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"Frank Reid" wrote in message ... Yeah, it dumped here in Plymouth, also. Just saw a food channel show on Plymouth gin. Do try a bottle or two and give us the inside scooby, would you old chap? According to the show, there is Ginever gin, London Dry and Plymouth. There is only one Plymouth distillary left, so all of that latter comes out of that place. Well, I didn't know that. One gin martini, extremely dry, coming up. --riverman (buzzed, not stirred....) |
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In article , riverman
writes "Tim J." wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote... well, if they are dumb questions, then count me among the stupid, (oh, wait, forty already did g), This is a prime example of trolling. . . not that's there's anything wrong with that. -- TL, Tim (yeah, plagiarism - so what?) ------------------------ Aww, comon Tim. Let me get a few more answers before you derail the thread!! :-( --riverman (BTW, I don't think that was trolling as much as it was baiting.) Hi Myron, Try stuffing them with absorbent paper kitchen roll or newspaper. I wouldn't try to force the drying with your hair dryer it could cause the leather to crack. Our Welsh water does persist eh? :-) We've had some serious rain overnight, the levels must be better than last week. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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Yeah, it dumped here in Plymouth, also.
Just saw a food channel show on Plymouth gin. Do try a bottle or two and give us the inside scooby, would you old chap? According to the show, there is Ginever gin, London Dry and Plymouth. There is only one Plymouth distillary left, so all of that latter comes out of that place. -- Frank Reid Reverse Email to reply |
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article , riverman writes D'oH. I just set it on low, put the boots on it, and went to bed. Next morning, they were dry as a bone. Problem solved :-) I see your "Homerism". ...and raise you two. --riverman |
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writes D'oH. I just set it on low, put the boots on it, and went to bed. Next morning, they were dry as a bone. Problem solved :-) I see your "Homerism". -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:31:33 +0200, "riverman" wrote: ..and raise you two. OK, call. "I used to rock 'n roll all night and party everyday. Then it was every other day. Now I'm lucky if I can find half an hour a week in which to get funky." "And how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home wine making course, and I forgot how to drive?" "Ahhh ... the old fishing hole, so peaceful and relaxing. Doesn't even matter if I catch a single fish ... ahhh. Come on you stupid fish, take the bait! Don't make me come down there!" "This is a place for learning, not a house of ... hearing about things." Homer Simpson --riverman |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:31:33 +0200, "riverman" wrote:
..and raise you two. OK, call. "I used to rock 'n roll all night and party everyday. Then it was every other day. Now I'm lucky if I can find half an hour a week in which to get funky." "And how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home wine making course, and I forgot how to drive?" Homer Simpson -- Charlie... |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:42:41 +0200, "riverman" wrote:
"Kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential murderers." "I have feelings too - like 'My stomach hurts' or 'I'm going crazy!'" Homer Simpson -- Charlie... |
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wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:42:41 +0200, "riverman" wrote: "Kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential murderers." "I have feelings too - like 'My stomach hurts' or 'I'm going crazy!'" Homer Simpson How about we just use the random Homer quote generator at http://smacie.com/randomizer/simpsons/homer.html Allen |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:42:41 +0200, "riverman" wrote: "Kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential murderers." "I have feelings too - like 'My stomach hurts' or 'I'm going crazy!'" Homer Simpson -- Charlie... IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never heard of him. |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote: IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never heard of him. He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except with some creative talent behind him. g -- Charlie... |
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wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh" wrote: IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never heard of him. He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except with some creative talent behind him. g The best intro is at www.thesimpsons.com hmmm flash media Allen |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh" wrote: IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never heard of him. He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except with some creative talent behind him. g The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? Wolfgang "ooh, i love your magazine. especially the 'enrich your word power' section. i think it's really...really...really good." |
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? I was hoping someone would clarify that. Clarify what? Get it? See above. OK, I'll bite. By 'formulaic', do you mean that it follows accepted and familiar structures of jokes? If so, then that was a rather tautological statement: if it DIDN'T follow the structure of a joke, it wouldn't be funny, hence it wouldn't be successful. You merely said "Its funny because its funny." The other option for what you meant that I can visualize is that, by 'formulaic', you meant 'proscribed'. That they have a set of well-defined types of statements that Homer will make, and as such, we are conditioned to expect those statements, and hence, we 'get it' because it fits what we are expecting. --riverman |
