it follows that if no one really know whether or not ANY reason exists or, if so, what that reason or those reasons might be, then any postulated reason cannot simply be rejected out of hand. Thus, I have to allow the possibility that the world exists solely for my amusement. However, before today, I never encountered any suggestion that this is indeed the case, nor am I aware of any evidence to support such a suggestion. I've always considered the fact that the world IS entertaining a fortuitous coincidence. I realize, of course, that your selfless efforts (as well as those of so many others) to make the world entertaining for me weakens the case for pure coincidence, but they do so only inferentially, and thus marginally. For the moment, at least, I will stick with the coincidence theory. Diverse? Nah, the more you post, the more you all sound the same. WHAP! goes the clue bat.......and with no discernible effect. You see, your respondents ARE diverse, and yes, they DO all sound the same.....more or less, allowing for stylistic differences. THAT was the point! Get it? :) Take a read sometime. Ooh! I LOVE reading! What would you recommend? Wolfgang |
Native Species/Natural Environment was Lake Ontario
"Willi" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Willi" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: Man has been around for awhile but his impact on the world's environment has been anything but constant during that time. Man has made more changes to the world's environment in the last 200 years than the rest of the time he has been on this planet. Well, maybe. I mean, I guess it depends, at least in part, on how you define "more changes".....or who does the defining, for that matter. I've been meaning to ask that very question of the Pleistocene megafauna......but they never return my calls. :( Then too, there's that distressing business of grazing animals and deserts and all that ****. Give me a break. That's pretty weak. Think so? Well, I guess I'll bow to your familiarity with the literature which, if I'm not mistaken, is right up there on the top shelf.......next to your beloved twin studies. :) Even weaker. You're about THIS close to hurting my feelings here, Willi, and I think that's just mean. :( Wolfgang |
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