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Pat gave me a copy of Jon Krakauer's latest, "Under the Banner of
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It looks like somehting that would last.
My wife got a new kitchen........ -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com www.kiene.com www.kiene.com "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message y.com... The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men, Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I say it, maudlin sentiment. But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ? I got one of these things http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill circa 1938. The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com... The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men, Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I say it, maudlin sentiment. But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ? I got one of these things http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill circa 1938. The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench. -- Ken Fortenberry I got a copy of _How to Drive Your Sisters and Cousins Wild in Bed_ (large print edition) and some clean T-shirts. |
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Lat705 wrote: Seems expensive for a dubbing mixer. :-) , yeah, I suppose it is. But the new one's for coffee, it's the old one that gets to live on the tying bench. And besides, the point of a gift is to get someone something they wouldn't get for themselves. Scroll down this page http://www.estwing.com/newproducts.htm I also got the 12" moulding puller, it's cool too, but it's not near as nice a "gift", even if is quite a bit more practical. I've refurbished 12 of the 32 antique double-hung windows in this old house. This "gift" is a not so subtle hint to get to work on the other 20. ;-) Sounds like a VERY time consuming job. That's the price for living in an older home with lots of character. Lots of work to keep that "character" looking good. Willi |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote... garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this secret fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on the route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake! He never took us to the spot. And I have since decided to not take *anyone* from ROFF there. Sucks to be you! G -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote... garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this secret fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on the route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake! He never took us to the spot. And I have since decided to not take *anyone* from ROFF there. Sucks to be you! G So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you! Op --sigh.....-- -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) |
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So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you! I he changes his mind, you want to borrow my GPS? Lou T |
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"Lat705" wrote in message ... So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you! I he changes his mind, you want to borrow my GPS? Lou T Ok Lou, it's safe to say I'll borrow your *place finder* now, but don't let on to Warren. I'd hate for him to back out on me, after I put on such a show! Op --that GpS thingy does come with 'structions, right?-- |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote... Op --that GpS thingy does come with 'structions, right?-- *yawn* I take it that this means you're on to me? Op --****!-- -- Warren |
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I take it that this means you're on to me? Or that I am bored, don't give a **** what you think, am amused by your hypocrisy or all the above. Op --****!-- Yeah, ain't that deja a mother ****er?!?!?! Never lets you live down those TRs to "_____ Creek" ..... g Okay, I was *slightly* amused. - Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote... Or that I am bored, don't give a **** what you think, am amused by your hypocrisy or all the above. I can understand your boredom--happens to just about everyone; no one gives a **** what I think, until they ask for my assistance (?); not to sure about the "hypocrisy" part, as Lou and I were obviously playin'. Of course, some folks do get a bit possessive with *their* streams, so if I never fish your stream, I don't think it will kill me. Op --Western 'Clave hospitality?-- |
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I can understand your boredom--happens to just about everyone; no one gives a **** what I think, until they ask for my assistance (?); not to sure about the "hypocrisy" part, as Lou and I were obviously playin'. Of course, some folks do get a bit possessive with *their* streams, so if I never fish your stream, I don't think it will kill me. And Lou and I were joking around long before you got caught up in it. I don't recall asking for any of your assistance and am not sure what you meant by that. The truth of the matter is that I have taken people from ROFF to several spots that I won't name here on ROFF and am in the process of putting together my fourth conclave on a river that I fish quite often. I have taken people whom I have never met to some rather nice places, given them tips on other "out of the way" places to fish, taken them on free float trips, etc just because they were from ROFF. I have in the past even sent emails to people who have posted inquiries to ROFF about fishing the rivers in my area. Since you didn't get the hypocrisy part, I'll try to explain it to you. You have posted trip reports about streams that you won't even name and then accuse me of being "possessive" of the waters I fish. Here is yet another sample post. http://makeashorterlink.com/?U65D232F6 Why not name the river