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"riverman" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? I was hoping someone would clarify that. Clarify what? Get it? See above. OK, I'll bite. By 'formulaic', do you mean that it follows accepted and familiar structures of jokes? If so, then that was a rather tautological statement: if it DIDN'T follow the structure of a joke, it wouldn't be funny, hence it wouldn't be successful. You merely said "Its funny because its funny." The other option for what you meant that I can visualize is that, by 'formulaic', you meant 'proscribed'. That they have a set of well-defined types of statements that Homer will make, and as such, we are conditioned to expect those statements, and hence, we 'get it' because it fits what we are expecting. On further thought, you might have meant something like: "Its funny, won't they?" --riverman (Who thinks he finally gets it, aren't we?) |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:
The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? I was hoping someone would clarify that. Get it? -- Charlie... |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? I was hoping someone would clarify that. Clarify what? Get it? See above. Wolfgang who, generous to a fault, is willing to proceed on the assumption that there IS a point........until proved wrong. |
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"riverman" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it? I was hoping someone would clarify that. Clarify what? Get it? See above. OK, I'll bite. By 'formulaic', do you mean that it follows accepted and familiar structures of jokes? Among other things, yes. If so, then that was a rather tautological statement: if it DIDN'T follow the structure of a joke, it wouldn't be funny, hence it wouldn't be successful. You merely said "Its funny because its funny." An observation that serious students of humor always bump up against.......and much sooner than they expect. Stevie thinks that watching someone fall down and break a pelvis or a vertebra is funny. It's not. Fictional depictions of such an event CAN be funny.....or not. In either case, a thorough examination of why it strikes someone as funny inevitably results in a lot of head scratching. In the one case, most people would agree that it's pathological, but this brings no one any closer to an understanding of why it' perceived as funny. In the other, the only real difference is the absence of pathology.....everything else is equally inscrutable. Or, to put it another way......yeah. The other option "An" other option. for what you meant that I can visualize is that, by 'formulaic', you meant 'proscribed'. I suspect you meant prEscribed. Not the same thing at all. Quite the contrary. That they have a set of well-defined types of statements that Homer will make, and as such, we are conditioned to expect those statements, and hence, we 'get it' because it fits what we are expecting. Yep. But, what makes it all delicious is a certain limited randomness. What makes Homie delightful is that his responses to people and situations are entirely predictable, but only within the confines of a limited number of sets. The response from a particular set will never surprise us.....but we have a lot of fun trying to anticipate which set will come to bear on a particular situation. Will it be "Mmmmmmm.....cyyyaniiiide!", or a shriek? Of course, the same can also be said for all of the other regular characters......that's what makes them work......that's what makes them recognizable.....that's what makes them human. The people who write "The Simpsons" clearly understand their audience, and they have hit on a formula that works. For example, they can.....and routinely DO.....take gratuitous shots at "'personality's" purely for humorous effect and, by and large, it works. One of the reasons it works is that one never gets the impression that the shots are inspired by an overwhelming need to demonstrate that they are funnier, brighter, or in some other way superior to other writers or the members of their audience. In short, they treat their audience like adults. Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Wolfgang |
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it's teevee joe... as a man of letters and a genuine english scholar,
you would not be expected to know about homer. it aint the illyad, but hs'll do for an allegory or a lesson on the quick.... Joe McIntosh wrote: "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:42:41 +0200, "riverman" wrote: "Kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential murderers." "I have feelings too - like 'My stomach hurts' or 'I'm going crazy!'" Homer Simpson -- Charlie... IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never heard of him. |
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Wolfgang wrote:
snip In short, ... Gawd, wouldn't THAT be a blessing. Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a minute. When it finally dawns on you that the last two words are as stupid as they are superfluous you'll have learned a lesson. Or not, I don't claim to be a GOOD teacher. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. Wolfgang wrote: snip In short, ... Gawd, wouldn't THAT be a blessing. Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a minute. When it finally dawns on you that the last two words are as stupid as they are superfluous you'll have learned a lesson. Or not, I don't claim to be a GOOD teacher. Well, you're never going to get any better at it if you don't try. So, go ahead........teach us why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. Wolfgang gawd? :) |
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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message news:SrpCc.134$mN3.83@lakeread06... it's teevee joe... as a man of letters and a genuine english scholar, you would not be expected to know about homer. it aint the illyad, but hs'll do for an allegory or a lesson on the quick.... Oh brother! I got a shiny new nickel.......and a lucrative film deal......says some enterprising young liberal arts scholar can easily milk a thesis out of a connection between Homie and an epic journey of self discovery. Wolfgang |
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"Look at those morons! I paid my taxes a year ago."
