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"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
...
well put Dave.....i would say "they played the hand that was dealt
them"... at the
time......

it may be hard for some folks to understand that now...

Nah, not at all hard to understand. They were all heroes.....just like all
the German and Japanese and Vietnamese and Russian and Chinese and Korean
and Panamanian and Mexican and South African and Palestinian and Finnish and
English and French and Spanish and Portuguese and Colombian and Venezuelan
and Brazilian and Belgian and Syrian and Egyptian and Israeli and Polish and
Lithuanian and Romanian and Serb and Slovak and Mongol and Viking and
Teutonic and Roman and Greek and Moorish and Gothic and Visigothic and
Vandal and Tatar and Babylonians and Hittites and Midianites and Philistines
and Aztecs and Olmecs and Incas and Zulus and Masai and Lakota and Iroquois
and Hurons, etc. etc. etc. Yep, heroes, one and all. None of them wanted
to do it, but by golly the job needed to be done so they went out and did
it. After all, if THEY didn't go out and bash, smash, slash, shoot, flay,
skewer, impale, explode, rape, incinerate, dismember, poison, bury alive, or
otherwise destroy the world's children, who would?

And you indescribably evil thugs, butchers, murderers, idiots, thieves,
liars, rapists, back stabbers, adulterers, money worshippers and all around
filth dare to trumpet yourselves as the champions of freedom, valor, honor
and decency?

Wolfgang

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Except John Kerry and Max Cleland, they were just posers.

...
Kerry was a phony. ...

That's a lie, a demonstrable lie, and you should be ashamed to
say it. You're quite the GOP tool, Louie. Bad-mouthing GOP war
veterans is beyond the pale but swiftboating a Democrat is just
hunky-dory. John Kerry is a war hero and a patriot.

You will never get it, Ken. ...

Oh, I get it alright.

The military is a necessary evil, but at it's heart it is truly
evil. Which is not to say everyone in the military is evil, some
surely are not. I'm not a flag-waving, "my country right or wrong"
jingo and I'm not necessarily proud to be an American. My being
American was an accident of birth, I can no more be proud of being
American than I can be proud of having blue eyes. I was just born
that way. People like you are so wrongheaded that the English
language will never suffice to persuade you. So I won't even try.

(Jenny ate a t-shirt, the whole thing. Then vomitted it)

Puppies. It's sometimes hard to believe people actually bring
the damn things home on purpose. Kaylin got bored in the back seat
of the car and chewed up the sun shade that fits in the windshield.
My fault, I should have put a chew toy back there before we left.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:22:18 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

And you indescribably evil thugs, butchers, murderers, idiots, thieves,
liars, rapists, back stabbers, adulterers, money worshippers and all around
filth dare to trumpet yourselves as the champions of freedom, valor, honor
and decency?

Ah, yes, humankind. The only animal besides the ant that wages war on
its species. Good old humankind. Been waging war for what..... six
thousand years now? And you and Obama are going to change it, right?
You, Fortenberry, and Neville Chamberland. The unholy trinity.

Diminutive idiot.

Davey
(all gather 'round, "All we are saaaaaayyyying, is give peace a
chance. All we are saaaaaayyyyyyikes.." boom-Iran gotcha there
Neville!)

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:46:39 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Except John Kerry and Max Cleland, they were just posers.

...
Kerry was a phony. ...

That's a lie, a demonstrable lie, and you should be ashamed to
say it. You're quite the GOP tool, Louie. Bad-mouthing GOP war
veterans is beyond the pale but swiftboating a Democrat is just
hunky-dory. John Kerry is a war hero and a patriot.

Kerry's three PHs are phony. He got his first, a scratch on the top
of his hand while serving with the outfit he volunteered for - coastal
patrol. Little if any action. There was no action the night he got
his scratch and even the doc said it looked like a U.S. piece of
shrapnel even as tiny as it was. And, please tell me how you get a PH
for rice in the buttocks. "Reporting for duty" my ass. And then he
comes home and tells lies and meets with our enemies? Yeah, some hero
you got there, but McCain is a nutcase, right?

You will never get it, Ken. ...

Oh, I get it alright.

The military is a necessary evil, but at it's heart it is truly
evil. Which is not to say everyone in the military is evil, some
surely are not. I'm not a flag-waving, "my country right or wrong"
jingo and I'm not necessarily proud to be an American. My being
American was an accident of birth, I can no more be proud of being
American than I can be proud of having blue eyes. I was just born
that way. People like you are so wrongheaded that the English
language will never suffice to persuade you. So I won't even try.

