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Mark Bowen August 29th, 2009 02:16 AM

Ted Kennedy
 

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009082819570175249-dplacourse@aolcom...
**** happens and life goes on. I am the last of my generation. I have
lost a brother and sister, both suddenly. I did not try to get a marriage
annuled after more than 25 years of marriage, and by so doing, making my
offspring legally *******s. Nor did I kill anyone, make havoc in a bar
with Dodd, or go on a drunken spree that has lasted ever so long. Ted
Kennedy is the weakest of the three brothers (I do not include Joe because
Ted did no know him). I am sorry for his death, but I certainly will not
miss his lies and hypocrisy. Richard was correct in his admonition of the
man. Some will think him a saint; I look upon him as a joke, dead or
alive.

Dave


So speaks the living Jester! Good on ya Davey.

Op




Todd[_2_] August 29th, 2009 03:27 AM

Ted Kennedy
 
John B wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
...
"Teddy was thrown out of Harvard in 1951 for cheating"

"but the senator's carousing -- and testimony about him wandering
about the house in his shirttails and no pants"

"Kennedy drove his car off a bridge and into a pond on Chappaquiddick
Island, on Martha's Vineyard. Mary Jo Kopechne, a 28-year-old worker
with RFK's campaign, was found dead in the submerged car's back seat
10 hours later."

Nice legacy, Teddy...

Guess you didn't have it in you to stick around long enough to get
voted
out like the rest of your croonies will in 2010...



A surprisingly astute observation from someone who has never, ever f**ked
up.

John... there but for the grace of god...


John,

The woman was pregnant, probably with his kid, and
she did not drown. She suffocated. So, somehow,
the drunk managed to get out of the car underwater
and close the door behind himself so she would
suffocate instead of drown. I say "murder one".

He also negotiated with the Soviets behind Reagan's
and the state department's backs -- can we cay "treason".
(That was discovered in the KGB's archives.)

Have you heard his nasty, vitriolic comments on the
senate floor about Judge Bork and Clarance Thomas?
This is not a nice man by any stick. He tried
to destroy these mens careers and even their
very lives.

Lets not forget the "waitress sandwiches". What
a pervert.

And, no not "there but for the grace of god".
Who anyone could compare there tribulations
in life to that pig is incredulous.

Just my 2 cents.

-T

Fred August 29th, 2009 04:00 AM

Ted Kennedy
 

On 28-Aug-2009, David LaCourse wrote:

am sorry for his death,
but I certainly will not miss his lies and hypocrisy.


Holy ****!!! Twice?
I agree w this guy also??
The only additional comment that I can add is that he is was and always will
be
as is his brothers were - totally irrelevant to my everyday life
IThey were all "cheap suits" playing games w the American democratic system
Ted was a cheap suit w a big mouth!!

Fred

Fred

Mark Bowen August 29th, 2009 09:26 AM

Ted Kennedy
 

"Injun Joe" wrote in message
...



Joe the Elder offers- hate to hear of anyones death--but at least it
got that monkey in a bright outfit jumping around and grabbing his
crotch off the scene for awhile !

If your words bwtray your Joe, I feel very sorry for ya.

Hope I am mistaken.
Op



Tom Littleton August 29th, 2009 12:38 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"Todd" wrote in message ...
John,

The woman was pregnant, probably with his kid, and
she did not drown. She suffocated. So, somehow,
the drunk managed to get out of the car underwater
and close the door behind himself so she would
suffocate instead of drown. I say "murder one".



and I say you are not too bright if you actually believe that. As to her
pregnancy, I haven't heard that mentioned, in any reasonable forum. For the
other part, please demonstrate for us all how one can open, and then shut, a
car door behind oneself while not allowing water inside.

Just my 2 cents.


you have a highly inflated sense of worth, based on reading this, Todd.

Tom



Tom Littleton August 29th, 2009 12:39 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...
If your words betray you Joe, I feel very sorry for ya.

Hope I am mistaken.
Op


edited the typos, and agree, wholeheartedly.
Tom



~^ beancounter ~^ August 29th, 2009 02:36 PM

Ted Kennedy
 


Ted Kennedy - Devout Catholic.....Every 6 years

~^ beancounter ~^ August 29th, 2009 03:46 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
He ignored facts and as President Reagan said, “facts are stubborn
things”. I remember in the early 1970s, Kennedy, a leading advocate
for amnesty for draft dodgers, took questions at a public event (at
least he had the honor to do this unlike current politicians). A man
got up, told him he’d lost his son in Vietnam and asked just how he
could be such an advocate for amnesty when his own brother, JFK,
started the Vietnam War and his brother’s appointees (MacNamara, Rusk,
Westmoreland) had so thoroughly botched it. Ted mumbled something
incoherent and called on someone else with a friendlier question.
Facts are stubborn things.