Opie? Perhaps you are a little "possessive"?????? ;-) Personally, I don't think you are being possessive. I imagine that it isn't an issue of you not taking people to that creek, it is just that you would rather not broadcast the name of the creek to ROFF and the world. I can understand and respect that because I do the same thing for a few spots I know. This is what the joke between Lou and I is about. He jokes around that he doesn't need to know the name (even though he always gets it...) and that I can't get him "lost" enough so that he will never find the place again because he will have the GPS coordinates. The joke during meetings and telephone calls spilled over to ROFF and you just got caught up in an inside joke and have made some conclusions based upon the joke. I jokingly said that I wouldn't take him there so he then offered you his GPS and I responded as part of the joke that I decided not to take anybody from ROFF there. Guess you still haven't understood that it was a joke even after I said that I was playing around with Lou. The whole situation is rather amusing to me because it seemed that you were getting a little touchy about it. You even became hypocritical IMO by calling me possessive when you won't even post the name of certain waters you fish. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote... And Lou and I were joking around long before you got caught up in it. I don't recall asking for any of your assistance and am not sure what you meant by that. The truth of the matter is that I have taken people from ROFF to several spots that I won't name here on ROFF and am in the process of putting together my fourth conclave on a river that I fish quite often. I have taken people whom I have never met to some rather nice places, given them tips on other "out of the way" places to fish, taken them on free float trips, etc just because they were from ROFF. I have in the past even sent emails to people who have posted inquiries to ROFF about fishing the rivers in my area. I knew that and was abit taken aback with the "yawn." I understand that folks feel the need to hide waters that they fish, however, I don't. Since you didn't get the hypocrisy part, I'll try to explain it to you. You have posted trip reports about streams that you won't even name and then accuse me of being "possessive" of the waters I fish. Here is yet another sample post. http://makeashorterlink.com/?U65D232F6 Why not name the river Opie? Perhaps you are a little "possessive"?????? ;-) Personally, I don't think you are being possessive. I imagine that it isn't an issue of you not taking people to that creek, it is just that you would rather not broadcast the name of the creek to ROFF and the world. I can understand and respect that because I do the same thing for a few spots I know. Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. Guess you still haven't understood that it was a joke even after I said that I was playing around with Lou. Naw, figured that y'all were messin' with one another, that's why the whole "yawn" and "hypocrisy" thing kinda got to me. Anyway, y'all play nice out West and I'll stick to my nice little eastern streams. The whole situation is rather amusing to me because it seemed that you were getting a little touchy about it. You even became hypocritical IMO by calling me possessive when you won't even post the name of certain waters you fish. Such is life, I guess this medium weren't meant for us thin skinned fellers. Op Warren |
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I knew that and was abit taken aback with the "yawn." I understand that folks feel the need to hide waters that they fish, however, I don't. Why would the yawn take you aback? All it was meant to be was a sort of "rolling of the eyes" kind of response. It was basically meant as "Your (fake) whine and sigh are having no affect on me." BTW, I don't need to hide my waters, I just do it in jest too. g Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. And I have posted about the Madison, Gallatin, Yellowstone and several other places in the past. As far as finding more posts, I found several.... Unfortunately I have no idea of where you are talking about since you didn't mention them by their real name or a name at all in a few. You could have been "jesting" and claim that you were talking about Upper Creek or wherever and I wouldn't know the difference. Whatever your reasons, it is of no great concern to me and just seemed rather amusing during the exchanges we had going. Naw, figured that y'all were messin' with one another, that's why the whole "yawn" and "hypocrisy" thing kinda got to me. What kind of got to me was the insinuation that I don't take my fellow clavesters to the good places that I know because I am too "possessive." It is simply not true and I have paid the price for it in the past. I had two good friends and fishing buddies get upset when I hosted the first Madison Conclave because I took some people over to the Beaverhead (some big secret huh?) and didn't talk to him much or fish with him at all for about two years. He got so ****ed when I took people at the Yellowstone Clave the following summer up to Slough Creek (another big secret I guess) that he cut off all communication until late this past summer. The other friend was a little miffed that I took some people up to "the Grinder." Thankfully nobody got miffed when I took people to the big brookie lake during the HF clave..... Anyway, y'all play nice out West and I'll stick to my nice little eastern streams. We usually place nice. Even George and the Pirate were well-behaved and civil to each other during the HF Clave. I'll make sure to take some pics so Jeffie can show you where I took him and was hoping to show you. But since you aren't coming, I am sure I can talk Lou into going so that he can send you GPS coordinates. g Such is life, I guess this medium weren't meant for us thin skinned fellers. This medium does sometimes make screwing around difficult since we cannot see the nonverbal forms of communication that people usually use when joking. It is, unfortunately, often far too easy to take something a different way than was originally intended and little misunderstandings like this happen. Oh well, live and learn; forgive and forget. Now back to putting in some more insulation in the attic....... This old house is drafty and won't keep warm! Maybe it being two below outside right now has something to do with it too. ;-) -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded, undiscovered spot on the internet? Willi |
