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Russell D. April 3rd, 2008 07:45 PM

OT Vista
 
Mike wrote:
XP SP3 also "breaks" a few "old" applications, at least the latest
beta does. Remains to be seen whether the final release solves the
problems. So be careful if you want to "upgrade".
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

With regard to Vista, I also "downgraded" to XP, as I simply had too
many problems with Vista and various applications. Was also extremely
slow.

I run one machine with this;

http://www.ubuntu.com/

quite excellent, but some terrible problems with peripherals, most
especially external hardware drivers, ( scanner, printer, etc), so not
yet a real alternative to windows.


Try www.opensuse.org . It may cure some of those ills. I have given
Ubuntu a try a couple of times. I have used Suse as my main operating
system for 5 years now and I found Ubuntu lacking.

YMMV of course.

Russell

Larry L April 3rd, 2008 10:46 PM

OT Vista
 

"jeff miller" wrote


there is no better investment...



I was a reluctant father before becoming one ... overpopulation is a major
issue for me and has been since I was old enough to understand it, if not
contribute to it yet.

Now, I rank the experience with any I can even imagine ... but certainly
still think we all have to limit our production.

Being a late starter ( I was 39 when the kid arrived ) has allowed us
several advantages and we've worked hard at trying to provide opportunities.
My wife is the best mother I've ever seen in action, an artist at a
wonderful craft, a beautiful woman whose deepest beauty only became apparent
when her child arrived. My kid is 21 1/2 and it's been a little over 21
years since I had my last drink ... I was a flaming, drunk daily, alcoholic
back then .. when I realized I didn't want MY kid raised by one of those
....... he saved MY life, of that I am 100% certain.

Yes, parenting can be great but it can be tough, too.

For instance, apparently the ceremony to initiate him into pbk is something
parents are invited to and he wants us there. It's to be May 18th. My
wife already has airline tickets and Broadway tickets bought and paid for
and will be in NYC May 18th. I'M 'supposed' to be in Ashton, Id. fishing
the lower HFork on May 18th .... but I guess I'll be feeling uncomfortable,
a bumpkin out of place, at a stuffy ceremony over at University Of The
Pacific ... instead .... parenting is tough



Jeff, others,

Thanks




Tom Littleton April 3rd, 2008 11:26 PM

OT Vista
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
but I guess I'll be feeling uncomfortable,
a bumpkin out of place, at a stuffy ceremony over at University Of The
Pacific ... instead .... parenting is tough


congrats to you both, and your son. I'm sure your new social plans for the
day will work out fine, and be a bit more memorable.
Tom



Larry L April 4th, 2008 12:02 AM

OT Vista
 

"JT" wrote

I would agree completely. I was going off Larry's first e-mail where he
mentioned using it for e-mail and saving photos. Had he mentioned adding
older software in the first post, I would have said no way.



I just went off to buy Rosetta Stone Spanish programs and noticed this

"
Current Rosetta Stone® products have been engineered to install and run on
the Windows Vista operating system. Some 3rd party components used in
Rosetta Stone products have not been certified by Microsoft as ‘Vista
Compliant’. Accordingly, you may encounter some Vista-related operating
issues. Rosetta Stone technical support may or may not be able to resolve
these Vista-related issues. Rosetta Stone hereby disclaims any
representations, warranties, guaranties and conditions with respect to the
compatibility of the Rosetta Stone products with the Windows Vista operating
systems"


So even though it's "engineered" for Vista, they don't expect it to work on
it !!




JT April 4th, 2008 04:19 PM

OT Vista
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"JT" wrote

I would agree completely. I was going off Larry's first e-mail where he
mentioned using it for e-mail and saving photos. Had he mentioned adding
older software in the first post, I would have said no way.



I just went off to buy Rosetta Stone Spanish programs and noticed this

"
Current Rosetta Stone® products have been engineered to install and run on
the Windows Vista operating system. Some 3rd party components used in
Rosetta Stone products have not been certified by Microsoft as 'Vista
Compliant'. Accordingly, you may encounter some Vista-related operating
issues. Rosetta Stone technical support may or may not be able to resolve
these Vista-related issues. Rosetta Stone hereby disclaims any
representations, warranties, guaranties and conditions with respect to the
compatibility of the Rosetta Stone products with the Windows Vista
operating
systems"


So even though it's "engineered" for Vista, they don't expect it to work
on it !!


Old or NEW software (that's even engineered for Vista)! It's nice they let
you know before you buy it!

So far Vista has worked okay for me, however it's pretty much only been used
for standard apps, email, ERP, & the Microsoft suite. Anything beyond that I
have seen, heard and experienced issues.

Someone mentioned Microsoft ME over Vista, no thanks. I hated MS ME.

JT



rw April 9th, 2008 03:49 PM

OT Vista
 
wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

Larry L wrote:

...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)


Yeah, we're weird. We like software that actually works. :-)



My wife's MacBook looked nice and I was seriously contemplating a
switch (after all, it's Unix now), but she upgraded the OS (leopard-

tiger or tiger-leopard or whatever), and now the machine is sucking


wind from the bloated software, and sometimes crashes. And her new map
software won't even recognize the GPS that's plugged in, despite
claims that the Mac does not need any special drivers. I don't
understand the mac geeks who think that Apple can do no wrong.

I'll stick to Linux. OpenSuse right now, but I'll probably switch to
Ubuntu this summer.

Jon.
PS: And the one-button thing STILL drives me crazy...users aren't that
dumb! They CAN intelligently use more than one button! (BTW, my wife
didn't want her free iPod when she got her Mac, so I've been playing
with it. The too-overloaded one button thing drives me crazy there,
too. Maybe its me who's wierd...)


http://www.davidalison.com/2008/04/m...res-why-i.html

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