But you just did.

(Jenny ate a t-shirt, the whole thing. Then vomitted it)

Puppies. It's sometimes hard to believe people actually bring
the damn things home on purpose. Kaylin got bored in the back seat
of the car and chewed up the sun shade that fits in the windshield.
My fault, I should have put a chew toy back there before we left.

Dave

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:22:18 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

And you indescribably evil thugs, butchers, murderers, idiots, thieves,
liars, rapists, back stabbers, adulterers, money worshippers and all
around
filth dare to trumpet yourselves as the champions of freedom, valor, honor
and decency?

Ah, yes, humankind. The only animal besides the ant that wages war on
its species. Good old humankind. Been waging war for what..... six
thousand years now? And you and Obama are going to change it, right?
You, Fortenberry, and Neville Chamberland. The unholy trinity.

Diminutive idiot.

Davey
(all gather 'round, "All we are saaaaaayyyying, is give peace a
chance. All we are saaaaaayyyyyyikes.." boom-Iran gotcha there
Neville!)

And many of you STILL call this thing "friend."

What do you all see when you look in a mirror?

Wolfgang

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:46:39 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Except John Kerry and Max Cleland, they were just posers.

...
Kerry was a phony. ...

That's a lie, a demonstrable lie, and you should be ashamed to
say it. You're quite the GOP tool, Louie. Bad-mouthing GOP war
veterans is beyond the pale but swiftboating a Democrat is just
hunky-dory. John Kerry is a war hero and a patriot.

Er, no. He was just some guy who wound up in combat when he tried to
avoid it. From rational accounts, he did an average job and spent a
fair amount of time trying to get himself out of a mess of his making
while still feathering his nest for the future...IOW, he did exactly the
same thing many others did and do, in the military and in civilian life
and there's no particular shame in it. But there's absolutely nothing
"heroic" about it, either.

You will never get it, Ken. ...

Oh, I get it alright.

No, you absolutely do not "get it"...but if it makes you feel any
better, Dave doesn't "get it" either.

HTH,
R

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:16:34 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:
Kerry was a phony. ...
That's a lie, a demonstrable lie, and you should be ashamed to
say it. You're quite the GOP tool, Louie. Bad-mouthing GOP war
veterans is beyond the pale but swiftboating a Democrat is just
hunky-dory. John Kerry is a war hero and a patriot.

Er, no. ...

Another GOP tool heard from.

But there's absolutely nothing
"heroic" about it, either.

Some would claim there's nothing particularly "heroic" about
having your airplane shot out of the sky.

And they would be correct - there was nothing "heroic" about McCain's
being shot down. It was particular actions while he was a POW, among
other acts, that were heroic.

You will never get it, Ken. ...
Oh, I get it alright.

No, you absolutely do not "get it"...but if it makes you feel any
better, Dave doesn't "get it" either.

So tell us, who does "get it" ? Who has the whole god, country,
patriotic, geopolitical, post-national, globally intertwined,
twenty-first century political philosophy all figured out ?

I'm gonna go with Jessica Simpson...the way I figure it, she'd probably
believe it, and hey, it could lead to some nekkididity on her part...

I'd like to meet that guy (or gal).

Me, too - see above Ms. Simpson...

I guess it's like art and porn - I can't define it, but I sure as hell
know it when I see it, and much like a nekkid Ms. Simpson, I enjoy
seeing it...the art and the porn as well as the understanding of
heroism, I mean. And neither you nor Dave "get it" when it comes to
heroism.

HTH,
R

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:29:59 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
...
I guess it's like art and porn - I can't define it, but I sure as hell
know it when I see it, and much like a nekkid Ms. Simpson, I enjoy
seeing it...the art and the porn as well as the understanding of
heroism, I mean. And neither you nor Dave "get it" when it comes to
heroism.

You can't define heroism because the word has lost all meaning.
When everyone who served in 'Nam, everyone in the military, the
fire department and the police force is a "hero" the word becomes
meaningless. Hell, Bill Ayers is in the news lately so I nominate
the Weathermen as true American heroes. They probably did more to
end the war in Vietnam than some of your more pedestrian heroes
like Martin Luther King Jr. et al. 1/2 :-)

I don't think that everyone who served in "'Nam" ("'Nam,"
Gracie...what, are you watching "Rambo" or something...?), everyone in
the military, the FD, PD, etc. are "heroes." In fact, a few are total,
complete, utter ****ups and criminals as far away from any rational
definition of "hero" as one could get. I do not think that Bill Ayers
is one, but I'm not sure he falls into the category of "bad guy" either.
MKL is marginally one, based on what I understand of his motives, good
and bad. John McCain is a "hero," John Kerry is not. And IMO, the
status of both doesn't, in and of itself, have the slightest thing to do
with their suitability or lack thereof to be POTUS.