David LaCourse August 29th, 2009 04:45 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-29 07:38:21 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

and I say you are not too bright if you actually believe that. As to her
pregnancy, I haven't heard that mentioned, in any reasonable forum. For the
other part, please demonstrate for us all how one can open, and then shut, a
car door behind oneself while not allowing water inside.


I have heard rumors (and that's all they were) about her being
pregnant. As far as his leaving the car and closing the door, I don't
know. But I do know that she could have been saved. There was a
pocket of air in the car and she took shelter in it, breathing it until
the CO2 killed her. If he wasn't drunk he could have gotten help or
helped her himself. His abandonment of her, going to sleep (probably
to sober up), and not reporting it until it was too late is the part
that bothers me about his character. His "trial" was a travesty. He
should have gone to jail.

Dave





Lazarus Cooke August 29th, 2009 05:30 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

I feel that the US might be wise to take a tip out of Europe's book,
and deprive their Royal Families of political power.

The Bushes, Kennedies and Windsors are fine for scandal and fashion,
but politics is much better done by dull people who are given office
for their ability, rather than because of who their relatives happen to
be.

Lazarus

~^ beancounter ~^ August 29th, 2009 05:55 PM

Ted Kennedy
 


the coroner determined that Mary Jo lived 2 – 3 hours after the
crash.

Teddy told JOKES about it!

[email protected] August 29th, 2009 06:04 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:30:41 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:


I feel that the US might be wise to take a tip out of Europe's book,
and deprive their Royal Families of political power.

The Bushes, Kennedies and Windsors are fine for scandal and fashion,
but politics is much better done by dull people who are given office
for their ability, rather than because of who their relatives happen to
be.


Lazarus


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, maybe the Constitution can be changed and Gordon Brown and Silvio
Berlusconi can come over and run in 2012...why, shoot, within the first hundred
days, they oughta have everyone farting through silk...

Sheesh,
R
....and maybe if Liz and Phil moved to some small place...like Monaco...they
might be able to have _some_ influence over things, seeing as they have no
influence and are ignored by all at home...



~^ beancounter ~^ August 29th, 2009 06:21 PM

Ted Kennedy
 


Ted Kennedy tried to be a leader after 3 of his brothers died: One in
World War II, the favorite who was supposed to run for President. And
2 others were murdered by each a gunman’s bullet. Teddy, in the
meantime, had no mystical sword or was knight of the Round Table.
Teddy was spoiled slush of a drunk who thought only of himself. He
cheated in Harvard & was expelled, yet Joe Kennedy–with his wealth &
influence–had the spoiled Kennedy forced into the school when anyone
else would not have been allowed back. In a drunken stupor, he
murdered Mary Jo Kapachne in Chappaquiddick, yet again was not held
accountable for his actions. Anyone else would have gone to jail for
either murder or manslaughter. Teddy kept his senate seat warm all
these years as he became more of a liberal ideologue bent on Big
Government as 1 senator out of 100 instead of being President of the
United States when he ran in 1980. Senator Ted Kennedy cheated on his
wife, had ravaged young women with Senator Chris Dodd to make a
“waitress sandwich” while in a drunken haze, & lived a hypocritical
life such as when he pandered to the Environmentalists, yet did not
want the wind farms on Martha’s Vinyard. If Senator Edward Kennedy was
the lion of the senate, he was the Cowardly Lion from the Wizard of Oz
who was scared of his own shadow. In other words, Senator Ted Kennedy
was all bark & no bite (unless you were a hapless waitress or a woman
he found he wanted for the night). There is no Camelot with the
Kennedy’s; it was all about political power & domination of the
average American the Kennedy’s claimed to represent.

Lazarus Cooke August 29th, 2009 06:55 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
In article ,
wrote:

Gordon Brown and Silvio
Berlusconi can come over and run in 2012...


Oh they're both awful. But they got to where they are through their own
merits, not because of who Pop or Big Brother was. And neither of them
are ex-movie stars.

...and maybe if Liz and Phil moved to some small place...like Monaco...they
might be able to have _some_ influence over things, seeing as they have no
influence and are ignored by all at home...


But no-one WANTS Liz or Phil to have power. That's the point. Like
George Bush, they're not very bright (although Liz is much, much
brighter than her idiot son Charles). But they don't need to be.

