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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:



Hm.....that leaves required or prohibited......do we get to pick?
:)


sure...but, i've heard if you keep pickin at it, it'll never heal. your
and becky's presence will be present enough...

jeff

becky is coming? how ...fascinating....

yfitp
wayno

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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:



Hm.....that leaves required or prohibited......do we get to pick?
:)


sure...but, i've heard if you keep pickin at it, it'll never heal.

Which is important......or not......depending on who's it is.

your
and becky's presence will be present enough...

She will be pleased (if not greatly surprised) by the salutary effect her
gentle ministrations have had on my social standing. :)

Wolfgang
ouch....what??!! :(

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
m...


for you, my friend, dante' would have described an *eigth* circle of
hell...

Yeah, and it would be populated entirely by jerks! Hah!

Wolfgang
c'mon seven.......lucky seven!

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Jeff Miller" wrote

4. to talk about things, no doubt about it, words is what we need.
however, selecting the precise words that we need to communicate
effectively requires more than just talking in the unique words we know
from intense study or effort, or more than just assuming that the latin
names of a particular taxonomy have common meaning to a fishing
audience. i suspect most fly fisher-men or -women know more about a
light cahill style fly than they do about a stenacron canadense, don't
you?


i just thought that you ought to be aware that i will print out the
paragraph, above, in order to read it at public gatherings from now until we
perish, with a hope to somehow equalize the anguish that you brought to me
by telling pj about my little story of he and i and the paraleptophebias on
snowbird creek.

for you, my friend, dante' would have described an *eigth* circle of
hell...

:)


....please use proper inflection at each reading. i find even the
ridiculous can be accepted by an audience when given the correct
inflection. reading the above has nearly sobered me... i must take my
leave immediately.

jeff ...and, dammit, you're in g'boro. i'm here 24/7. unless you're
gonna be available on a more regular basis in the flesh to mitigate and
share the macabre h. bosch show of pj-land, you need to cut me some
slack. :)

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:43:50 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


(Greatly snipped to make a slightly off thread point)

I think that to a large extent the demographics and needs of "a group of
fishermen" varies across different parts of the country

Many herbalists are divided on the question of latin names. Some are
convinced when they ask about a particular herb and find out that
there are several herbs with the same common name. Some of them
useless, some even dangerous. There would be quite a few Asian
immigrants who'd be either in better health or alive today if they'd
been informed enough to understand that. Stuff from one country to
another that looks the same may feed you in one country and harm you
in another. Stuff with the same name, same thing.

If you're going to be in only one part of one country and do whatever
in that part only with others who live there, common names are fine.
But if you're going to eat stuff, well...

Now we know the fish don't know the latin names, so all the above is
moot, isn't it?

But fishermen (being humans and, therefore sapient (it's in the latin
name, innit?)) can observe the local insectivorous fauna and then
their flys and chose. Or ask whoever lured them to that clave to
point things out. And we're not going to eat the flies, so the worst
that will happen is we'll be on a lake or a stream and just have the
fresh air and scenery and the pleasure of being there.

BTW, gotta love that Indian Joe method.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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"Jeff Miller" wrote

larry - since i think most of your comments were directed at or in
response to my rant, let me top post for convenience and say the
following:



I don't know what "top post" means .... I just hate it when people use fancy
pancy UsenetSpeak instead of simpler language ... why do you guys do that?
..... just to make us newbies feel bad? ;-)



6. does "understanding the bugs" require a knowledge of latin names?
again, if i see a yellow bug flying about, i'll try to match it in size
and color and shape.


Ok, since you are 3000 miles away and IF you promise to NOT tell anyone I
said this. I do carry and use a seine, small magnifier, and notepad for
sketches and notes when I fish and I have keyed a few bugs out, but, ......
shhhh, quiet now ...... I don't really use much Latin in my chats with
other fishermen, never, if a consistently used common name such as Pale
Morning Dun is available.

To be honest, the main reason for most of my posts in this thread is
boredom. I wrote up my "goodbye ROFF" post about 4 months ago but like TV
I find I keep turning it on, out of habit, only to find rerurns of
"Everybody Loves Raymond" ..i.e. endlessly repeating examples of material
that was third rate the first time I saw it. Again, like TV, I find
myself more and more ****ed at myself each time I turn it on ... "damn, you
really do need to find something to do" ... unlike TV I can somewhat change
the channel to my own 3rd rate material, fun for a time or two, but already
losing appeal........
I beat a 1 1/2 pack a day straight Camels smoking habit and it's honestly a
miracle I'm still alive, I used to be such an un-recovering alcoholic, but
I'm sober about 20 years .... I do know how to quit, but it's damn hard
unless you change environment and get away from your "triggers" ....I'm
really looking forward to my trip to Idaho for the summer where temptation
won't be with me
....getting away from computers is a great reason to fish


. i hope to fish with or near you one of these days.

no, trust me, you don't I'm, at best, an average FFer and you won't learn
more than how to get hooks out of ears and hats from me.