HTH,
R

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On Oct 8, 8:58*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Worry about Israel, Scott. *You will hear more of them in the future
if Obama wins. *And it ain't gonna be good news.

Dave

David, Im just wondering if you are aware that the Israeli nuclear
stockpile is estimated to be at least 100 weapons, up to 400 weapons,
with way over 1000 delivery systems. Israel probably has more nukes
than all of Western Europe. Israel definitely has more Nukes than
China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined.

Do you really think that the Israelis are incapable of defending
themselves? I think you know or should know that they are armed to the
teeth and have much more capability than even most Israelis are aware
of. So why should Scott worry about Israel "if Obama wins" ? It is
very clear from experience that the Israelis would strike first if
they were seriously threatened. It is known that they alerted and
loaded for sure on at least one occasion.

Please, I know that if you were half awake during your sojourn in the
Navy, you already knew what I have just said. Just stick to the normal
slander please.

Dave

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:50:22 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
...
I guess it's like art and porn - I can't define it, but I sure as hell
know it when I see it, and much like a nekkid Ms. Simpson, I enjoy
seeing it...the art and the porn as well as the understanding of
heroism, I mean. And neither you nor Dave "get it" when it comes to
heroism.
You can't define heroism because the word has lost all meaning.
When everyone who served in 'Nam, everyone in the military, the
fire department and the police force is a "hero" the word becomes
meaningless. Hell, Bill Ayers is in the news lately so I nominate
the Weathermen as true American heroes. They probably did more to
end the war in Vietnam than some of your more pedestrian heroes
like Martin Luther King Jr. et al. 1/2 :-)

I don't think that everyone who served in "'Nam" ("'Nam,"
Gracie...what, are you watching "Rambo" or something...?), everyone in
the military, the FD, PD, etc. are "heroes." In fact, a few are total,
complete, utter ****ups and criminals as far away from any rational
definition of "hero" as one could get. I do not think that Bill Ayers
is one, but I'm not sure he falls into the category of "bad guy" either.
MKL is marginally one, based on what I understand of his motives, good
and bad. John McCain is a "hero," John Kerry is not. ...

Well, thanks for clearing that up. It's nice to know, in those
moments of doubt, that we have right here on roff the renowned
"hero" expert Rick Dean.

Yeah, heroes stand alone...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097501/

HTH,
R

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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:28:04 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:58*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Worry about Israel, Scott. *You will hear more of them in the future
if Obama wins. *And it ain't gonna be good news.

Dave

David, Im just wondering if you are aware that the Israeli nuclear
stockpile is estimated to be at least 100 weapons, up to 400 weapons,
with way over 1000 delivery systems. Israel probably has more nukes
than all of Western Europe. Israel definitely has more Nukes than
China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined.

Yeah, but you have any idea how much rocket fuel costs these days, even
wholesale? And I'm asking you, why would you want to shoot rockets? Why
can't you be like that nice Bobby Nussbaum and be a doctor or a lawyer?
Oh, no, you want to go and play with bombs...what respectable woman
would want that? Your father and I will never be grandparents...come
here, sit down, have a nosh and some coffee, maybe a little glass of
Manischewitz...look, I made a nice kugle...sit, sit, eat, eat, and we'll
talk...

HTH,
R

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Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:00:45 -0500, Rick wrote:

Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick

Are you sure? I mean, _100%_, and not, like, 99% or maybe 87.548% or
even perhaps 91.345%? Are you saying that you agree with every single
word, punctuation mark, the grammatical usage and every postulate
proposed for consideration?

HTH,
R
....****, I didn't even realize we were nominating things...

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"Rick" wrote in message
...
Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick

Yes, well morons will flock together much like birds of a feather, only
birds are literally more intelligent than the three of you and 99.9999999%
of the religious right.

Op

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"Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...

"Dry_Heat" wrote in message
...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.

No, it really not all that hard to believe that two hate mongers would
support one another.

I sure hope you and dave enjoy 8 years of Barack Obama, cause it sure
looks like it will come to fruition!