"Internet! Is that thing still around?" "When will I learn? The answer to life's problems isn't at the bottom of a bottle, they are on TV." "No offense Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz." "Kill my boss? Do I dare live out the American dream?" "I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES" "I hope I didn't brain my damage." "All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer." |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Wolfgang wrote: Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a minute. ... ... So, go ahead........teach us why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. I erred. Think about that sentence for a month. I doubt that you'll learn anything, but then I never claimed to be a GOOD teacher. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Tim J." wrote in message ... "riverman" wrote... "Tim J." wrote... How does the building get its heat/hot water? If there's any kind of flame involved, make friends with the building attendant and put them in the same room for a day (not too close - just in the same room.) These rooms generally have zero humidity and things dry fairly quickly. Excellent suggestion. I could put them on top of the dryer when I do my laundry tomorrow! Considering the drier's job is to remove the water from clothes and throw it into the air, you'll probably find it to be a very humid environment. Assuming the dryer is ventilated properly, wouldn't the wet air go outside? Further then, the only real increase in drying capacity of the air outside the dryer would only come from any excess heat generated from the dryer affecting the air outside the dryer, no? |
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Wolfgang wrote: "Jeff Miller" wrote in message news:SrpCc.134$mN3.83@lakeread06... it's teevee joe... as a man of letters and a genuine english scholar, you would not be expected to know about homer. it aint the illyad, but hs'll do for an allegory or a lesson on the quick.... Oh brother! where art thou... country homereroticism... set to a catchy tune. g odyssey, with the accent on odd. aplenty of shiny nickels to be had. I got a shiny new nickel.......and a lucrative film deal......says some enterprising young liberal arts scholar can easily milk a thesis out of a connection between Homie and an epic journey of self discovery. recently read the philosophic squaking of a Ph.D. concerning those stupid matrix films, so i have no doubt the simpsons could be fodder for several dissertations and a movie. just hope the music is good. jeff (lash me to the mast, me mateys, whilst i await the sirens' song) Wolfgang |
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
Oh brother! I got a shiny new nickel.......and a lucrative film deal......says some enterprising young liberal arts scholar can easily milk a thesis out of a connection between Homie and an epic journey of self discovery. One school seems well on its way: http://www.doheth.co.uk/articles/philosophy.shtml Chuck Vance (who's certainly seen sillier premises for a thesis) |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Wolfgang wrote: Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a minute. ... ... So, go ahead........teach us why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. I erred. No ****. Think about that sentence for a month. I doubt that you'll learn anything, but then I never claimed to be a GOOD teacher. Nevertheless, go ahead and give us your thoughts on why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. I'm sure everyone here is just fascinated. Wolfgang and, yes, they ARE watching. :) |
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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message news:FkzCc.2291$mN3.1440@lakeread06... Wolfgang wrote: "Jeff Miller" wrote in message news:SrpCc.134$mN3.83@lakeread06... it's teevee joe... as a man of letters and a genuine english scholar, you would not be expected to know about homer. it aint the illyad, but hs'll do for an allegory or a lesson on the quick.... Oh brother! where art thou... country homereroticism... set to a catchy tune. g odyssey, with the accent on odd. aplenty of shiny nickels to be had. I got a shiny new nickel.......and a lucrative film deal......says some enterprising young liberal arts scholar can easily milk a thesis out of a connection between Homie and an epic journey of self discovery. recently read the philosophic squaking of a Ph.D. concerning those stupid matrix films, I won't ask why.......presumably, you had a significant load of bad karma to work off......I won't ask why. :) so i have no doubt the simpsons could be fodder for several dissertations and a movie. just hope the music is good. I'd be much surprised to learn that no one has yet gotten at least a master's out of "The Simpsons". Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Wolfgang wrote: Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a month. I doubt that you'll learn anything, but then I never claimed to be a GOOD teacher. Nevertheless, go ahead and give us your thoughts on why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. I'm sure everyone here is just fascinated. Nonsense. Anyone who is even remotely interested has figured it out long ago. You may eventually figure it out yourself, but it would help if you weren't dictionary averse. (That was a HINT.) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"William Claspy" wrote in message ... On 6/24/04 10:27 AM, in article , "Wolfgang" wrote: so i have no doubt the simpsons could be fodder for several dissertations and a movie. just hope the music is good. I'd be much surprised to learn that no one has yet gotten at least a master's out of "The Simpsons". Why oh why do you bait me so? Cuz you got WAY too much time on your hands! A quick trip through the database leads me to believe that at least nine such theses have been written. I decline to read them however, most especially "From Barthes to Bart Simpson", but with the possible exception of "The Gospel According to Bart." I got a shiny new nickel says you will read at least two of them......before the week is out. It might interest you to know that an honest job probably wouldn't leave time for such self-flagellant frippery. :) Wolfgang who got the latest "tas" from his dealer on tuesday.......but hasn't had time to sample it