It's only the US electorate that wants movie stars and Royalty to have
political power.

Lazarus

Tom Littleton August 29th, 2009 06:58 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009082911452075249-dplacourse@aolcom...
His "trial" was a travesty. He
should have gone to jail.


as you've read already, I agree with that part.
Tom



Tom Littleton August 29th, 2009 07:01 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:290820091855285945%kishloganbarblesshook@hotm ail.com...
Oh they're both awful. But they got to where they are through their own
merits, not because of who Pop or Big Brother was


can't speak to Gordie, but Silvio got to where he got with a lot of help
from some particularly unsavory folks..



It's only the US electorate that wants movie stars and Royalty to have
political power.


really? Who'd have known.......
Tom



David LaCourse August 29th, 2009 07:02 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-29 13:58:52 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:


"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009082911452075249-dplacourse@aolcom...
His "trial" was a travesty. He
should have gone to jail.


as you've read already, I agree with that part.
Tom


That's very large of you.

Dave




David LaCourse August 29th, 2009 07:11 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-29 14:03:54 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

The funeral is today, that was a 'celebration of
life' last night. If you cannot figure out Ted Kennedy's accomplishments, it
doesn't shock me.


Tom, there are those that have tried to politize his death by linking
it with the health bill. "Let's make Ted's dream come true," etc. etc.
Leaders in both houses have mentioned it.

Dave



David LaCourse August 29th, 2009 07:14 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-28 21:16:12 -0400, "Mark Bowen" said:

So speaks the living Jester! Good on ya Davey.


Lol. And I look upon you as a fool AND a joke while you're alive.

Davey



David LaCourse August 29th, 2009 07:20 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-27 17:47:02 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

well, I warned you, Keng.......

Anyhow, I am probably in agreement with Family-Outdoors(by the way, a name
would be nice, F-O.). I figured on a few demonstrations of blind ideology
overtaking any nuance or sense of dignity. The whole of the man's life is a
bizarre picture, but maybe Will is correct that the ledger tilts to the
positive. I don't know.
Rick speaks of conduct the man apparently got behind himself 10 years or so
ago. Certainly, he benefitted from undue priviledge in the handling of his
causing the death of another. Yet, politically, he became very savvy and a
positive legislative influence. He stuck to certain principles in his
legislative agenda with consistency. Time will tell where the verdict falls.
Tom


Tom, what do you think of his annulment of his marriage of 25 years?
Do you think you or I could have received such special favor from the
Catholic Church? Or would we have to divorce our spouces and deal with
it like everyone else. Like his trial, yet another travesty.

Dave




Tom Littleton August 29th, 2009 09:27 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009082914201711272-dplacourse@aolcom...
Tom, what do you think of his annulment of his marriage of 25 years?


I think the whole Catholic Church treatment of marriage, and the saleable
nature of annullments is amusing.

Do you think you or I could have received such special favor from the
Catholic Church?


the very same deal was offered to me, when I go remarried to Lisa. It came,
of course, with a clearly stated price tag. I told them to stuff it, and we
were married in the Methodist Church.

Thus, no, I see absolutely no special treatment for Ted Kennedy on that
matter. His price tag may have been steeper, but the principle(or lack of
same)remains. Its sort of like Oscar Wilde once said to a woman at a dinner
party(after getting her to agree to sleep with him for a large sum,but being
appalled when he suggested a meager one afterward), "We've established
clearly what you are, now we are merely haggling over price."

Tom



Giles August 30th, 2009 03:46 AM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Aug 28, 6:53*pm, wrote:

I have spent more time then I wished around Kennedys and their "friends"


Having heard some of their stories, this is easy enought to believe.

(a fair
amount of time), grew up and spent a fair amount of my adult life in Palm Beach,
spent time on Martha's Vineyard and have a number of friends who have done
similarly, including several that also have family homes there.


Ah, the Vineyard!.....those were some days! I recall a particularly
beautiful summer's evening down at the dock, aboard the Honey Fitz.
Rose, fairly well lubricated by the time she'd finished her third
Dewar's and diet Dr. Pepper (no ice, shaken, not stirred) was
reminiscing about your daddy ("that diminutive pickel boy" as she
fondly referred to him). She said, "There ain't nuthin' much wrong
with that boy that couldn't be fixed by someone grabbing him by the
ears and ****ing him in the mouth." Jack, flashing his famous grin,
replied, "Well, that isn't precisely true, Mumsie."