Op --McCain/MILF '08--



If Obama gets in, he is not going to be there 8 years. He is clueless as
well as most of the government on how to stop the economic morass we are
entering. We are going to have a bad next 4 years and I do not see Obama
helping with his raise taxes and spending scenarios. He keeps saying
"Change". But the only change I see from him is he wants to the change the
POTUS title to him. What we need is a fiscal conservative. And the next
POTUS is not one. Cut government spending by at least 25%. Cut the
bureauracy by at least that much. With a Democrat POTUS and and a Democrat
Congress, katy bar the door on spending.

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On Oct 8, 9:28*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave

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On Oct 8, 8:00*pm, Rick wrote:
Un ****in believable.

* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -


Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day

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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:40:31 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:00*pm, Rick wrote:
Un ****in believable.

* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -


Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying

Yes, let's:

"Right, yeah I get it, any Rebooblican is better than any Demoholigan,
right? What a crock of ****. Im a Demo, life long, and if I have
switched parties and voted absentee for McCain, and will vote for him in
the general (vs Gore) if I have a chance. However . . . Im voting for
the man, DESPITE his flirtations with Conservative goofiness. And its
because of three reasons.

1. He's tough and has shown his personal courage to stand up against the
gamut from physical torture to Senate purile bull****. The man is not
perfect but he is basically honest.

2. He thinks out of the ideological box of the conservative/liberal
framework that lazy people think is politics.

3. He has "on the ground" military experience, and, like many officers
of the Viet era, he is cautious about getting entangled in every tribal
conflict that comes down the pike, while supporting a strong defense at
a reasonable level. We are going to need that quality in the years
ahead."

Any guesses as to what character might have penned the above...?

Lessee:

"From: "David Snedeker" "

HTH,
R

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The Swift Boat nonsense never stops . . . . .

On Oct 8, 7:15*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:57:23 -0500, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
JohnKerryis also a genuine hero but that didn't stop the
Swift Boat lies.

Yeah, with a PH from "friendly fire" when he was on coastal patrol,

Sorry, not on coastal patrol, and not . . . not, according to those
known to be with Kerry (two enlisted guys), from friendly fire.

Having said that, friendly fire in no way disqualifies one for a PH in
and of itself -- just ask Bob Dole, and the circumstances of his first
PH.

and a PH from "rice in the buttocks". *

Nice try -- he didn't get a PH for that.

A BS for picking up the Army
officer out of the river after HE,KERRY, knocked the guy overboard
with chicken**** maneuvers to get away from a fight. *

Another nice try.

His boat sped away momentarily out of the kill zone. That's standard
procedure. One of the Swift Boat Veterans for "truth" members present
(Larry Thurlow) refused to say that Kerry "fled", because Kerry did no
such thing.

Oh, and that same guy -- Larry Thurlow -- received a Bronze Star for
doing precisely what Kerry did.

Both Bronze Stars were earned.

And if you think
he deserved a SS for what he did, then every swinging dick grunt in
Nam deserves one. *He did nothing special. *

You apparently have no idea what he did to earn the Silver Star. The
Navy did, and awarded him the medal accordingly.

Doug Reese

And heros get honorable discharges, not ones from a "board of
officers".

McCain is a hero. *Period. *And Obama is a nothing. *Never has been
anything and I pray he never will be anything. *Of course Jo will
retire if he is elected. *We need to cut back on our taxes, being the
unpatriotic Republicans that we are dontchaknow.

Dave

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 7:40*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:00*pm, Rick wrote:

Un ****in believable.

* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -

Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country *If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day

Ah, a champion of intellectual government, ( presumably you think you
are an intellectual?). Why aren´t you off painting monkeys shagging
diseased sheep you nasty stupid mother****er?

The day any of you nasty ignorant ****ers had any power at all with
regard to disenfranchising people would be the day to shoot you.

Seems you don´t know anything about evolution either.

Rather amusing that you people claim to be able to diagnose mental
health issues at a range of several thousand miles, but are completely
incapable of realising what nasty stupid ****s you are.

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 8:13*am, wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:40*am, DaveS wrote:



On Oct 8, 8:00*pm, Rick wrote:

Un ****in believable.

* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -

Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country *If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day

Ah, a champion of intellectual government, ( presumably you think you
are an intellectual?). *Why aren´t you off painting monkeys shagging
diseased sheep you nasty stupid mother****er?

The day any of you nasty ignorant ****ers had any power at all with
regard to disenfranchising people would be the day to shoot you.

Seems you don´t know anything about evolution either.