Plus, I'm a son of a bitch and very hard to get along with

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Larry L wrote:

I beat a 1 1/2 pack a day straight Camels smoking habit and it's honestly a
miracle I'm still alive, I used to be such an un-recovering alcoholic, but
I'm sober about 20 years .... I do know how to quit, but it's damn hard
unless you change environment and get away from your "triggers" ....I'm
really looking forward to my trip to Idaho for the summer where temptation
won't be with me

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! Tobacco and alcohol are pretty cheap in Idaho, and
nearly universally available, except for the hard stuff on Sunday or
election day, and possibly except for some FLDS enclaves. Gambling is
available just across the Nevada border. TV reception can be a problem
in the mountains, unless you have a clear view of the southern sky. :-)

If you are leaving the temptations behind, they must be caused the
boredom of your everyday life. That must suck. Believe me, Larry, I know
how it is. I've been there, and I still occasionally visit that place.
I'm being completely serious right now.

I gather that you spent most of your life training field dogs. Not so?
Do you have any dogs now? Do you, for example, take a well-trained dog
or two along to Idaho? (A very dog-friendly state, BTW.) Are you so sick
of making your living from them that you don't want anything more to do
with them? Just curious. If it's none of my business, just tell me to
**** off.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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rw wrote in message ...
Larry L wrote:

I beat a 1 1/2 pack a day straight Camels smoking habit and it's honestly
a
miracle I'm still alive, I used to be such an un-recovering alcoholic,
but
I'm sober about 20 years .... I do know how to quit, but it's damn hard
unless you change environment and get away from your "triggers" ....I'm
really looking forward to my trip to Idaho for the summer where
temptation
won't be with me

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! Tobacco and alcohol are pretty cheap in Idaho, and
nearly universally available, except for the hard stuff on Sunday or
election day, and possibly except for some FLDS enclaves. Gambling is
available just across the Nevada border. TV reception can be a problem
in the mountains, unless you have a clear view of the southern sky. :-)

If you are leaving the temptations behind, they must be caused the
boredom of your everyday life. That must suck. Believe me, Larry, I know
how it is. I've been there, and I still occasionally visit that place.
I'm being completely serious right now.

I gather that you spent most of your life training field dogs. Not so?
Do you have any dogs now? Do you, for example, take a well-trained dog
or two along to Idaho? (A very dog-friendly state, BTW.) Are you so sick
of making your living from them that you don't want anything more to do
with them? Just curious. If it's none of my business, just tell me to
**** off.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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rw wrote

.. If it's none of my business, just tell me to
**** off.

can I? huh, can i?

:)

wayno

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Wayne Harrison wrote:
rw wrote

. If it's none of my business, just tell me to

**** off.


can I? huh, can i?

:)

**** off.

:-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! Tobacco and alcohol are pretty cheap in Idaho, and
nearly universally available,


maybe you misunderstood? I'm not worried about the temptations of tobacco
and alcohol .... I've had those under control for many years

I just feel that this fricken puter is sucking up too much life and giving
nearly nothing back to justify the time lost .... that is the thing I'm
eager to leave behind ... hopefully after a few months without a puter the
bad habit I've developed of "boards and roffs" will be broken and never
returned to

I still train a few dogs in the Sept to May months ... I own a couple ( for
sale $3500 each ), just bought a new one, sight unseen, last night .... I
train them and sell them ... they ain't my buddies

god, I logged on again
....I'm Larry and I'm a bored boardaholic

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"Larry L" wrote...
snip
I just feel that this fricken puter is sucking up too much life and giving
nearly nothing back to justify the time lost .... that is the thing I'm
eager to leave behind ... hopefully after a few months without a puter the
bad habit I've developed of "boards and roffs" will be broken and never
returned to

I don't get it. If ROFF brings no enjoyment to your life, why in the hell would
you still be here? There's obviously some redeeming value or you wouldn't be
reading this now.

.. . . and don't the door hit you. . .
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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Larry L wrote:
"rw" wrote


HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! Tobacco and alcohol are pretty cheap in Idaho, and
nearly universally available,



maybe you misunderstood? I'm not worried about the temptations of tobacco
and alcohol .... I've had those under control for many years

I just feel that this fricken puter is sucking up too much life and giving
nearly nothing back to justify the time lost .... that is the thing I'm
eager to leave behind ... hopefully after a few months without a puter the
bad habit I've developed of "boards and roffs" will be broken and never
returned to

We have the Internet in Idaho, too.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Larry L wrote:


no, trust me, you don't I'm, at best, an average FFer and you won't learn
more than how to get hooks out of ears and hats from me.

Plus, I'm a son of a bitch and very hard to get along with

so...you're really just about like the rest of us, eh?

i'm off for a weekend in the mountains chasin trout...it'll be good to
get away.

jeff (hell, i fish regularly with pj...the bar's already set a bit high
for your bad side to be troubling me much. g)

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