I mean this as
a straightforward question: "what personal insight do you have into the
Kennedys?"


A fair question. And far be it from me to answer for anyone else, but
it seems to me that if you were to offer some of your own anecdotes it
would help others immensely in their quest for a balanced view.

And there you are,


Ainna?

g.

riverman August 30th, 2009 12:41 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Aug 29, 4:01*am, Injun Joe wrote:
...at least it got that monkey in a bright outfit...


Absolutely horrible choice of words.
:-(

--riverman

David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 04:23 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 09:51:39 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

not from someone who supposedly has been
schooled in the social graces.


Yes, that old school of social graces. The one that tells Gerhke he's
a piece of ****? The same one that tells RW his daughter is a **** and
his wife is a pussy? The same alma mater that teaches how to pick
apart a sick old man just because he has negative fealings for
homosexuals? That good ole school of grace? Sure am glad I didn't go
to it.

I'll work on my log if you work on yours.

Dave



Tom Littleton August 30th, 2009 04:31 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009083011235816807-dplacourse@aolcom...
I'll work on my log if you work on yours.


ewwwww.
Tom



Ken Fortenberry August 30th, 2009 05:37 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
David LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry said:
not from someone who supposedly has been
schooled in the social graces.


Yes, that old school of social graces. The one that tells Gerhke he's a
piece of ****? The same one that tells RW his daughter is a **** and
his wife is a pussy? The same alma mater that teaches how to pick apart
a sick old man just because he has negative fealings for homosexuals?
That good ole school of grace? Sure am glad I didn't go to it.


Damn, rdean did all *that* ? I had no idea.

But I agree with him about Gehrke, that lying old fool was a
piece of **** on Usenet, especially when he got liquored up.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_9_] August 30th, 2009 05:51 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Aug 30, 6:37*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
David LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry said:
not from someone who supposedly has been
schooled in the social graces.


Yes, that old school of social graces. *The one that tells Gerhke he's a
piece of ****? *The same one that tells RW his daughter is a **** and
his wife is a pussy? *The same alma mater that teaches how to pick apart
a sick old man just because he has negative fealings for homosexuals? *
That good ole school of grace? *Sure am glad I didn't go to it.


Damn, rdean did all *that* ? I had no idea.

But I agree with him about Gehrke, that lying old fool was a
piece of **** on Usenet, especially when he got liquored up.

--
Ken Fortenberry


One difference is that you don't need the liquor, your rotten kidneys
probably wouldn't stand it. Take a deep breath Kenny boy, with any
luck you'll suffocate in your own ****storm, and that of the other
assholes here.

I'll make sure and turn the lights off when all you ****heads are
finished...................... Not long now..........

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...hing.fly/about


[email protected] August 30th, 2009 06:34 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:23:58 -0400, David LaCourse wrote:

On 2009-08-30 09:51:39 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

not from someone who supposedly has been
schooled in the social graces.


Yes, that old school of social graces. The one that tells Gerhke he's
a piece of ****? The same one that tells RW his daughter is a **** and
his wife is a pussy? The same alma mater that teaches how to pick
apart a sick old man just because he has negative fealings for
homosexuals? That good ole school of grace? Sure am glad I didn't go
to it.


That wouldn't be Friends' University of Central Kansas...University...?


I'll work on my log if you work on yours.


AHA! So THAT'S what brought der ol' caped logginschtuffer out of the ku klux
kloset this time...

HTH,
R

David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:07 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 12:51:21 -0400, Mike said:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...hing.fly/about


The all time posting champ, Wolfgang, with 16,786 posts? No wonder he
lost his mcw.edu address. snicker And, no, I had nothing to do with
it.

Davey, aka idiot, moron, killer, .............d;o)



David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:11 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 13:34:03 -0400, said:

AHA! So THAT'S what brought der ol' caped logginschtuffer out of the ku klux
kloset this time...


It wasn't addressed to you, Richard, but to the person who did those
dastardly deeds and complains about others who have done less, or
better yet, nothing of any import.



David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:15 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 11:50:33 -0400, Mike said:

You people are the worst group of assholes it has ever been my
misfortune to encounter, you are a disgrace in general, and to fly-
fishing in particular.


Yet here we are, along with you, sharing each others thoughts. The
only difference is that WE go fly fishing, Mike. You talk a great
game, even tie a great fly, but you never use it.

Sad, really.