Rather amusing that you people claim to be able to diagnose mental
health issues at a range of several thousand miles, but are completely
incapable of realising what nasty stupid ****s you are.

Furthermore, and even more upsetting, you are unworthy of the freedom
and other advantages you enjoy, and not to be trusted with them, as
you have proven that you neither respect them, nor know how to use
them honourably and sensibly.

Indeed, in view of how some here behave, it is quite obvious that you
would be extremely dangerous unless kept under control, and it is only
the threat of punishment or similar that keeps you under control. As
soon as any real control apart from self control is removed, you
misbehave. That alone proves that you are unworthy of a free
environment, as in such an environment you are a very real danger to
others in it, and indeed compromise the environment itself.

That is exactly what you and others have done here.

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 8, 11:07*pm, wrote:

Any guesses as to what character might have penned the above...?

Lessee:

"From: "David Snedeker" "

HTH,
R

That was me apparently. I hope most of what I said is still true. But
a few things have changed. The first is time and health. A man's time
on earth is limited and health is a fleeting luxury. He is old while
the country needs youth. Obama has the energy edge.

The second is what experience and information provides. Experience has
shown the adventurist Neocon approach to defining and pursuing our
national interests, . . . to have been a failure and an expensive and
hopefully not fatal mistake. McCain is not picking up on the basically
changed world situation fast enough.

Information, more reliable than a while back is revealing changes in
the country's situation, changes which McCain's policies ignore. That
is very troubling in what it says about the competency and stamina of
the man and his national security team. Here are 2 specific examples,
1. Kandahar has fallen to the Taliban. The World media know this, but
US media are punting. McCain Inc ignores it. 2. McCain is ignoring the
negotiations between Iraq and the US, and between Iraq and Iran, and
between Israel and virtually all the enemy threats his speeches say no
one should be talking to. (Example: Israel can talk to Hezbollah,
Syria etc., but the US cannot?)

It comes down to this: McCain is a politician I supported years ago
who has grown old and maybe a little stale in the honorable service of
his country. I have an imperfect, but I think better choice in Obama.
Here's why in a nutshell:

1. Our country is in for some ****. I want a President who is smart,
well educated, knowledgeable of our Constitution, organized,
reasonably moral, politically effective in a diverse constituency,
young and energetic. I think Obama comes closer to these qualities
than McCain does now.

2. I want a President who can draw upon a "deep bench" of experienced
and tested cabinet members who know how to manage large public
bureaucracies. The Ds have that bench right now. The Republicans do
not have a deep bench right now, and in fact internalize a hatred of
government; How can you manage an organization you hate? Only badly,
as we have seen.

3. I want a President who is middle of the road, works for win-win
solutions, an empiricist who compromises his personal ideologies in
favor of solving the country's problems, who respects the art of the
deal and the role of compromise in advancing the interests of the
country and the welfare of its people. I think Obama comes closer to
these qualities than McCain does now.

4. I want a President who resists committing American forces in most
third world instability situations that do not directly threaten the
lives of Americans. There are lots of other countries that can and
should step up to that plate. Our forces need to stay focused on the
roles only we and a few other major powers can preform. I believe
those roles include self defence, nuclear deterrence (the pax nuclei),
de-militarization of space, nuclear non-proliferation, global warming
containment, energy transition, serious science, world population/food
policies, and space exploration. I think Obama is more likely than
McCain to resist more of these kinds of entanglements.

5. I want a President who will curb the recent steps toward State
Socialism. As real Conservatives know, there are serious infringements
on our individual Constitutional rights in the so-called "anti terror"
laws of the last few years, and they need to be corrected. The
government take over of the finance and banking system is also
troubling. Despite what the Republican ideologues SAY, their "bold"
actions have led us toward socialism.

I think McCain leans toward bold and brash solutions. He is not a
conservative in any sense. The Democratic party is committed to a well
regulated MARKET based economy, private ownership, private property,
universal private medical care, and a tax system that pays the bills
and balances the budget. There is not one of these areas for which
John McCain has a policy that I see as creditable. Obama is a
Democrat.

Thats enough. Fact is you will vote for who you will, But I think you
will do better personally in a coming Democratic led country than you
would under a Bush/McCain/Cheney/Palin administration.

Dave
If the next Pres was expected to lead the charge out front with a
sword in hand and a dagger in his teeth, I would probably award that
point to McCain. I will concede that the old gent looks tough.

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 9:57*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 8, 11:07*pm, wrote:

Any guesses as to what character might have penned the above...?