yet. thanks for the head's up. |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Wolfgang wrote: Not surprisingly, those who give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind. Think about that sentence for a month. I doubt that you'll learn anything, but then I never claimed to be a GOOD teacher. Nevertheless, go ahead and give us your thoughts on why those last two words were stupid and superfluous. I'm sure everyone here is just fascinated. Nonsense. Anyone who is even remotely interested has figured it out long ago. Maybe so, but what the hell......go ahead and give it a shot anyway. At the very least, it's a chance for you to demonstrate that just this once you actually have some idea of what you're talking about. As the matter stands now, there probably aren't many readers here who fail to see what you've done to yourself......again......and are continuing to do in what we all know is a futile attempt to divert attention from it. So, go on.......what have you got to lose? You may eventually figure it out yourself, No, I don't think so. but it would help if you weren't dictionary averse. How many people in this group would you guess are immune to the humor inherent in a self-styled writer who reads poorly? :) (That was a HINT.) And as soon as someone explains to you what it hinted AT, you be sure to let us know........o.k.? Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: You may eventually figure it out yourself, No, I don't think so. Yeah, you're probably right. How many people in this group would you guess are immune to the humor inherent in a self-styled writer who reads poorly? :) Now THAT'S funny. (That was a HINT.) And as soon as someone explains to you what it hinted AT, you be sure to let us know........o.k.? Look up the following words: reciprocate redundancy prolixity If you STILL can't figure it out, I guess we'll have to conclude that I'm not a GOOD teacher. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: You may eventually figure it out yourself, No, I don't think so. Yeah, you're probably right. Oh, there's no doubt about it. How many people in this group would you guess are immune to the humor inherent in a self-styled writer who reads poorly? :) Now THAT'S funny. Yeah, that's what I said. (That was a HINT.) And as soon as someone explains to you what it hinted AT, you be sure to let us know........o.k.? Look up the following words: reciprocate redundancy prolixity Why? If you STILL can't figure it out, Figure what out? I guess we'll have to conclude that I'm not a GOOD teacher. We agreed some time ago that you aren't a good teacher. However, I'm reasonably certain that I'm not the only reader here who would like to know why you think the words "in kind" as I used them earlier in this exchange were stupid and superfluous. Go ahead, give it shot. Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: I guess we'll have to conclude that I'm not a GOOD teacher. We agreed some time ago that you aren't a good teacher. Well, there's gratitude for you. Try to give a poor boy a clue, for FREE, and this is the thanks I get. However, I'm reasonably certain that I'm not the only reader here who would like to know why you think the words "in kind" as I used them earlier in this exchange were stupid and superfluous. Because the last two words are as stupid as they are superfluous. Duh. The boy just WILL not learn. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: I guess we'll have to conclude that I'm not a GOOD teacher. We agreed some time ago that you aren't a good teacher. Well, there's gratitude for you. Try to give a poor boy a clue, for FREE, and this is the thanks I get. A clue to what? However, I'm reasonably certain that I'm not the only reader here who would like to know why you think the words "in kind" as I used them earlier in this exchange were stupid and superfluous. Because the last two words are as stupid as they are superfluous. Duh. So, the words "in kind" are stupid and superfluous because they are stupid and superfluous? And you're sure that the audience is just going to LOVE that, right? The boy just WILL not learn. That's got a familiar ring to it. Any idea who the author is? Wolfgang |
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So, the words "in kind" are stupid and superfluous because they are stupid and superfluous? You could have a future in politics. Think about it. And you're sure that the audience is just going to LOVE that, right? Well, yeah. If it causes you to squirm all over your meniscus there's a huge audience who will be absolutely delighted. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: So, the words "in kind" are stupid and superfluous because they are stupid and superfluous? You could have a future in politics. I'm not much interested in politics. You, on the other hand, might want to look into that......you sure as hell aren't going to make it in comedy.......or as a writer, for that matter......but then, you've already known that for quite some time now, haven't you. :) Think about it. Thanks, I'll pass And you're sure that the audience is just going to LOVE that, right? Well, yeah. If it causes you to squirm all over your meniscus there's a huge audience who will be absolutely delighted. Doubtless. Oh, by the way, something seems to be wrong with usenet. I write stuff and it disappears somewhere in transmission. I distinctly remember asking who you stole the line, "The boy just WILL not learn." from, and there's no sign of it anywhere above. I'd appreciate an answer. And, while you're at it, maybe you could tell us all why the words "in kind" as I used them earlier were stupid and superfluous. Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang wrote:
... I distinctly remember asking who you stole the line, "The boy just WILL not learn." from, and there's no sign of it anywhere above. I'd appreciate an answer. I borrowed it from you, silly. So sue me. And, while you're at it, maybe you could tell us all why the words "in kind" as I used them earlier were stupid and superfluous. You did look those words up in the dictionary, right ? I'm afraid that's about all I can do for you, I tried and tried and tried, but I guess I'm not a GOOD teacher. (I stole "GOOD teacher" too, so sue me. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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