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"Willi" wrote in message ... Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded, undiscovered spot on the internet? My favorite uncrowded undiscovered spot on the internet is: http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html I see no reason, let alone a good one, to keep it a secret. I think that's just selfish. Wolfgang who will disclose others.......SASE. |
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Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
"Warren" wrote in message ... Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. what stream ya talkin' bout op? hell, ya can talk about upper's all ya want, just don't mention @*^&%$ crik. ;-) as far as "secret" places go.... i'll elaborate on one where the secret is out. the catawba river tailrace yesterday suffered it's first flyfishing TV show event. it has also received quite a bit of media attention in the mags and state newspapers in recent months. i receive a few calls every week asking how to fish it. well, for starters, you need a drift boat, raft, or pontoon boat when the generation is on. there are a few places to wade when the generation is off but they are few. most of the river coarses through private lands so it is a nice scenic float below the upper 1/2 mile or so which is designated hatchery supported. all of the river below is undesignated water and the nc fish and game boys were pushing for a "trophy" trout designation (similar to TN's) from the confluence of muddy creek all the way to morganton, about 12 miles as the river flows. it appears that designation won't happen and it will remain undesignated for the time being.... won't know for a few months until after the public hearings. this is a neat experiment of sorts on this stretch of water. the state up to a few years ago released fingerling browns into the river to see if they would survive and grow. well, they have and some are "trophies." recent shock studies are impressive but what really was surprising is that they have shocked up some naturally reproduced browns.... they had all of their fins. that is encouraging. what is discouraging is that the fishing can be maddening at times as there isn't any "consistency" to the fish-catchin. i've now floated it about a dozen times this past year and 4 or 5 of them were skunks. yesterday was pretty good but i did a hell of alot of casting to scare up the fish that i did manage to catch. there are plenty of theories afloat as to why this is, i just think it is a crap shoot now and will be for awhile. what is really cool is the species in the river. up high is trout. middle is trout and a few smallies. lower is trout, smallies, some largemouth, perch, ..... and stripers that come out of lake rhodhiss and migrate up river every summer. there are also muskie but they are few. personally, i'm not sure if the river needs to be designated at this time. it will **** off the large contingent of local bait guys and plug casters. they have been fishing the river for years and i just don't know if it's right to take away their home waters and their culture.... wally |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... Chalked up as a misunderstandin'. Op Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) |
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"Willi" wrote in message ... Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it. Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded, undiscovered spot on the internet? What's undiscovered? If I don't, someone else will? Uncrowded is a relative term. Are you plannin' to bring a crowd out here from CO. to fish my favorite uncrowded, recently discovered spots? Op --I been talkin' about fishin' spot for several years now and they ain't been over run just yet. Go figure?-- Willi |
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Wolfgang who will disclose others.......SASE. In the mail! Op |
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"walt winter" wrote in message ... what stream ya talkin' bout op? hell, ya can talk about upper's all ya want, just don't mention @*^&%$ crik. ;-) wally For the sake of friendship, it ain't gonna happen. Op --Who doesn't want to know the location of anyone's fave stream, ever again!-- |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:43:16 GMT, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
wrote: "Warren" wrote in message .. . Chalked up as a misunderstandin'. The rest of us knew that three days ago... /daytripper (it was fun watching you youngsters work it out ;-) |
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"daytripper" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:43:16 GMT, "Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote: "Warren" wrote in message .. . Chalked up as a misunderstandin'. The rest of us knew that three days ago... /daytripper (it was fun watching you youngsters work it out ;-) Thanks for *all* your help! Op --lookin' for somethin' smokey to put in my lungs!-- |
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Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: For the sake of friendship, it ain't gonna happen. man, that's nice. you wanna float the catawbee again? wally |
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