Davey, aka idiot, moron, ****bag, ****head, and other nice monikers



Mike[_9_] August 30th, 2009 07:19 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Aug 30, 8:07*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-08-30 12:51:21 -0400, Mike said:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...hing.fly/about


The all time posting champ, Wolfgang, with *16,786 posts? *No wonder he
lost his mcw.edu address. *snicker *And, no, I had nothing to do with
it.

Davey, aka idiot, moron, killer, .............d;o)


But most of all, dumbo............

How do you know he "lost" his mcw.edu address?

Answer = You almost certainly don't, but it is another way to cast a
slur even if you know **** all, ( and there can be little doubt that
you know very close to ****-all about just about everything).

You'll never learn LaCourse. you are simply too stupid. In a lot of
cases, being stupid is at least as bad as being evil.

Have a good snicker, you sad ****er...............

David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:22 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 12:12:15 -0400, Mike said:

Also, LaCourse's comment on a "sick old man with negative....yaddah
yaddah yaddah........" was directed at Kennedy?


Uh, you need some remedial training, Mike. That entire post was about
Fortenberry's hypocrisy, not Kennedy. Here is the quote: "The same
alma mater that teaches how to pick apart a sick old man just because
he has negative fealings for homosexuals?" Maybe that should read,
"feelings about homosexuals".




David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:25 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 12:23:49 -0400, said:

Drambuie and sweet vermouth,


It's DRY vermouth. Gads, only people from Norleans would drink sweet vermouth.
shudder



David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 07:32 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 14:15:19 -0400, David LaCourse said:

Davey, aka idiot, moron, ****bag, ****head, and other nice monikers


Oooops. Forgot Dumbo. Got a t-shirt for that one, thankyouverymuchsir.

Dave, aka Dumbo



Mike[_9_] August 30th, 2009 07:33 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Aug 30, 8:15*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-08-30 11:50:33 -0400, Mike said:

You people are the worst group of assholes it has ever been my
misfortune to encounter, you are a disgrace in general, and to fly-
fishing in particular.


Yet here we are, along with you, sharing each others thoughts. *The
only difference is that WE go fly fishing, Mike. *You talk a great
game, even tie a great fly, but you never use it.

Sad, really.

Davey, aka idiot, moron, ****bag, ****head, and other nice monikers


Here we go again..........

LaCourse, you know virtually nothing about me, or what I do, you
simply invent whatever suits you, and you do the same to others. There
is absolutely no point in even contradicting you or proving you wrong,
you are simply too stupid to grasp it.

People call you a moron because you ARE a ****ing moron, and all the
other epithets fit as well.

Your "thoughts", such as they are, are of no interest whatever to me,
and doubtless not to the majority of others who chance to read them,
even when they are written in comprehensible English they are
invariably the abstruse ramblings, boastings, and bull****, of an
ageing idiot desperate to impress somebody.

You don't impress me LaCourse, or anybody else either as far as I can
see, you are merely a pathetic stupid old man, basically not worth the
breath or other effort required to curse you and most certainly not
worth conversing with.

[email protected] August 30th, 2009 07:36 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:11:03 -0400, David LaCourse wrote:

On 2009-08-30 13:34:03 -0400, said:

AHA! So THAT'S what brought der ol' caped logginschtuffer out of the ku klux
kloset this time...


It wasn't addressed to you, Richard, but to the person who did those
dastardly deeds and complains about others who have done less, or
better yet, nothing of any import.


Um...OK?

And if it makes you feel any better, that was referring to you...well, wait -
let's see - in the Navy, likes drag queen beverages, wears overpriced rubber
pants, and drives a high school cheerleader's car...OK, so maybe you ARE a bit
of a logginschtuffer - do you think it's fun to stay at the - bomp-bomp-bomp - Y
- M - C - A...?

HTH,
R




David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 08:00 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 14:33:21 -0400, Mike said:

most certainly not
worth conversing with.


sigh



David LaCourse August 30th, 2009 09:23 PM

Ted Kennedy
 
On 2009-08-30 15:46:57 -0400, said:

Ah...well, that makes all the difference in the world...why, shoot, it
practically makes it something an almost-masculine drag queen would drink...


Actually, the only person I know who drinks it is the woman who
invented it. I don't know any drag queens, never seen one, so I'll
have to take your expert observation as to what they would drink. Are
you in the habit of buying drag queens drinks? Is that a N'orlins
thingy?



Tom Littleton August 30th, 2009 10:09 PM

Ted Kennedy
 

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
news:2009083016231477923-dplacourse@aolcom...
Actually, the only person I know who drinks it is the woman who invented
it.


sort of a testament to the taste. Each to their owng!
Tom




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