Lessee:

"From: "David Snedeker" "

HTH,
R

That was me apparently. I hope most of what I said is still true. But
a few things have changed. The first is time and health. A man's time
on earth is limited and health is a fleeting luxury. He is old while
the country needs youth. Obama has the energy edge.

The second is what experience and information provides. Experience has
shown the adventurist Neocon approach to defining and pursuing our
national interests, . . . to have been a failure and an expensive and
hopefully not fatal mistake. McCain is not picking up on the basically
changed world situation fast enough.

Information, more reliable than a while back is revealing changes in
the country's situation, changes which McCain's policies ignore. That
is very troubling in what it says about the competency and stamina of
the man and his national security team. Here are 2 specific examples,
1. Kandahar has fallen to the Taliban. The World media know this, but
US media are punting. McCain Inc ignores it. 2. McCain is ignoring the
negotiations between Iraq and the US, and between Iraq and Iran, *and
between Israel and virtually all the enemy threats his speeches say no
one should be talking to. (Example: Israel can talk to Hezbollah,
Syria etc., but the US cannot?)

It comes down to this: McCain is a politician I supported years ago
who has grown old and maybe a little stale in the honorable service of
his country. I have an imperfect, but I think better choice in Obama.
Here's why in a nutshell:

1. Our country is in for some ****. I want a President who is smart,
well educated, knowledgeable of our Constitution, organized,
reasonably moral, politically effective in a diverse constituency,
young and energetic. I think Obama comes closer to these qualities
than McCain does now.

2. I want a President who can draw upon a "deep bench" of experienced
and tested cabinet members who know how to manage large public
bureaucracies. The Ds have that bench right now. The Republicans do
not have a deep bench right now, and in fact internalize a hatred of
government; How can you manage an organization you hate? Only badly,
as we have seen.

3. I want a President who is middle of the road, works for win-win
solutions, an empiricist who compromises his personal ideologies in
favor of solving the country's problems, who respects the art of the
deal and the role of compromise in advancing the interests of the
country and the welfare of its people. I think Obama comes closer to
these qualities than McCain does now.

4. I want a President who resists committing American forces in most
third world instability situations that do not directly threaten the
lives of Americans. There are lots of other countries that can and
should step up to that plate. Our forces need to stay focused on the
roles only we and a few other major powers can preform. I believe
those roles include self defence, nuclear deterrence (the pax nuclei),
de-militarization of space, nuclear non-proliferation, global warming
containment, energy transition, serious science, world population/food
policies, and space exploration. *I think Obama is more likely than
McCain to resist more of these kinds of entanglements.

5. I want a President who will curb the recent steps toward State
Socialism. As real Conservatives know, there are serious infringements
on our individual Constitutional rights in the so-called "anti terror"
laws of the last few years, and they need to be corrected. The
government take over of the finance and banking system is also
troubling. Despite what the Republican ideologues SAY, their "bold"
actions have led us toward socialism.

I think McCain leans toward bold and brash solutions. He is not a
conservative in any sense. The Democratic party is committed to a well
regulated MARKET based economy, private ownership, private property,
universal private medical care, and a tax system that pays the bills
and balances the budget. There is not one of these areas for which
John McCain has a policy that I see as creditable. Obama is a
Democrat.

Thats enough. Fact is you will vote for who you will, But I think you
will do better personally in a coming Democratic led country than you
would under a Bush/McCain/Cheney/Palin administration.

Dave
If the next Pres was expected to lead the charge out front with a
sword in hand and a dagger in his teeth, I would probably award that
point to McCain. I will concede that the old gent looks tough.

On the surface at least, all very noble, as it was doubtless intended
to appear. It even makes a lot of sense, assuming that one accepts
some of the premises.

Unfortunately, your actions belie your words. You are not noble, and
you don´t give a **** about anybody else´s welfare. You are a nasty
stupid ****, who misuses an incidental freedom to insult, denigrate,
and upset others simply because he feels like it.

As pointed out elsewhere, completely unworthy of the freedom you
already enjoy, and on no account to be trusted with more, as you would
almost certainly misuse it in the same cavalier fashion you misuse
this one.

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 1:17*am, wrote:

As pointed out elsewhere, completely unworthy of the freedom you
already enjoy, and on no account to be trusted with more, as you would
almost certainly misuse it in the same cavalier fashion you misuse
this one.- Hide quoted text -


Well Michael my lad, don't be skulken back there in the Chapel, come
forward and share us a good fishen story. Do your bloody heart good
boy.

Dave
(Father Flanagan)
Snedeker

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On Oct 9, 10:40*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:17*am, wrote:

As pointed out elsewhere, completely unworthy of the freedom you
already enjoy, and on no account to be trusted with more, as you would
almost certainly misuse it in the same cavalier fashion you misuse
this one.- Hide quoted text -

Well Michael my lad, don't be skulken back there in the Chapel, come
forward and share us a good fishen story. Do your bloody heart good
boy.

Dave
(Father Flanagan)
Snedeker

You really are a most remarkably stupid **** aren´t you? As a direct
result of your and other´s machinations I will never again write
anything about fishing on the internet, and nowhere else either. I
simply do not need the hassle from nasty evil ****s like you who
pervert anything they touch.

Many many people have sent me e-mails, and some have even phoned from
other countries, thanking me for my efforts to date, or asking me why
my stuff is simply no longer available, or why I have ceased
contributing to various boards and lists, and telling me to simply
ignore really nasty dumb ****ers like you, LaCourse and Fortenberry,
to name just a couple, but I am apparently quite unable to do so. The
very thought of you makes me sick. The thought that you might ever
damage anybody else in the same way also makes me sick.

I have erased all the computer data on fishing I had, I don´t need it,
I have it in my head, and I have also erased all stories and notes.
The thought that anything I did might possibly give one of you nasty
****s pleasure, or even the means or excuse to write more lies and
**** is anathema to me.

If it were possible to seriously and permanently damage you in some
way I would do it without a second thought. All I can do is keep on
telling the truth here, and hope that suffices to prevent anybody else
being misused.

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:28:04 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:58*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Worry about Israel, Scott. *You will hear more of them in the future
if Obama wins. *And it ain't gonna be good news.

Dave

David, Im just wondering if you are aware that the Israeli nuclear
stockpile is estimated to be at least 100 weapons, up to 400 weapons,
with way over 1000 delivery systems. Israel probably has more nukes
than all of Western Europe. Israel definitely has more Nukes than
China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined.

Do you really think that the Israelis are incapable of defending
themselves? I think you know or should know that they are armed to the
teeth and have much more capability than even most Israelis are aware
of. So why should Scott worry about Israel "if Obama wins" ? It is
very clear from experience that the Israelis would strike first if
they were seriously threatened. It is known that they alerted and
loaded for sure on at least one occasion.

Please, I know that if you were half awake during your sojourn in the
Navy, you already knew what I have just said. Just stick to the normal
slander please.

Dave

Israel is afraid (make that "concerned") with Iran. She is VERY
capable of defending herself, but she is not going to sit by and wait
for Iran to lob a missle or ten her way, especially nuclear tipped
ones. She *will* strike first and that could lead to a third world
war, a nuclear one to boot. Something to consider, eh?

Now back to your regular idealogy spamming.....

Dave

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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:35:18 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:22:18 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

And you indescribably evil thugs, butchers, murderers, idiots, thieves,
liars, rapists, back stabbers, adulterers, money worshippers and all
around
filth dare to trumpet yourselves as the champions of freedom, valor, honor
and decency?

Ah, yes, humankind. The only animal besides the ant that wages war on
its species. Good old humankind. Been waging war for what..... six
thousand years now? And you and Obama are going to change it, right?
You, Fortenberry, and Neville Chamberland. The unholy trinity.

Diminutive idiot.

Davey
(all gather 'round, "All we are saaaaaayyyying, is give peace a
chance. All we are saaaaaayyyyyyikes.." boom-Iran gotcha there
Neville!)

And many of you STILL call this thing "friend."

What do you all see when you look in a mirror?

A realist.

Impotent imbecile.

Davey

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DaveS wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:00 pm, Rick wrote:
Un ****in believable.
AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -


Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day

ahh.. yup, just like a liberal PoS, can't take it so they go to trying
to tear someone down instead. Its not about 4 yrs ago, it about what we
have on the table in front of us.. and well, Obabma will as president
will prove just how bad it can get.. And it will...

Ya know, for a smart man, you sure can be short sighted...

Why is this getting no play??
 

Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho.....


On Oct 9, 6:19*am, Rick wrote:
DaveS wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:00 pm, Rick wrote:
Un ****in believable.
* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -

Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country *If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day

* ahh.. yup, just like a liberal PoS, can't take it so they go to trying
to tear someone down instead. Its not about 4 yrs ago, it about what we
have on the table in front of us.. and well, Obabma will as president
will prove just how bad it can get.. And it will...

* Ya know, for a smart man, you sure can be short sighted...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho.....

That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America.

McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political
campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately
stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According
to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with
domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn
in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in
a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is
repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ?

It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the
hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin
speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't
buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves.

Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"DaveS" wrote in message
...
On Oct 8, 9:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave

You are a dum fock. I said we need a fiscal conservative. Bush, and I did
not vote for him last time, was not a fiscal conservative. The RNC is very
right wing and not looking after the people. The DNC is extremely to the
left and they sure have not been doing anything to stem the flow of red ink
in the last year that they have had control of Congress. Why would you say
it is my team? I am a registered Democrat and JFK would be a Moderate
Republican these days. I am saying what the next POTUS and the Congress
should do. But neither of the two that are running is worth a crap.
McCain, a long term Senator. The same Senate that has even a lower rating
than Bush. Obama, a declared socialist in all his writings and actions up
until now. His proposals to cut taxes on 95% of the people (impossible, as
only 55% pay taxes in this country) and increase spending by
$800,000,000,000. And with a Pelosi House, there is going to be absolutely
no controls on spending. At least with two different parties in charge of
the proposing spending and the spending branches, our children and
grandchildren may have some money left after paying for yours and my
spending.

Why is this getting no play??
 

" That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America. "

Ken,

Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected?




On Oct 9, 9:06*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho.....

That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America.

McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political
campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately
stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According
to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with
domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn
in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in
a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is
repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ?

It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the
hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin
speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't
buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves.

Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Why is this getting no play??
 

~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
" That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America. "

Ken,

Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected?

If you want to have a Usenet conversation you need to learn
how to post properly. That is, your reply should be posted
below the post to which you're responding not on top of it.
Top posters are ****tards.

I don't really get the gist of your question. Are you asking
if the Secret Service can protect him from assassination or
if he'll be impeached by a Democratic House and convicted by
a Democratic Senate ? Yes to the former, no to the latter, so
yes to whatever your question was.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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as i age..i find it harder to remember who like to be
on top........thanx for your opinion....



" That is, your reply should be posted
below the post to which you're responding not on top of it.
Top posters are ****tards"




On Oct 9, 12:36*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
" That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America. "

Ken,

Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected?

If you want to have a Usenet conversation you need to learn
how to post properly. That is, your reply should be posted
below the post to which you're responding not on top of it.
Top posters are ****tards.

I don't really get the gist of your question. Are you asking
if the Secret Service can protect him from assassination or
if he'll be impeached by a Democratic House and convicted by
a Democratic Senate ? Yes to the former, no to the latter, so
yes to whatever your question was.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Why is this getting no play??
 

Ah, yes, Doug Reese...... Kerry's own little pitbull apologist. With
over 57,000 posts in several different news groups, most apologizing
for his hero J. F. Kerry, one has to ask oneself, "How much does Kerry
pay you to defend/adore/apoligize for him?"

Whatdoyahave, some sort of recognition signal that whenever someone
says a disparaging word about the "Hero", it clues you in so you can
remark on it and collect from Kerry? That has got to keep you busy.
d;o) I can tell you that Kerry is the second cheapest man that I know.
With an income in the 90's of somewhere around $300K/year, he gave an
astonishing $300 to charity. His excuse? He had kids in
college. Hell, he married two ATMs and makes more than me, but I
managed to pay for my kids' education AND give more than that to
charity.

He is a cheap *******, Reese, and you are his apologist.

Dave

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 11:28*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
" That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America. "

Ken,

Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected?

On Oct 9, 9:06*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:



~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho.....

That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the
44th President of the United States of America.

McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political
campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately
stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According
to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with
domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn
in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in
a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is
repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ?

It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the
hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin
speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't
buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves.

Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done.

--
Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? Or that he
might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney?
Stop talking silly.

You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing
intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy.
Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political
beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach,
they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no
one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own
blood.

I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way
I do. And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape
right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their
threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The
assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing
politics in this country.

Dave
Old Progressive Hot Head

Why is this getting no play??
 

On Oct 9, 10:37*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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On Oct 8, 9:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave

You are a dum fock. *

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why don't you just cue up your Ron Paul stuff. And your statement that
Obama is a declared socialist is proof positive that you will need to
go to re-education camp for a few years when I am made Commissar of
ROFF.

Dave